To think that the dressing gown was one step too far?

[Imdunfer]

In a petrol station buying a coffee at nine thirty in the morning. Looking down realised that the young woman behind me was wearing obvious pyjamas. And slippers. Then looking up to see a fluffy cream dressing gown.

I can't decide if it matters. I was brought up to believe that it shows a complete lack of self respect, and a lack of respect for anyone else, but does it, these days?

YABU. Perfectly normal wear for filling up your car.

YANBU. What is the world coming to that anyone thinks that's reasonable.

Why is the dressing gown over the pyjamas worse than pyjamas alone?
I couldn't care less tbh what others wear to fill up their car. As long as they're not showing their genitals.

Whenever I see it I feel sorry for them that they have such low self respect/self esteem and wonder what is going on with their mental health.

No matter how much anyone might try to justify it, there is never a positive reason why someone is out in their dressing gown/pjs and it sadly goes much deeper than just having low standards.

Agree.

It's not so much declining standards as a decline in giving a shit about anything at all, especially what others think or feel - a kind of nihilism.

This is the background to the rise of Reform - from both ends, weirdly. On the one hand, the average Reform voter is 'me first, fuck you if you don't like it.' And at the other end, they're Disgusted of Bournemouth about 'Britishness'.

Out of their bra I can just about understand, I regularly kept my cash in my bra on a night out cica 2008 but knickers is grotty 🤢

Only a certain type of people do that.....

Lets hope those are "going out" pyjamas and the same pair won't be worn back to bed later on. Grim.

The travellers near us are very well to do and wouldn't be seen dead out in public in the pjs. Designer gear and expensive cars all round. Pyjamas in the local tesco here tends to be young women who just don't care.

But all these things are dependent on history/etiquette/geography. For example living in oz it is completely normal for people to walk around with no shoes on/bikini with towel on bottom/ wet and go into supermarkets/cafes. No one would batter an eyelid. In my local very fancy UK spa hotel that I’m a member of day guest get a big fluffy dressing gown and slippers to mooch in all day and eat lunch and dinner and hang out by the pool area. Why can’t people see that these social contructs are just made up! ‘Disgusting’. ‘Grim’ ‘unwashed’ ‘signs of mental illness/low self-esteem’ etc. Brits are so uptight and so bloody snobby it’s infuriating. If it was suddenly that having a dressing gown out was the epitome of chic and semblance of wealth you’d all be doing it! Like the day guests at our pool having a spa day - those dressing gowns symbolise something. ‘I’m a bit special today’. Good on em I say! And as for those saying it means low esteem - I’d argue the complete opposite. Being clean but wearing your comfies and not subscribing to societal pressure is top tier self esteem in my book.

I have occasionally gone to the local shop in PJs - however , by PJs I mean maybe I’ve had some PJs but I have put my big coat or hoodie on my top half and have worn my trainers - but this has only ever been in a situation where I may be about to cook breakfast and realise I’m out of something essential . I wouldn’t ever wear my dressing gown or slippers . I have seen a few people lately in supermarkets in full PJs and dressing gowns and I could never.

@Imdunfer
As my son would say
"There are levels mum
And not everyone's going to be up to yours"
But no matter what DS says
I've got mine and will continue to do so

This is the thing - the advent of loungewear, comfy as it is, can sometimes look like nightwear ! I personally don't like seeing it when worn outside - like non-sportspeople in tracksuit bottoms and leggings - it may be comfortable but I don't want to see everyone's lumps and bumps ! But each to their own I guess - and I'm old-school, born in the late 50s, so I just grin (grimace) and bear it, haha !

I think it’s both a bit pathetic and also doesn’t really affect me. I just think it’s sad if someone can’t get dressed to leave the house. What a shit life with no pride.

They’re a separate ethnic group on the census, yes, counted as a distinct ethnic group by the government since 2017, and DNA research suggests that while they share the same genetic origins as the settled population, they started to diverge from the settled population in the 1600s via endogamy.

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even in David Jones in Sydney

Brits also wear robes around a spa. The point of a spa is that you’re all scrubbed and dipped and polished and therefore clean and you know the robes were recently washed. Equally wearing a bikini into a beachside caf on a hot day would be acceptable as its beachside.

That’s not the same as wearing PJs to the shops. That implies they were too comfy to get changed… aka that they’ve slept in them as otherwise they’d have put clothes on to get dressed (why would they put clean, new pjs on to go outside instead of clothes)?

People have been nipping to the garage in their pyjamas to get a pint of milk since forever, I couldn't get worked up over this.

I think your last sentence nails it. Metal health/illness aside, they are on average not going to be decent contributors to society. It's a package isn't it. Having no shame is as bad as being consumed by it.

Where do they put the change?

Well that’s nonsense. You can’t walk into cafes and supermarkets here fresh from the beach sand in your hair with just your togs and a towel and no shoes. No way! I should know I tried and had gasps of horror which was kinda funny.

It’s everywhere. I’m horrified by what I see.

This is gross, how can that be remotely hygienic.

It's just weird to present yourself in public in obvious nightwear imo. Fluffy dressing gown, slippers, the works. There's so many items that can be worn as leisure/nightwear that look ok outdoors too. Leggings and tshirt fine for a quick petrol station dash if for some reason you haven't had time to get dressed.

It's like all the people stood outside hospitals smoking resplendent in fluffy pjs and dressing gowns. Just put some clothes on! It you're well enough to walk to the entrance to smoke you're well enough to get dressed.

I worked in Waitrose as a teen and caught a viral infection from the money that the naice middle class clientele were giving me- cash is covered in germs regardless of who is giving it to you.

Where I live the travelling community are the ONLY people who do this.

For me it reflects the huge “entitlement” culture - I’ll do what I want and don’t give a shit what anyone thinks.

Unfortunately, this is becoming more and more common.

Shopping, filling the car up with petrol - it seems to be the norm to wear PJ's, dressing gown and fluffy slippers.

And dear god - the school run! At my children's old primary school, there are now countless mothers in the aforementioned attire, usually with a vape in one hand, and a mobile phone in the other.

And no, I am not being a snob. Turn the clock back 10 years when my children were there - not one parent wore their PJ's to take their children to school!

If you are feeling ill, then just chuck on some proper clothes and a coat to go out in, and get changed when you get back home. IMHO 99.9% of the time, it is just down to laziness / CBA mentality.