AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

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To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

How were these thugs trying to protect the rights of British people?

This reminds me more and more irresistibly of the tactics of Hitler's supporters with dissenters at his rallies. I guess they were just protecting the rights of German people so far as you are concerned.

Farage was vocal enough about Sir Keir's sunglasses, yet expects to be left alone over £5 million. Can you not see the sheer bloody hypocrisy in that?

Oh they can. They are just thrilled by the attention they're getting. Makes them feel a bit better. Ol' Hatie. 🤣

Well you can think what you like and support what you like and other people can object and protest, right?

I believe this would be aggravated trespass which is a criminal offence. It is trespass with the intention to disrupt. The party had the right to remove the trespassers but that does not give them the right to assault. Reasonable force, which is usually quite forceful in such circumstances, is absolutely fine. Random assaults are definitely not. The difference is quite apparent, I think.

Milkshake anyone?

As an aside, that reminds me - back in 2001 when Labour's then-Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, punched a protester in the face after he threw an egg. Prescott wasn't sacked or prosecuted and Labour won the election;

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/inside-john-prescotts-famous-punch-34155196

'As an aside' is right 😂
The whataboutery is strong on this thread.
But to stay with it, can you imagine Prescott cheering on a baying mob violently laying into a lone woman? I really can't.

I would have no part in any political party where the leadership conducted themselves in that manner

Out of interest, did you vote for Labour in 2001 after the 'Prescott Punch'?

Just to be clear. You’re comparing an incident where a young man hits an older man at point blank range with an egg (and goes on to punch him) and the older man throws a punch with an incident where a woman shouts something and is beaten by several people? You think these two things are the same?

The police say they are investigating and have identified suspects

I was clearly responding to the 'milkshake' reference. Do you think Nigel Farage (who is exactly the same age now as John Prescott was at the time) should be able to punch protesters in the face if they throw milkshake at him? As for the 'older man' comment, John Prescott was an ex-boxer.

Unfortunately we're going to see more and more of this type of behaviour, violence, abuse and assault are just part of their culture.

You were responding to "I would have no part in any political party where the leadership conducted themselves in that manner" (which came directly after "I would be reacting the same way had this occurred at any party conference")* *You even quoted it in your reply.

I think that we would be having a very different conversation if it were about one man punching another who had assaulted him at point blank range (Obviously if that happened we might also wonder what exactly Nige did spend the £5 million security money on). But that isn't what happened and so is irrelevant.

So you do support a mob attacking a woman exercising free speech? Your whataboutery is irrelevant. Reform always deflect, attack and reverse victim and offender. Classic abusive man syndrome.

Deflection.

Sorry to say I've learned nothing from your posts. Nothing that's changed my stance on this matter.

I cannot imagine trying to justify the abhorrent violence we saw. So basically you're saying "she was asking for it"?

So it’s ok to violently assault people who don’t agree with you? So we all have license to go and assault reform supporters according to you? I think you need to seriously read the British laws considering you have such strong opinions!!

Sorry to say I've learned nothing

Colour me surprised.

Fucking awful victim blaming

I hope they go to prison for it

I didn't realise I was obliged to change my opinion because you say so. Having a mind of one's own should hardly surprise a fellow adult.

OK, that was my subsequent question to the op - she has yet to answer.

I think that we would be having a very different conversation if it were about one man punching another who had assaulted him at point blank range

Not substantially different if Nigel Farage had punched a protester in the face after being assaulted with an egg. The op also states; 'the reaction of elected MPs - is everyone's problem.' Do you think elected MPs should be able to punch protesters in the face after being assaulted or provoked?

So you do support a mob attacking a woman exercising free speech?

I didn't say that.

Reform always deflect

I'm not Reform - I vote Conservative.

Unlike most other people there NOT by Russia