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AIBU to think my friend should just accept I am marrying her ex?

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BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 10:45

I’m 35 and have been with my partner for 4 years. We actually met again completely by chance after many years of not seeing each other, hit it off, were messaging for a week or so and decided to go on a date and he asked to meet up for a coffee and a walk. Before we had even been on our first date, I told my friend that we had hit it off messaging and we’re going for coffee because I wanted to be upfront with her.

He had been her boyfriend at university when they were around 18–20. They were together for about 2 years. They broke up nearly 20 years ago and obviously people change enormously between 18 and 36.

When I told her, after a couple time of meeting him that we are officially seeing each other I specifically asked if she had a problem with it. She said no, so I took that at face value. I wasn’t sneaking around or getting into a relationship with her ex behind her back. I actually even told her before we’d been on the first date.

We’ve now been together for 4 years. We moved in together & he proposed earlier this year and I said yes. We’re very happy, are buying a house together and would like to have children. We have a wedding date set for next June, invitations have gone out and our university friends have been absolutely lovely about it , RSVPs, messages, people booking hotels etc. They’re genuinely excited for us.

When I told this particular friend about the engagement, she said, “Oh, are you going to marry my ex?” I reminded her that we’d been together for 4 years and that I had told her about us from the very beginning. She then said that she’d only said she had no problem with it because she didn’t think we would last.
That has really thrown me.

I completely understand that she might have complicated feelings about it. I’m not trying to tell her how she should feel. But at some point, surely you have to accept that this was a relationship from university when you were 18 years old?

It’s not as though they were together for 15 years, were engaged, had children or had some huge life together. They were university sweethearts for a couple of years, nearly 20 years ago. She has since married, had children and divorced. He and I have now built an actual adult life together over the last four years.

And honestly, I find it particularly difficult because I had exactly the reverse situation myself. One of my friends married someone I had dated at university. I was 18. They got together years later and eventually married and have children. I genuinely didn't have an issue with it. I thought, “We were teenagers at university, life moved on,” and I was happy for them.

So I’m struggling with why I’m apparently supposed to feel guilty now.

I also wonder whether this friendship may simply be worth losing if this is something she can’t move past. Obviously I’d rather not lose a friend, but I don’t think I can spend the rest of my life feeling that I’ve done something wrong by marrying my partner.

All our other university friends seem completely happy for us and are looking forward to the wedding. Nobody else seems to see this as some enormous betrayal.

AIBU to think she needs to let this go? I can understand her feeling upset, but I don’t think she gets a veto over a relationship that started nearly 20 years after theirs ended.

Or am I being completely insensitive about the fact that, regardless of how long ago it was, he will always be “her ex” to her?

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BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 23:50

hds873banana · 15/08/2026 23:41

What on earth is a 5% relationship?

There are many people who had relationships during this age range who were shaped by the experience. It’s life. Those early relationships can be formative, for many different reasons. You don’t get to control how your friend feels. You can try as much as you like to diminish it to some weird sanitised 5% classification, but it won’t change the fact she had a deep connection with your partner and feels unhappy at your union with him. I once lived with someone and had a mortgage for several years. That relationship had less impact on me than earlier more shorter lived ones. It’s just the way relationships go. So let your friend feel how she feels.

i am not sure why you’d feel a deep connection to someone’s who even forgot who you were and the reaction was I forgot we even went out. Surely that’s just damaging yourself. I’ve let her feel how she feels I just don’t think it’s acceptable to say to someone you were okay with it because you didn’t think it would last meaning she was waiting for the breakdown of my relationship. It is not my fault she is divorced I supported her, I took her children out to the park for food etc to give her time for herself. It’s a sad state of affairs when someone truly cares about you yet deep down you’re waiting for something bad to happen to them.

I just think grown women in their mid 30s shouldn’t be yearning over someone they last knew at 20 years old. What about the husband she was married to and actively chose to have children with. If that was the man then yes I would be in the wrong but it’s not. It’s okay to just move on with life and not be bitter he could leave me at any point but it’s okay for me to be in a happy relationship where I feel loved she doesn’t own him nor does she gave monopoly on him, they have no ties to one another anymore. She is allowed to feel how she feels but the things she has said are beyond normal and are not okay at all. I tried my best to be open and honest from the jump it’s almost 5 yrs what did she think two adults were doing, just dating fir the sake of it while she was waiting for it all to break down.

The five percent us because it’s such a significant amount of their lives they knew eachother for such a short space of time. You can reminisce but the other person isn’t obligated to feel the same way or to even care.

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mulberrymilk · 16/08/2026 00:11

BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 23:30

What’s the percent then ? I never said I was a mathematician the percentage was a guesstimate. Isn’t it 2 divided by 36 times 100 ?

Edited

Multiple posters have pointed out it was not "20 years ago" etc etc etc.

WaryHiker · 16/08/2026 00:14

I hope you weren't studying maths at university. From the dates you've given, you started seeing him eleven years after their breakup, and it's now fifteen years. Not that it matters, but your repeated insistence on it being almost twenty years seems to indicate you're trying to distance yourself from their relationship as much as you can because deep down you feel a little weird about it.

mulberrymilk · 16/08/2026 00:14

The five percent us because it’s such a significant amount of their lives they knew eachother for such a short space of time.

Some people only knew the great love of their life for one week or one day.

You can reminisce but the other person isn’t obligated to feel the same way or to even care.

Is that what you are worried about, and is driving your contempt for her? Because this level of mockery, cruelty, and dismissal of her feelings is kind of borderline sociopathic.

Tiedbutchorestodo · 16/08/2026 00:26

I think I’d be a bit annoyed if a good friend dated any of my serious exs (and I’d count 2 years as serious - my uni boyfriend was probably my “biggest” love in many ways)

It just feels a bit disloyal and unnecessary - there’s enough other men out there - but now you’re at the point you are I’d just accept the friendship will probably end.

hds873banana · 16/08/2026 00:38

I’m starting to think he’s telling porkies. Doesn’t remember a two year relationship at university. Really? It reads as though he knows you’d be jealous and kick off so he’s saying that to avoid you going off the deep end. Which you are.

hds873banana · 16/08/2026 00:48

Also not sure why you keep saying ‘grown women’ shouldn’t feel like X. This is very emotionally illiterate. Emotions and feelings don’t work that way. She’s just got divorced which is brutal. How does anyone’s age stop them feeling feelings. It doesn’t. I’m a grown women, older than you, and if anything, age makes many people feel things more strongly. We don’t get to an age where suddenly we don’t feel that, betrayal, loss, grief, disappointment.

Mapleunicorn · 16/08/2026 01:13

You come across like you see things in a very black and white way, with no room for understanding the nuances of emotional intelligence

Because YOU were fine with a friend marrying your ex, everyone else should be too

Because YOU think a relationship that was 20 years ago wouldn’t matter to you anymore, it shouldn’t to her

Because she had a boyfriend before she met him, then he can’t be her first love

People can feel all kinds of complicated things that are not necessarily going to align with how you would you feel. That doesn’t make them “odd” it just makes them different to you

Honestly I would let this friendship go. You are clearly not willing to try and have any empathy for her or try and understand her at all. You say you are not close, so it’s not worth getting so worked up about. Just move on and live your lives

PeachMelbaYoghurt · 16/08/2026 01:21

It's also laughable that OP keeps minimising their relationship to 'only 2 years', 'casual', etc. when she's only been with him for 4 years herself!

I find it hard to believe he doesn't remember someone he had a 2yr relationship with during his uni days.

Uni days are often the best days of peoples lives - it's odd that he would forget someone he spent a significant amount of time in a relationship with.

But if he genuinely can't remember her, and OP cannot understand why the friend would feel upset over it all - then they're probably suited to each other and friend will have a lucky escape once OP distances herself from her. Hopefully she has some lovely friends around, cause OP certainly ain't one of them!

dh280125 · 16/08/2026 01:21

That’s bonkers! I know several people I dated when a teen who are now with other people we know from out social scene - friends of mine. I never give it a second thought and it’s weird she does.

andfinallyhereweare · 16/08/2026 03:12

@BePearlTiger youre looking at this very logically (and logically you are right) however, it seems your friend is coming at it from an emotional pov. It’s not for you to decide if she should be upset or not, or try and logic/argue out of it. Just be kind and maybe step back from the fiendship. It’s all you can do.

Theboymolefoxandhorse · 16/08/2026 04:37

BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 23:50

i am not sure why you’d feel a deep connection to someone’s who even forgot who you were and the reaction was I forgot we even went out. Surely that’s just damaging yourself. I’ve let her feel how she feels I just don’t think it’s acceptable to say to someone you were okay with it because you didn’t think it would last meaning she was waiting for the breakdown of my relationship. It is not my fault she is divorced I supported her, I took her children out to the park for food etc to give her time for herself. It’s a sad state of affairs when someone truly cares about you yet deep down you’re waiting for something bad to happen to them.

I just think grown women in their mid 30s shouldn’t be yearning over someone they last knew at 20 years old. What about the husband she was married to and actively chose to have children with. If that was the man then yes I would be in the wrong but it’s not. It’s okay to just move on with life and not be bitter he could leave me at any point but it’s okay for me to be in a happy relationship where I feel loved she doesn’t own him nor does she gave monopoly on him, they have no ties to one another anymore. She is allowed to feel how she feels but the things she has said are beyond normal and are not okay at all. I tried my best to be open and honest from the jump it’s almost 5 yrs what did she think two adults were doing, just dating fir the sake of it while she was waiting for it all to break down.

The five percent us because it’s such a significant amount of their lives they knew eachother for such a short space of time. You can reminisce but the other person isn’t obligated to feel the same way or to even care.

@BePearlTiger I’ve only read your posts but I think this is just one of those situations you need to just move on past. I’m sure it’s not nice getting paragraph long messages from someone making you feel bad about a time that should be a happy one for you. You’ve said many times this person isn’t a close friend but you may have invited her to the wedding. Just don’t invite her, dial down the friendship and move on. Tell her you’re sorry she’s upset but don’t think you’ve done anything wrong and if you must mute / block her.

Sometimes we feel irrational feelings. That’s life. I’m sure you’ve been there before. I don’t think she should be sending you long messages saying she misses him but it’s difficult to know exactly what the context of those are and it was a bit of a drip feed - people on mumsnet often only read the 1st post before commenting and gently I do think it’s strange you missed that out of your lengthy original post as that does explain perhaps why you’re having quite an extreme reaction to this all.

For what it’s worth I completely understand where both of you are coming from. To you they had a brief relationship, and you feel like you were open and honest about it and now you’re being made out to be the bad guy. Also youve had something similar / reverse happen to you and your reaction was completely different - which is mature and great but people don’t always have the same reactions to things.

My best friend about 8 years ago started dating someone that I had a huge crush on at school. I was at the time in a happy relationship with my now DH but I remember I felt strange about it - I even told my partner and he was like well that makes me feel weird but I couldn’t explain it. I was irrationally a bit mad at my friend - I didn’t act on it and never said anything but that was just how I felt.

You keep saying her main focus should be her children and referencing that she’s been married since, whilst at the same time saying she’s allowed to feel how she feels. I suspect the truth is you really don’t think she should be allowed to feel how she feels which is ok. Own that. There probably is a part of her that didn’t expect to be divorced and a single mum of 2 children and perhaps that’s playing into where this is all coming from now. I certainly don’t think she should be sending you long messages about it now you’re engaged and agree with you it’s weird she has said she misses him if she has had no contact with him ij over a decade and knows you’ve been dating for 4 years! she probably misses the idea of him or what he represented when she was younger and in love.

Re the fact that she told you it was ok 4 years ago, if you genuinely wouldn’t have pursued it any further if she had been honest about it then, be grateful she didn’t say anything back then as you wouldn’t be engaged to the person you love who you want to build the rest of your life with. I do understand her saying “I didn’t expect it to last which is why I didn’t say anything” which is not the same as “I was hoping it wouldn’t last”.

Ultimately I do think she should never have sent you the messages and I would be shocked too if I received them - but also think it shouldn’t be too hard to just move on as it sounds like she’s not a close friend. - by the time the wedding comes round you will have forgotten all about this.

ktopfwcv · 16/08/2026 05:22

BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 11:35

I think I’ll probably let the friendship fizzle out. It’s been almost 20 years and also she’s had 4 years to speak to me about it. The moment he proposes there’s suddenly an issue or that she didn’t expect it to last… what a sad was to think about your friends relationship, hoping it fails. It is just sad to see the bitterness over someone she doesn’t know, I think it’s fair to say knowing someone for 2 years out of 36 years of their lives and not seeing them in over 15 years…it’s safe to say you do not know them anymore.

Where did she say she hoped it failed?

Ages 20 to 31 is 11 years and closer to 10 than it is 20 so I'm not sure why you keep repeating that.

How is she trying to veto your relationship?

Renamedyetagain · 16/08/2026 06:19

This is the root of the issue OP, when you say "I just think grown women in their mid 30s shouldn’t be yearning over someone they last knew at 20 years old."

In YOUR opinion. Feelings, relationships, memories, yearnings, hopes, regrets, loss...humans are complicated and everyone deals with love and relationships differently. It pisses me off when people try and minimise stuff like this and say "she's bonkers, uni guy she dated, no monopoly on him", etc etc. No, she shouldn't be sending long paragraphs. Suggests she's not in a great head space.

But OP sounds like she has zero empathy, emotional awareness, compassion, understanding or sense of loyalty.

Personally, I wouldn't even consider a friend's ex, regardless of how long ago it was. Because I value the above qualities too highly. (It's not surprising you're in this situation OP, you've certainly shown your true colours as the thread has progressed).

You made a choice, deal with the fall out and stop trying to justify it.

Oh, and your fiance remembers her. 100%. If he really and truly doesn't, then you're pieces of work made for each other. HTH.

mumumental · 16/08/2026 06:26

How ridiculous.

ElectricLegs · 16/08/2026 06:42

She sounds controlling and jealous. Best to let her slip away as a friend.

LGBirmingham · 16/08/2026 07:43

BePearlTiger · 15/08/2026 22:03

Yes rejection sucks but also it was a long time ago. She has since been married and had children built a life, he’s not her ex husband if it was then yes I would be wrong but it’s not and it’s also not a 15 year marriage with children. I don’t think he owes her anything. He knew her for 2 years of his life that’s like 5.5% of his life and her life.

Op I don't think anyone is saying her behaviour is reasonable. But her feelings are entirely understandable given the context of her life and recent divorce with children involved. A 2 year long relationship at that age is massively formative as well. Most of mine only lasted a few months at that age and I was still heartbroken when they didn't work.

You seem to need her to feel ok about everything and I don't think you will get that. You keep repeating that you have been ok with a friend marrying your ex from that time and also that your fiance barely remembers her so she should feel ok. She isn't you or him you can't expect people to feel the same as you did in similar circumstances.

But you're seemingly incapable of understanding her perspective or wilfully not doing so to alleviate your guilt. Which I think you don't need to feel BTW. I don't think you have done anything wrong.

I'm going to bow out now as a lot of posters are saying the same as me.

Timeforachange26 · 16/08/2026 07:47

Missey85 · 15/08/2026 11:02

Are you serious WTH I'd be pissed too ☹️ I certainly wouldn't be ok with it what did you think would happen if you got with your friends ex? Your no friend to anybody I'd cut contact with you

Sounds a bit extreme. Are you still at school??

A friend of mine has been going out with my ex for 10 years. And he's the father of one of my kids. There was no overlap as was 7 years after we split they got together

In fact a couple of years ago they were both with us for Xmas dinner

Sartre · 16/08/2026 07:51

I get it. He might have been her first love, she remembers him and their time fondly. When you started dating she thought it would be a flash in the pan thing so didn’t need to make any sort of drama. The fact you’re actually getting married has hit home for her in some way.

Time passes but some people can remain frozen in the past in your mind wrapped up within certain memories. It probably feels a bit weird to think of you two getting married. Maybe a small part of her has been imagining the two of them staying together. It also sounds like he ended things which might make it more painful for her.

I’d give her space, since you’re not close anyway it might be worthwhile letting it fizzle.

BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:11

hds873banana · 16/08/2026 00:38

I’m starting to think he’s telling porkies. Doesn’t remember a two year relationship at university. Really? It reads as though he knows you’d be jealous and kick off so he’s saying that to avoid you going off the deep end. Which you are.

Yah maybe he’s telling porkies ahaha

I don’t remember everyone I went out with at university I guess I never had a first love eh maybe that’s why I’m so jealous and insecure

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BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:19

Renamedyetagain · 16/08/2026 06:19

This is the root of the issue OP, when you say "I just think grown women in their mid 30s shouldn’t be yearning over someone they last knew at 20 years old."

In YOUR opinion. Feelings, relationships, memories, yearnings, hopes, regrets, loss...humans are complicated and everyone deals with love and relationships differently. It pisses me off when people try and minimise stuff like this and say "she's bonkers, uni guy she dated, no monopoly on him", etc etc. No, she shouldn't be sending long paragraphs. Suggests she's not in a great head space.

But OP sounds like she has zero empathy, emotional awareness, compassion, understanding or sense of loyalty.

Personally, I wouldn't even consider a friend's ex, regardless of how long ago it was. Because I value the above qualities too highly. (It's not surprising you're in this situation OP, you've certainly shown your true colours as the thread has progressed).

You made a choice, deal with the fall out and stop trying to justify it.

Oh, and your fiance remembers her. 100%. If he really and truly doesn't, then you're pieces of work made for each other. HTH.

Yes he remembers her hopefully they rekindle ahaha.

Yes I have shown my true colours I think grown women with children should maybe focus on being a good parent for their young children not stuck in time over a 20 year old She should have said she’d find it difficult if things went further but instead she wanted it to fail. As much as you might not like my horrible true colours I’ve never wished for anyone’s relationship to fail.

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Namechangewegovyjune26 · 16/08/2026 08:21

BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:11

Yah maybe he’s telling porkies ahaha

I don’t remember everyone I went out with at university I guess I never had a first love eh maybe that’s why I’m so jealous and insecure

Is your memory genuinely that shit that you wouldn’t remember dating someone for 2 years?! I remember every person I went on more than a few dates with.

Maybe you should both go and see someone.

BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:25

Namechangewegovyjune26 · 16/08/2026 08:21

Is your memory genuinely that shit that you wouldn’t remember dating someone for 2 years?! I remember every person I went on more than a few dates with.

Maybe you should both go and see someone.

Yes my memory is so shit I don’t even remember a thing ever I’ve even forgotten what I had for breakfast this morning

Thank you I have been planning to see ‘ ‘someone’ I will go tomorrow they’re not open today sadly :(

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Renamedyetagain · 16/08/2026 08:26

BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:19

Yes he remembers her hopefully they rekindle ahaha.

Yes I have shown my true colours I think grown women with children should maybe focus on being a good parent for their young children not stuck in time over a 20 year old She should have said she’d find it difficult if things went further but instead she wanted it to fail. As much as you might not like my horrible true colours I’ve never wished for anyone’s relationship to fail.

Wow, now thinking you're slightly unhinged.

Thinking something probably won't work out is different to "hoping something will fail."

I'm glad you're not my friend - you have zero qualities I admire.

BePearlTiger · 16/08/2026 08:28

Renamedyetagain · 16/08/2026 08:26

Wow, now thinking you're slightly unhinged.

Thinking something probably won't work out is different to "hoping something will fail."

I'm glad you're not my friend - you have zero qualities I admire.

That’s true I have no qualities and I am so unhinged

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