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To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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Morningteacup2 · Yesterday 18:11

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 18:19

Isn't this exactly what Farage said a few months back to wind up the Greens?!

That Green voting areas should take more migrants if they are so pro-immigration.

The problem with the policy is that pointy elbowed middle classes are more likely to find ways to block this than less well off / educated areas - just as they are with house building. It will be just more opportunities for the NIMBYS.

BlackBean2023 · Yesterday 18:20

No I don’t agree. It’s not a race to the bottom.

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 18:22

Nope they all need to be deported immediately not housed and allowed to stay.
Nobody should have to put up with these men in their community

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:24

BlackBean2023 · Yesterday 18:20

No I don’t agree. It’s not a race to the bottom.

That is exactly what is wrong with this country. We don't fix shit, we just spread it around so more people can share in the misery.

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:24

It’s pretty much rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic at this stage. The way things are going, and Burnham has given no indication he’s going to do anything to stop the massive influx of young men on boats, everyone is going to be “taking their share” fairly soon anyway.

I mean, I suppose there’s a certain satisfaction in knowing that the middle classes will no longer be totally protected from the consequences which the working class have faced and been demonised for complaining about for so long. But moving “asylum seekers” round the country is really not the answer to the problem, is it?

Seashor · Yesterday 18:24

I have no objection to living near asylum seekers. I have a HUGE problem with ANYONE living near illegal immigrants,. No one should be able to live here illegally. A political party that can not or won’t protect its boarders is not fit to govern.

JacknDiane · Yesterday 18:24

I agree @Morningteacup2

DonaldWheresMaTweezers · Yesterday 18:24

It's perhaps time that middle earners got their fair share after years of subsidising everyone else.

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:24

Morningteacup2 · Yesterday 18:11

You are part of the problem.

indigorising · Yesterday 18:25

Aka dump large groups of people in isolated rural areas with zero resources.

HoraceCope · Yesterday 18:26

Crowborough is very middle class
they would be apoplectic by his remarks
i imagine the telegraph are wetting themselves with their article, winding up the middle classes, ie their readers

scatterolight · Yesterday 18:27

I'd enjoy it if the "empath" who can't get on with her right wing husband gets some in her village.

But otherwise no, all should be deported before we slide into a complete societal breakdown.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · Yesterday 18:27

Nobody should have to take them

Minasama · Yesterday 18:28

I mean yes, because I get fed up of the middle classes describing those who complain about migrants as “waacist” while not living in Slough, Bradford, inner Birmingham, Rochdale etc.
But no, because illegal migrants shouldn’t be here.

hattie43 · Yesterday 18:28

They need to get rid not house them in even more expensive areas . I feel for any community saddled with these people .

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 18:29

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 18:19

Isn't this exactly what Farage said a few months back to wind up the Greens?!

That Green voting areas should take more migrants if they are so pro-immigration.

The problem with the policy is that pointy elbowed middle classes are more likely to find ways to block this than less well off / educated areas - just as they are with house building. It will be just more opportunities for the NIMBYS.

No
He specifically said he wanted to put "Detention centres" in the places that voted green. The detention centres in mind were the Reform alternative to the current system so it was a bit weird because presumably people voting Green wouldn't be in favour of those anyway. It's also different to talk about distributing things like that based on voting patterns, than to talk about distributing them fairly/putting them in wealthier areas. Yes you could infer Green voting areas are more likely to be wealthy but it's not the same thing. It would be like a Green government threatening to "punish" areas that vote reform by putting wind turbines there. Rather than saying they would build more wind turbines.

HoraceCope · Yesterday 18:29

so many comments on the telegraph page, it must be a record

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:29

I often think with threads I’d like there to be an indicator system where certain demographics of posters have to br displayed if you wanted to post (so like on MIL threads, it would display if you were a MIL or DIL).

On this thread I’d like it to display

  • are you middle class?
  • do you live in a 90% + white area?
  • have you every called a working class person racist for complaining about the effects of mass immigration on their community?
Glassandahalf82 · Yesterday 18:30

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:24

That is exactly what is wrong with this country. We don't fix shit, we just spread it around so more people can share in the misery.

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I agree with this.

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:32

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:29

I often think with threads I’d like there to be an indicator system where certain demographics of posters have to br displayed if you wanted to post (so like on MIL threads, it would display if you were a MIL or DIL).

On this thread I’d like it to display

  • are you middle class?
  • do you live in a 90% + white area?
  • have you every called a working class person racist for complaining about the effects of mass immigration on their community?

No to all of those. What does that prove?

TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 18:35

Seashor · Yesterday 18:24

I have no objection to living near asylum seekers. I have a HUGE problem with ANYONE living near illegal immigrants,. No one should be able to live here illegally. A political party that can not or won’t protect its boarders is not fit to govern.

The government doesn't house unauthorised immigrants, so how will you know where they are living?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10337/

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:36

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:32

No to all of those. What does that prove?

In your case, not a lot. I’d be very interested to hear @BlackBean2023 or @indigorising ’s answers though.

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 18:37

Seashor · Yesterday 18:24

I have no objection to living near asylum seekers. I have a HUGE problem with ANYONE living near illegal immigrants,. No one should be able to live here illegally. A political party that can not or won’t protect its boarders is not fit to govern.

You can't apply for asylum outside of the UK.
The way the law works is you first have to come to the UK then, once there, you can submit an asylum application. This either means coming to the UK by plane on a different sort of visa or entering it in an "irregular" fashion (the small boats). Usually people entering in this way will make themselves immediately known to the authorities, at which point they become asylum seekers and their claim is processed. If their claim is successful they then become refugees. While waiting for their claim to be processed they aren't living here illegally. The migrants in the migrant centres/hotels are living where they are told to live.

I don't like the current system, but we chose to make the laws the way they are. People following those laws/that system may be good people or may be awful people. But the term "illegal" isn't a helpful one.

DonaldWheresMaTweezers · Yesterday 18:37

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Yesterday 18:29

I often think with threads I’d like there to be an indicator system where certain demographics of posters have to br displayed if you wanted to post (so like on MIL threads, it would display if you were a MIL or DIL).

On this thread I’d like it to display

  • are you middle class?
  • do you live in a 90% + white area?
  • have you every called a working class person racist for complaining about the effects of mass immigration on their community?
  • are you middle class?

No - working class middle earner.

  • do you live in a 90% + white area?

83% white according to Google

have you every called a working class person racist for complaining ...

If they use racist language, yes. Not if they present their views in a reasoned way.

(edited for formatting)

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 18:39

Why just the middle class? Why not target the richest as well?

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