To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

I know, this is baffling to me.

What exactly are you trying to say?

Because there are rapists in this country (same as in every country) we should import more men from countries and backgrounds which don’t value women?

Do an advanced search and see my contributions over an array of topics. Do you spread yourself thinly on here?

Fair, I probably don’t post as much as you. I have a life outside Mumsnet 😆

Ha!

So many intelligent, professional people feeling like they’ve had enough now. And certainly still with their own teeth 🤣

It’s a lazy and stupid rhetoric the left resort to when they’ve lost the argument.

There are bad white men. But every girl would rather be born and live in the west than experience life in Kabul

How much money goes into this??? This is just one example of the organisations that are using taxpayers money... approx £4b last year. And no one except the fucking government wants these extra people here.

Edit, it won't let me post this so I'll link to is on Twitter:

https://x.com/FreespeechShell/status/2087485975593107826/photo/1

Indeed. Funny that.

Firstly you are contributing to this counterproductive conversation by participating in this thread and giving it airtime. You appear to be trying to educate others, which might indicate that you unconsciously feel superior. Have you ever considered that it is you who has been gaslit or brainwashed ?
finally, not a single person in here claims that „every” problem is caused by immigration so don’t exaggerate to strengthen your argument .

Yes it was much better

I think we wouldn’t have had the population decreases as much if we had been left alone to get on with it and there would have been social housing for the younger generation and house prices wouldn’t have gone up as much.

making everyone go to university and having huge student debt wasn’t a great policy either.

Most are not escaping persecution. If they were they would stop in the first safe country and be grateful. We all know why they are coming to the U.K. Even other Europeans are saying its benefits its housing it’s free health, dental care ( oh I wish) etc.

That's your perogative, as is mine to post with the frequency on any topic I choose.

The UK has lost it's mind:

https://x.com/CharlotteCGill/status/2087536532353581138

"Over half a million pounds of taxpayers money given to a college so some leftie student can write about, “finance inclusive prosperity in Ramallah”… lots of people saying many UK universities are on the brink of financial collapse - I’ll actually be glad to see them go…"

It's not a major thing and the positives (beautiful town, countryside on the doorstep, beaches 15 minutes away, peace and quiet) far outweigh the negatives.

But when I moved here 35 years ago, I genuinely didn't realise how monocultural it was until I'd been here a few weeks; and it was a good while before it really sank in how much the monocultural nature of the place was entrenched.

I think that might have been when my neighbour was mildly horrified because we got a new postman who was a Sikh...

Realise what exactly? Gaslighting is telling us that we're crazy and that the problem isn't real.

Is that what you are saying. Toothless simpletons?

Gaslighting
Common Signs and Tactics

Denying reality: Saying things like "That never happened" or "You are dreaming".
Blaming the victim: Saying "You caused this" or "If you weren't so bad, I wouldn't do this".
Trivializing feelings: Telling someone "You are too sensitive" or "You are overreacting" when they get upset.
Rewriting history: Changing details of past events to make themselves look better and the other person look wrong

I suspect you don't actually understand the word.

Problem for Andy is that when middle class people see these sort of headlines a lot may start voting Reform. 🤷‍♀️. So I’m not sure he isn’t shooting himself in the foot by announcing it. He might have been better off just doing it without making it seem like an official policy type set up.

@Persephonia1966 that link also high lights roma children at risk .

And this is exactly why these discussions go nowhere. Everyone ends up fighting each other over race, nationality, left versus right and who hates whom, while the bigger issues barely get discussed.

Where is the long-term investment in British people and businesses? Skills, apprenticeships, technology, automation, infrastructure, housing and productivity? Where is the plan to make it worthwhile for businesses to invest and employ people here?

Calling white men “knuckle-dragging flag shaggers” is no more constructive than making sweeping derogatory statements about migrants. Neither fixes anything.

Meanwhile ordinary people argue amongst themselves and governments get away with failing to address the structural problems that actually affect our living standards. I'd rather argue about what Britain needs to do better than which group we're supposed to blame this week.

Agree.

There are lots of people in the UK (and abroad) making an absolute fortune out of this human trafficking. Where are the incentives to stop it?

They are quite indifferent. Equality is so ingrained that they believe that immigrants are entitled to equal representation in rape here and it's racist not to provide victims.

They can apply for a Voter Authority Certificate, its free and doesn't require a photo ID.

I'm sure you don't need ID in Scotland and Wales to vote?

That brilliant Burnham
Cost of Living plan in full:

1. Take 56p off electricity bills for a bit
2. Screw over a few vape shops
3. Tax the hell out of anyone with a house or a good job
4. Make a bunch of TikTok videos
5. Mention asylum seekers... oops!

If that's a problem for Andy he needs to deal with the issue by stopping this wave of mass unwanted economic migration that the taxpayer seemingly has no choice but to fund, whilst simultaneously being told theres not enough money for defence, pensions,NHS.
Then nobody would need to consider voting Reform/Restore.

So you think government policy shouldn’t be communicated to citizens, in case it makes him unpopular? Perhaps you also think we should ban freedom of information requests, or perhaps just cancel elections maybe?

Really? It looks like you’ve invested a lot of your time on this thread today 🤡

Well, of course that’s not all!

Really, you ought to be ashamed of yourself

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