Letter from HA about loud music?

[autumnbeee]

So basically I received a letter from my HA about loud music causing a disturbance to other residents here.

I am the only one who received it.

I suspect my NDN reported me as I don't think who else it could be?

Surely they could have just left a polite note or approached me?

I assume this will be on my file now?

Really?

I own a flat in a tenement which is a mixture of owner occupied /privately rented and one owned by an HA. The flat I own is rented out and is next to the HA one. The HA tenant can sometimes be very noisy. The HA sent my tenant forms to record the time and duration of noise and were clear my tenant should contact them direct.

I disagree. People don't like approaching neighbours to complain. They just rely on neighbours to be considerate.

How is that the same as your tenant not being able to have a conversation?

housing associations reinvest profit into new housing. The more they have to invest into sending letters so that people can avoid simple conversations with their neighbours, the less they have for new housing.

many HAs are explicit that they expect you to take responsibility for yourself in simple matters. It’s like calling the police because you’ve decided you’re too scared to deal with it yourself.

You say you play loud music at times, which implies it’s as and when. The trouble is, your neighbours will be tense in anticipation of the music suddenly coming on. When it’s quiet, they don’t know how long that will last.

Believe it or not loud music in the garden absolutely can constitute antisocial behaviour.

Surely you know it is a nuisance without the letter tho. OP?

If your neighbours played their music, that you disliked, loudly, how would you feel?

Sorry jut it's very inconsiderate to play music in your garden at all. Let alone it being loud enough that others hear the lyrics.
I would avoid you too.
Use headphones 🎧.

That's the first you've mentioned anything about offensive lyrics....whose music are you listening to?

Your reaction to this is very selfish. Don’t you care that you have been bothering neighbours with loud, offensive music? I suppose you don’t, or you wouldn’t be playing loud offensive music in the first place. It doesn’t matter how the message was relayed to you. Just stop doing it.

And yes if you persist with antisocial behaviours and generate a lot of complaints you won’t get a good reference from the HA should you need one. One complaint is inconsequential.

My tenant does not owe the HA or their tenant anything other than to behave in a reasonable manner towards her neighbour. It's up to the HA to deal with their tenant who failed to show the same responsibility.

The HA in question, unlike you, were clear my tenant should speak direct to them, not their tenant.

Oh and there's nothing wrong with calling the police if your neighbour is behaving in a antisocial way.

You would call the police because a neighbour was playing music in the garden?

jesus Christ. Where did you learn what the police are for?

People worry about the reaction they might get if they complain to your face, that’s why they’ve reported it to your HA

Just put an earpod in in future

Stop playing shit music in your garden.

When you play music, if anyone other than you and yours can hear it, it's unacceptable.

Please don't play loud music in the garden it's extremely anti social.
Do you do it regularly? If so perhaps they had just had enough and thought complaining to the HA would make sure you stopped doing it

Many people who play loud music won’t respond to a complaint with “oh I’m so sorry, we’ll be sure to keep it down in future.”

Hand on heart, is that what you would have said? Or would you have responded defensively or by questioning them like you are doing now?

Given this, it’s clearly easier to go via HA.

I'm astonished at the poster who claims that she has 20 years experience in housing insisting that neighbours should sort this out.

My tenant who was having a problem with a neighbour in an HA flat reported it to me because as her landlord I have a responsibility to her. The HA were absolutely clear my tenant should go direct to them, not their tenant. They even issued a stock of pro forma incident reports.

@autumnbeee
And surely you know the playing your music in the garden is a nuisance? Why on earth should other people have to remind of your manners, you sound as though you are blaming them for your lack of consideration.
wear headphones if you want to listen to music outside.

They shouldn’t have to, surely you know loud music in close proximity to others is anti social?

Could you not have worked out for yourself that blasting loud music outdoors might be a pain in the arse for those living near you?
You’re seriously just worried about a reference? Just turn it off or go indoors.

How about not being an inconsiderate twerp and having some respect for other people's peace and quiet?

What's HA, and what file, and how do you know you're the only one?

Given how many people here at MN seem to have problems speaking up, I'm not surprised a neighbor might have been leery about approaching you.

Why don't you approach your neighbor? Say nicely you're sorry if they were disturbed, and provide your telephone number to let you know directly of any future problem.

So OP, are you going to keep the music down as requested? You’ve not said, you’ve only speculated about who it might have been, and you’ve told us about how your chief suspect doesn’t talk to you.

But you’ve not said you’re going to do anything. This is why she or he went via the housing office.

What's HA, and what file, and how do you know you're the only one?

HA =Housing Association
File - any record of complaints, which if serious enough could and should lead to eviction.

OP will be only one if she's the only 9ne one bevahing in an antisocial way.

People are often told not to write notes because it’s seen as passive aggressive and weasly and “they should say it to my face”. Then again, actually saying things to people’s faces can end up very badly because some people are absolute horrors. Anything directed at children/ hedges/ parking/ their “castle” sends some people into a frenzy.

I understand them going to the HA although I would probably have tried a very polite word with you first, - unless you have a brace of American bullies and scream at your kids and smoke weed in the garden in which case I wouldn’t risk it.