Letter from HA about loud music?

[autumnbeee]

So basically I received a letter from my HA about loud music causing a disturbance to other residents here.

I am the only one who received it.

I suspect my NDN reported me as I don't think who else it could be?

Surely they could have just left a polite note or approached me?

I assume this will be on my file now?

If someone played Abba constantly so I could hear it if using my garden to sit out in to read a book, or just sit with a glass of wine, I'd seriously contemplate moving.

Are you in an urban area?
Do you never actually get to sit in your garden and hear the birds?

Not urban, small town surrounded by country.

If I went out in the morning on a school weekday, I’d be able to hear the birds I think, though granted I’ve not tried.

The times I’m in my garden tend to tally with children being in their gardens / lots of family life going on.

It doesn’t bother me at all, everyone seems to be quite balanced and even though that means we can hear each others noise it’s not a problem for me and none of my neighbours have mentioned it, and we do quite regularly enjoy a whinge about other stuff 😂

I guess for my personal circumstances I wouldn’t dream of thinking the crying baby / kids playing / parents listening to music shouldn’t be in their gardens or making noise.

if it wasn’t balanced and someone was blasting music to the drowning out of all others it would be different of course.

I live in the middle of a city. I'm so happy my neighbours realise that playing music in their gardens is selfish behaviour.

Points taken, no more music.

So refreshing to have someone admit they were in the wrong and mend their ways!

I think outdoor music is antisocial, OP, except in very specific situations (like a once a year party where you inform and invite the neighbours, say). There's just no need for it nowadays. Either use earphones if you want to sit outside, or if the music is that important, go indoors.

😂😂😂

Playing music in your own garden is fine....
It's like bonfires....again, fine if in your own garden.

It's when it strays outside of your own boundry affecting others enjoyment that you then become an inconsiderate arsehole selfish being.

Just heard my neighbours singing happy birthday and clapping

The horror

😂😂

I guess not everyone thinks that though?

And tbh it doesn’t even have to be in a garden, I have my window open and I can hear my neighbours singing atm.

I can also hear piano playing somewhere.

And the newborn is still crying the poor thing.

It seems that for many on this thread that’s selfish and stops them enjoying their gardens.

I’m glad I don’t feel this way and can cope with these noises. And that I love ABBA so when it gets put on, I don’t mind. Now trying to think of an artist that would give me the rage if a neighbour played it 😂

Granted I’m fortunate there aren’t many neighbours around to make noise, I just can’t imagine having to try and maintain silence in a neighbours garden.

I feel like I’m being really stupid and missing a trick here as those things can’t be contained to your own boundary. Or is that the point? They are never fine?

Think you can now see clearly that virtually everyone would consider you a nuisance neighbour on this basis - hope you now realise how annoying you must be - I’m sure you’ve been playing music in the garden or indoors with windows open on more than a few occasions for them to complain.

Thats the point really..

People always come back with "its my garden, I'll do as I please", and that's the polite reply.

Theyre not intelligent enough to think that the noise/smoke won't stay within the boundary of their garden and will travel to disturb orhers enjoyment.

It just feels like then so many things aren’t allowed
Children playing at all, as predominately they do make noise playing in a garden
so no padding pools, football, trampolines etc
Power garden tools
Gatherings, as again chatting, especially lively happy chatting carries
Crying babies
Music as mentioned

It feels really miserable, controlling and unfriendly to say that people can only be in their garden if they are quiet enough for the noise to not travel past their boundary

@SENsupportplease

It just feels like then so many things aren’t allowed
Children playing at all, as predominately they do make noise playing in a garden
so no padding pools, football, trampolines etc

10 footballs in your garden everyday and kids knocking at 7am on Sunday morning for them. Trampolines positioned so the kids can see right into your garden.

Power garden tools

9pm Sunday evening. 8am Sunday morning.

Gatherings, as again chatting, especially lively happy chatting carries

’Shes a fucking cunt, fat slag, her boyfriend slashed the tyres of that bastard who fathered her bastard kids’ shouted really loudly.

Crying babies

which is really distressing when no one is making an effort to comfort them.

Music as mentioned

Bass music all day everyday and night.

It feels really miserable, controlling and unfriendly to say that people can only be in their garden if they are quiet enough for the noise to not travel past their boundary

People aren’t saying that.

Take responsibility for your actions.

None of these things is OK.

If you play loud music and live in a property which is not yours you run the risk of being reported to the landlord,HA, council. This could easily be filed and taken into consideration if there are other problems (like arrears).

You’re being ridiculous, nobody is saying that people can only use their gardens in silence. You’re turning a request for reasonable consideration into an imaginary ban on ordinary life.

Children playing, babies crying and necessary garden maintenance are normal, largely unavoidable sounds. Even then, most considerate people still think about timing and duration. Gatherings, music and amplified bass are different because their volume is much more controllable.

The question isn’t whether any sound crosses your boundary; it’s whether the noise is excessive, persistent or intrusive enough to prevent somebody else from enjoying their own home or garden.

Why does asking someone to turn music down, or close a door when it is clearly disturbing a neighbour feel “controlling” to you? If a neighbour politely told you that your music was causing them distress, would you make a small adjustment, or would you insist that their only option was to tolerate it? Does their right to enjoy their home matter as much as your right to enjoy yours?

Living alongside other people inevitably requires compromise in both directions. Consideration isn’t miserable or unfriendly; refusing any compromise because you want to make whatever noise you like is.

It's like people can't see there's a difference between silence (which no one is asking for) and blasting loud music and generally making a ridiculous amount of noise

some are saying that

and some aren’t talking about reasonable time frames, they are talking about all the time

people are saying at 12 noon on a sat, that a lawnmower running, abba on the radio, crying baby (being comforted by mum), kids kicking a football, kids bouncing on an trampoline (nothing to do with seeing in, we are discussing noise only), a family chatting and laughing - is not ok.

i find that sad.

its not the same as bad language or aggression or anti social times, yet people on here have criticised ANY noise.

I don’t understand your post

i don’t make any noise in my garden really

i was replying to someone who talked about noise not going past a boundary / their garden being silent.

so some have been that extreme.

not sure why you are choosing to attack me and say things I’ve not said, eg I’ve not mentioned someone asking a door to be shut?

The music isn't OK. It's antisocial to impose your music on other people.

@sally037@NoCommentingFromNowOn

my comment, that both of you have attacked was part of a response to another comment saying that noise shouldn’t travel past a boundary. No exceptions or conditions were made.

I personally find that strange and unrealistic and don’t agree with it.

please consider availing yourself of context before going on the attack and making assumptions.

again for clarity - I don’t really make any noise in my garden, I just don’t expect my neighbours to be silent.

What music?!? I don’t play music! Im
talking about what my neighbours do that no-one in my neighbourhood seems to mind. I certainly don’t.

Some have said silence is the standard tbf.

Others think any music (not just ridiculous amounts) isn’t ok

can’t please everyone so how do you decide? Keeping it between certain times and age appropriate seems fair

maybe a legal decibal level? Something measurable?