AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

We also have mass disinformation campaigns, hacks etc coming out of China, Russia and North Korea. To combat that we need a properly funded, workable defence. Trump may be saying outrageous nonsense on Social Media but he is doing it in plain sight. Pobably as an accidental distraction tactic, encouraged by his BFF's Putin and Xi.

I think there is something rather large missing from this equation - Musk. He didn't go after the Tories the way he has gone for Starmer and Labour. MN posters, btl press etc. are a speck of SM dust in comparison.

Why would he do that? He’s the PM why would he risk someone else getting in?

Don’t talk shite

Yes we have the exterior disinformation to worry about now. Concerning whatever your politics.

There is it’s all the Labour supporters who used SM. You can see it on here. Now you and others say hang on this is tough, well yeh that’s what you enjoyed at the time.

Because - as we discovered when Boris illegally prorogues parliament - the Monarch has fuck all power.

Sorry just to be clear, are you claiming the people using social media during the 2019-24 Tory administration were Labour supporters, and nobody of any other political persuasion engaged?

I've told you before about not going waaah you just think that because you support Labour when someone whose politics you don't actually know makes a point you don't like, but I want to be clear exactly what flavour of that is happening here.

This is my thinking and if he can't get the bold changes through then he could call an election to form his own government. He's already called (set his stall out) for a united party... we will see.

And a good thing too.

A Roman Catholic PM. I've just discovered another reason to be wary but that's a whole new thread.

Would people vote for a Labour with a fresh mandate? That's the risk he could take.

Terresa done it and it didn't go so well. Boris done it and got a good outcome.

You what now? Labour supporters did to the last gov on social media what they’d like to stop now. Obviously that’s not going to happen.

If he called one he would get more seats than he will in 2 years time.

The best he could hope for though is a hung parliament.

I don't think he will do it. The bad news will keep piling in and he will be as popular as Stammer in 6 months time.

1688 called and wants it's bigotry back.

You keep saying the same thing.
It's been explained and clarified about the role of sm.

Indeed.

Because the way things are at the moment, no one else would get in. We would have a hung parliament, which he would continue to lead in coalition with the other left of centre parties. He'd still be PM and have 5 years ahead of him rather than 3.
If he waits too long there's a possibility of the Conservatives getting their act together and becoming a meaningful threat as people drift back from the sinking ship of Reform.
I'm not saying he will do it. I'm saying this would be reason to do it.

The UK doesn't want socialism. If AB moves Labour to the left, he is doomed to lose the next election.

There's a lot of bigotry on MN, as you well know.

If he does it may be an own goal, after years of being a flip flopping centrist the recent labour government has made me lurch to the right and if anything, commie Andy will onky make me lurch further.

Why did you use the word 'all' then? Do you think all Labour supporters did it, and if so how does that mean they had the power to set the scene? Or do you think all the people doing it were Labour? Because what you've written here is not like the rather mangled comment in the preceding post.

It's a lot of hole digging to back up a rather silly claim. Particularly when you could've just made the entirely reasonable point that it's annoying to see people who called for GEs when their party were in opposition suddenly change tune now.

Of course, if he were to call an election, it would be a shame if it clashed with the run up to the US midterms, when media bandwidth may be constrained.

This.
They had makerfield success but they forced that by election because so many councils went to reform !

It's awful, isn't it? Mind you I caught the tail end of a previous thread where Burnham's accent was being mocked so I think there's a level of desperation.

There is. That isn't a reason for you to add some more.