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AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 00:56

To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

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LagerLady · 20/07/2026 11:58

We need the right to get back in to sort benefits and immigration.

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 11:59

LagerLady · 20/07/2026 11:58

We need the right to get back in to sort benefits and immigration.

They had 14 years to do that.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 11:59

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 11:55

There is. That isn't a reason for you to add some more.

Well that's the assumption several have made. As I said, it's for another thread or one to contribute on when region pops up - again.

SerendipityJane · 20/07/2026 12:00

LagerLady · 20/07/2026 11:58

We need the right to get back in to sort benefits and immigration.

Not the tax dodging megacorps ?

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 12:00

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 11:59

Well that's the assumption several have made. As I said, it's for another thread or one to contribute on when region pops up - again.

Come on, put your money where your mouth is. Why does Burnham being a (non-practising) RC make you wary?

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 12:01

LagerLady · 20/07/2026 11:53

The UK doesn't want socialism. If AB moves Labour to the left, he is doomed to lose the next election.

And he will be forced to the left by his back benches and the unions - whether he would choose it or not.

Friendlygingercat · 20/07/2026 12:01

Andy Burnham might be a nice personable chappy but he has no mandate from the electorate at large to be where he is. This country is supposed to be a democracy but he was elected by a few hundred MPs.

How is that democratic?

The entire process by which he gets to No 10 sounds like it is something from Trumptown.

kerstina · 20/07/2026 12:02

Yes I think he should and I am pretty certain he would win. Has he not just won a by election against reform? Hope not hate.

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:02

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 11:59

Well that's the assumption several have made. As I said, it's for another thread or one to contribute on when region pops up - again.

But apparently you didn't think it was an assumption for another thread when you unilaterally chose to bring it up. I'd like to hope you have an explanation that isn't bigoted, of course.

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 12:02

Friendlygingercat · 20/07/2026 12:01

Andy Burnham might be a nice personable chappy but he has no mandate from the electorate at large to be where he is. This country is supposed to be a democracy but he was elected by a few hundred MPs.

How is that democratic?

The entire process by which he gets to No 10 sounds like it is something from Trumptown.

Did you feel the same about Sunak?

SuziQuinto · 20/07/2026 12:03

Friendlygingercat · 20/07/2026 12:01

Andy Burnham might be a nice personable chappy but he has no mandate from the electorate at large to be where he is. This country is supposed to be a democracy but he was elected by a few hundred MPs.

How is that democratic?

The entire process by which he gets to No 10 sounds like it is something from Trumptown.

It's been explained. The leader of the Labour Party becomes the PM if they win and election. If the leader changes, the PM changes. This happened a few times during Conservative administrations.
The electorate don't vote for a Prime Minister.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:03

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:02

But apparently you didn't think it was an assumption for another thread when you unilaterally chose to bring it up. I'd like to hope you have an explanation that isn't bigoted, of course.

What thread?

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:05

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:03

What thread?

Whatever thread/s you now apparently think it's a subject for after choosing to bring it up on this one.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:05

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:05

Whatever thread/s you now apparently think it's a subject for after choosing to bring it up on this one.

Ah so you lied. Got it.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 12:06

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 11:54

Why did you use the word 'all' then? Do you think all Labour supporters did it, and if so how does that mean they had the power to set the scene? Or do you think all the people doing it were Labour? Because what you've written here is not like the rather mangled comment in the preceding post.

It's a lot of hole digging to back up a rather silly claim. Particularly when you could've just made the entirely reasonable point that it's annoying to see people who called for GEs when their party were in opposition suddenly change tune now.

It’s really not you just don’t want to hear it. Oh well Labour are feeling the brunt of SM now instead. Enjoy.

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:07

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:05

Ah so you lied. Got it.

Not at all, I hope you have an explanation that's not bigoted. I didn't say anything about whether I expected that.

Now, back to what you wrote and whether you're going to back it up or not.

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 12:08

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 11:59

Well that's the assumption several have made. As I said, it's for another thread or one to contribute on when region pops up - again.

You brought AB's religion into this discussion. Why are you shying away from elaborating on your reasons for doing so?

SuziQuinto · 20/07/2026 12:09

What is the problem with Andy Burnham having an RC background?

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 12:10

It appears no depths are too low. 🙁

LagerLady · 20/07/2026 12:12

I voted for a centrist Labour government led by KS. I want a GE, so I can vote for a centrist party.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 20/07/2026 12:12

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:05

Ah so you lied. Got it.

Why don't you just either say what you want to say on this thread, since you brought the subject of his religion up, or start a thread. If there isn't another one no one else clearly thought it was 'concerning' enough to start one.He will not be able to impose Catholic doctrine into law, because it doesn't matter what his religion is, or for that matter if he is practicing or non practicing. Wes Streeting is a practicing Christian, Rishi Sunak is a practicing Hindu, Shabana Mahmoud is a practicing Muslim.

SerendipityJane · 20/07/2026 12:13

Friendlygingercat · 20/07/2026 12:01

Andy Burnham might be a nice personable chappy but he has no mandate from the electorate at large to be where he is. This country is supposed to be a democracy but he was elected by a few hundred MPs.

How is that democratic?

The entire process by which he gets to No 10 sounds like it is something from Trumptown.

Why do you hate Britain ?

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:13

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 12:07

Not at all, I hope you have an explanation that's not bigoted. I didn't say anything about whether I expected that.

Now, back to what you wrote and whether you're going to back it up or not.

No, you said I chose to unilaterally post not will choose to. Don't try railroading me because to do that you're going to have to not rely on lies. There are motives for a non secular PM, should he choose to pursue them. Fortunately, there are protections around that.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 12:15

SerendipityJane · 20/07/2026 12:13

Why do you hate Britain ?

Bit of a leap.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 12:15

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 20/07/2026 12:12

Why don't you just either say what you want to say on this thread, since you brought the subject of his religion up, or start a thread. If there isn't another one no one else clearly thought it was 'concerning' enough to start one.He will not be able to impose Catholic doctrine into law, because it doesn't matter what his religion is, or for that matter if he is practicing or non practicing. Wes Streeting is a practicing Christian, Rishi Sunak is a practicing Hindu, Shabana Mahmoud is a practicing Muslim.

Yes I've just dome exactly that. However, I won't take lightly to somebody who lies about a thread I've posted on. Thank you.