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AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 00:56

To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

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5128gap · 21/07/2026 11:08

BermudaRhombus · 21/07/2026 11:03

It matters. His wife wearing a £900 dress for his arrival at Downing Street during a cost of living crisis is appalling optics.

Don't be daft. Do you think if she'd worn something from Primark we wouldn't have known that the Burnham's are high earners? You think a woman successful in her own right should have to pretend she can't afford an expensive dress to make us feel better? How incredibly patronising.
This is the kind barrel scraping criticism that makes it difficult to take any of the negativity seriously. Because if that's the best you've got, he hadn't done much wrong yet, has he?

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 11:16

BermudaRhombus · 21/07/2026 11:03

It matters. His wife wearing a £900 dress for his arrival at Downing Street during a cost of living crisis is appalling optics.

They can’t win, can they? His clothes get criticised because they’re too informal. Hers get criticised because she’s a professional woman who can afford to buy an expensive frock. What exactly should they wear?

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2026 11:16

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 11:03

Feel free to respond to any of my other posts.

Constructive debate always welcome.

Constructive as in posting gifs of lettuces, you mean? OK then. 🙄

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 11:19

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2026 11:16

Constructive as in posting gifs of lettuces, you mean? OK then. 🙄

Firstly, it’s abundantly clear that I am no fan of Labour, and I will criticise them at every opportunity.

Secondly, I like to try to introduce moments of levity.

I don’t plan on stopping, so if you dont like or agree with my posts, feel free to scroll on by.

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 11:20

Personally, I couldn’t give a toss what Burnham or his wife wears.

My focus is on his actions and policy.

Things that directly impact many of us.

BermudaRhombus · 21/07/2026 11:22

5128gap · 21/07/2026 11:08

Don't be daft. Do you think if she'd worn something from Primark we wouldn't have known that the Burnham's are high earners? You think a woman successful in her own right should have to pretend she can't afford an expensive dress to make us feel better? How incredibly patronising.
This is the kind barrel scraping criticism that makes it difficult to take any of the negativity seriously. Because if that's the best you've got, he hadn't done much wrong yet, has he?

It really does matter and needlessly provides ammunition to the opposition.

5128gap · 21/07/2026 11:24

BIossomtoes · 21/07/2026 11:16

They can’t win, can they? His clothes get criticised because they’re too informal. Hers get criticised because she’s a professional woman who can afford to buy an expensive frock. What exactly should they wear?

Perhaps a turqoise rosette? Tends to act like a charm, rendering its wearer beyond reproach, whatever they spend on themselves and wherever the money came from.

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 11:28

Darren Jones - who was perfectly happy to remove the 2-child cap without much consideration about how it would be funded.

What a knob.

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 11:36

BermudaRhombus · 21/07/2026 11:22

It really does matter and needlessly provides ammunition to the opposition.

Tbf the same attacked previous PMs spouses for dress and other.

5128gap · 21/07/2026 13:00

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 11:36

Tbf the same attacked previous PMs spouses for dress and other.

Who attacked previous PMs wives for their appearance? And more importantly, why does the answer to everything always have to be "But, but miss...they did it first..!!!"
Some of us don't think its OK to criticise women's appearance. Some people are fine with weaponising it as a cheap dig against their husbands. When the former encounter the latter they will generally speak up.

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 13:05

5128gap · 21/07/2026 13:00

Who attacked previous PMs wives for their appearance? And more importantly, why does the answer to everything always have to be "But, but miss...they did it first..!!!"
Some of us don't think its OK to criticise women's appearance. Some people are fine with weaponising it as a cheap dig against their husbands. When the former encounter the latter they will generally speak up.

Because I’m guessing you and others said nowt at the time.

And some against it now will have joined in then.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:07

It does happen and happened frequently under the Boris government. You might have good intentions but plenty more are hypocrites. I do agree the designer dress was tone deaf. I don't know why MN Labour voters don't just admit they are applying double standards. It was the same with Burnham's accent. To be honest, I sort of led with that.

Edited sorry @5128gap

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:10

In fact, I don't really care how Burnham speaks. That was lighthearted. I will judge him by his performance.

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 13:18

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:10

In fact, I don't really care how Burnham speaks. That was lighthearted. I will judge him by his performance.

I’m happy to do so and the dress thing doesn’t interest me that much. But there were vicious threads on here and probably elsewhere about Akshata Murty and Carrie Johnson.

Many of those posts will be from Labourites.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:21

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 13:18

I’m happy to do so and the dress thing doesn’t interest me that much. But there were vicious threads on here and probably elsewhere about Akshata Murty and Carrie Johnson.

Many of those posts will be from Labourites.

The Carrie comments were awful. As she's seen as posh, she's was an easy target.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 21/07/2026 13:31

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 08:12

Amounts involved are irrelevant. This was argued the case in Rayner's stamp duty evasion. It's the principle that matters.

I'm talking about Reform attempting to take the moral high ground re Haigh and Rayner. They can't, as they are funded by someone who went to prison for fraud.

5128gap · 21/07/2026 13:32

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 13:05

Because I’m guessing you and others said nowt at the time.

And some against it now will have joined in then.

Edited

You'd be guessing incorrectly then. I don't expect you to know my posting history. But I can assure you I dislike attacks on women's appearance intensely. I don't care what direction its coming from. Some things to me transcend childish left and right tit for tat. I've had exchanges with you that demonstrate I'm fair and will concede fault and favour where its due. I don't expect you to recall them, but I would expect you not to make blanket judgements about my consistency simply because I vote differently from you.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 21/07/2026 13:35

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 11:20

Personally, I couldn’t give a toss what Burnham or his wife wears.

My focus is on his actions and policy.

Things that directly impact many of us.

One of the problems with labour is their desperation to appear 'working class' Who cares about their great granny being in the workhouse? Most of them ( and their supporters and members) are solidly middle class, University educated in good jobs, earning well above the minimum wage. Burnhams wife, on one of the biggest days of her husbands life, wore an expensive dress. If shed pretended to be 'down with the people' it would have made no difference to the cost of living crisis. What will do is what Burnham does.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:37

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 21/07/2026 13:31

I'm talking about Reform attempting to take the moral high ground re Haigh and Rayner. They can't, as they are funded by someone who went to prison for fraud.

I hadn't realised Louise Haigh had been made Deputy PM. Burnham has cornered himself with that one. I don't think Reform can take the moral high ground but what on earth was Burnham thinking. I hope the support groups behind criminal records sieze this opportunity. Someone with a conditional discharge not only gets an appointment but deputy PM!

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:38

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 21/07/2026 13:35

One of the problems with labour is their desperation to appear 'working class' Who cares about their great granny being in the workhouse? Most of them ( and their supporters and members) are solidly middle class, University educated in good jobs, earning well above the minimum wage. Burnhams wife, on one of the biggest days of her husbands life, wore an expensive dress. If shed pretended to be 'down with the people' it would have made no difference to the cost of living crisis. What will do is what Burnham does.

The significance of that dress won't be forgotten.

Sherpaio · 21/07/2026 13:48

The tone of political debate is absolutely dismal. It’s tiring to hear the hyperbole and adversarial nonsense they spout. No one gives a measured, thoughtful and conciliatory response to anything - it’s all just “they’re totally shit and everything they do is wrong”. It’s time they all just grew up and actually tried to work together and compromise to make things better.

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 13:54

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 21/07/2026 13:35

One of the problems with labour is their desperation to appear 'working class' Who cares about their great granny being in the workhouse? Most of them ( and their supporters and members) are solidly middle class, University educated in good jobs, earning well above the minimum wage. Burnhams wife, on one of the biggest days of her husbands life, wore an expensive dress. If shed pretended to be 'down with the people' it would have made no difference to the cost of living crisis. What will do is what Burnham does.

Fair comment.

Conversely, I did notice that Rayner is now wearing specs (probably with clear/non prescription lenses), presumably an attempt to make herself appear more serious/academic.

I just thought you daft try hard.

It’s all bullshit isn’t it?

MaeshoweDragon · 21/07/2026 13:55

LuckyHazelFox · 21/07/2026 13:38

The significance of that dress won't be forgotten.

? The fact that she wore a dress from a London based designer, in London?

(Her shoes were "Office" - used to be called Office of London -too.)

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 13:56

Sherpaio · 21/07/2026 13:48

The tone of political debate is absolutely dismal. It’s tiring to hear the hyperbole and adversarial nonsense they spout. No one gives a measured, thoughtful and conciliatory response to anything - it’s all just “they’re totally shit and everything they do is wrong”. It’s time they all just grew up and actually tried to work together and compromise to make things better.

Sorry, but quite a few of us have been battered during the past two years, so perhaps you can forgive us our trespasses.

We are SME owners, PS parents, farmers, net contributors - you know, that kind of thing…

Sherpaio · 21/07/2026 13:58

CagneyLacey · 21/07/2026 13:56

Sorry, but quite a few of us have been battered during the past two years, so perhaps you can forgive us our trespasses.

We are SME owners, PS parents, farmers, net contributors - you know, that kind of thing…

I wasn’t referring to voters, I was referring to politicians. Badenoch’s response to the VAT policy was a case in point - oh it’s falling apart already, it’s all a load of shit, instead of it’s a step in the right direction, doesn’t go far enough, we’re concerned about how it’s costed, we could think about this, this, and this.

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