AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

They most definitely do, you just need some lateral thinking to see it.

No surprise Lammy's gone.

Also my guess. The difficulty Reform have is there's as yet no evidence of widespread tactical voting in their part of the right. That's not to say it couldn't start happening in the next 3 years, but equally there's no guarantee they'd be the ones who'd benefit if it did.

You say that, and you may well be right.

You can over intellectualise politics however, and Reform’s core voters could prove sticky. If a significant number are willing to hold their noses, what does that say about the level of Labours (un)popularity?

That would prove pretty telling.

Does he know where he’s gone? He has a habit of losing people, after all.

Will you stop it 😆 🤣

Reeves has gone.

This is true. Other than by their supporters, Reform are loathed and seen as the worst possible option. Not just around their policies, but also because they're inexperienced, incompetent and a bunch of wrong uns. I think tactical voting will only be used to harm not benefit Reform.

Context shouldn’t make it this difficult for you. I didn’t think it was that hard to get given I cited mn and btl media which are clearly not the Labour party.

And you’re missing the huge amounts of criticism aimed at the last gov including on here. You’re getting similar now and don’t like it. But thought it ok then. Reap what you sow etc

Oh wow. I mean ik it was coming but still to see it in writing.

Sorry….

I’m just a little cheerier today….

She's expressed no interest in further roles.

To every young woman and girl let my time in office show there should be no ceilings on your ambitions, your hopes or your dreams.

JFC, does this person have one ounce of self-awareness???

No you carry on !

It will be like brexit if he does and won’t go the way he thinks.

You mean if significant numbers of Reform voters will hold their noses and vote Tory to keep Labour out? Yes, I think that's quite possible. Less likely the other way round though perhaps. As Conservatives seem as deeply troubled by the incompetence and criminality of Reform as everyone else. Sometimes it goes beyond ideological distance and people look at things like the mess Reform are making in the councils. The arrests. The links with extremists. The fraud. Conservative voters don't want these things.

No further roles have expressed interest in Reeves.

There, fixed it.

You're according MN far too much importance, although in fairness you didn't actually say that in the first place and only tried to make it about MN once you'd begun the goalpost moving process. MN and BTL are two small parts of the wider internet landscape.

Labour did not set the scene for current opposition calls for a GE. There is no possible way to construct that phrase that also gives them the necessary level of influence on social media as well as accepts the fact that opposition parties were doing it under Brown. It cannot be done.

And lastly, you don't know what my politics are. I'm a floating voter, but you don't know which ways I've floated in which elections. Whereas you, on the other hand, are partisan. Which is why you were daft enough to make such a broad claim about Labour's influence in the first place.

Yes that's about right. Pride I suppose.

Reeves has proven the only limit to her success was her own incompetence.

Sometimes I struggle to believe that the last two years wasn’t one giant bloody nightmare, honestly.

Well, she has a point. I grew up as a girl under Margaret Thatcher, and love her or loathe her, it was never a question in my mind that a woman couldn't be prime minister, if she had the ambition or aptitude for it!

I think you’re focusing too much on the opposition calling for an election. I’m talking about the broader criticism via SM which benefited Labour. Supporters were happy to use it and now don’t like it back.

It is feeling like that.

The past centre right lot seem to have gone all People's Front of Judea. I know Reform wouldn't have won Makerfield anyway, but it did surprise me that Restore decided to contest it when it couldn't be ruled out that vote splitting would hand the seat to Burnham. It was quite a contrast to the Workers Party explicitly standing aside in favour of the Greens in Gorton and Denton.