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DH made our son's hospital situation worse? Now we have a safeguarding referral!

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ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 18:31

DH and I have three children. Our eldest turns 4 in August. When he was just 6 months old he had a stroke. It was the most terrifying thing we've ever been through.
Thankfully, because he was so young he's recovered amazingly well. Most people wouldn't even know he does have a disability. It’s hidden and we have to advocate for him while he’s still so young. I worry for much the funny thing is I know by the time he’s a teenager he’ll tell me off for worrying so much.

However, it's taken years of hard work to get him where he is. Six mornings a week either I or DH gets up with him first thing to do 45 minutes of physiotherapy before breakfast because that's when he's in the best mood. He naturally favours one hand because of the stroke, so we're constantly encouraging him to use his weaker hand.

He also has regular appointments with specialists and therapists. Childhood stroke is quite rare so we've been fortunate enough to be under some fantastic specialists. DH has even been on a rehabilitation retreat with him to the Lake District etc.

Last week I took him to London for Botox treatment in his weaker hand to help with the muscle tightness. Medical Botox used to help improve function, not anything cosmetic. Unfortunately something didn't go to plan during the procedure. He's okay, but we've now been told we have to wait around three months to see what the outcome will be.
I can't explain how upsetting that's been. We've worked so hard over the last few years to give him every possible chance, and all we want is for him to be able to do everything other children can. I know I'm probably an over-worrier and one day he'll probably be a teenager telling me I worried too much, but right now I can't help it. I've cried most evenings since it happened because I keep thinking about the "what ifs", even though deep down I know he'll most likely be okay.

DH has been just as upset but his reaction was very different. He went back to the hospital to speak to the department involved and completely lost his temper. He shouted, swore and made threats in the heat of the moment. I understand why he was so angry because this is our child but I also think it crossed a line.

We had intended to make a formal complaint about how our son's treatment was handled. Instead, the hospital have now made a complaint about DH's behaviour. They've referred the situation to the safeguarding team and we have someone coming to visit our home and speak to us. They've also said they're concerned about the impact all of this has had on me because I've been so upset & DH mentioned my mental health too.

The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son. I’ve had to take time off work as I am constantly worried, DH will need to take time off work too. It’s all too much for the both of us if I’m being honest.

I honestly feel like everything has spiralled. We've spent years doing everything we possibly can for our son. Our whole lives revolve around his appointments, therapy and helping him reach his potential. Now it feels like the focus has shifted away from what happened to him and onto us.

AIBU to think DH's reaction, although completely understandable as a frightened and angry parent, has probably made the whole situation much worse?

Has anyone else ever had a safeguarding referral after a parent lost their temper with hospital staff?

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/07/2026 19:36

Tonty · 19/07/2026 19:33

I think you've missed the part where OP said a recent medical botox treatment went wrong and the professionals are unable to say exactly what the final outcome of that will be on their son's condition. This is what's making them VERY angry and what made DH lose his rag.

I haven’t missed that at all, I was referring to OP still being so angry about the stroke happening in the first place. As I’ve explained a few times I think they’d both benefit from counselling to help them process the trauma that started years ago.

SummerPeonies2026 · 19/07/2026 19:36

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:04

Are we not allowed to be angry about our child having a disability and having to learn ways to advocate for him in different settings? It’s affected a lot of our choices ie prep school, our other children who we love very much. They love doing all the things their big brother does, little do they know their brother HAS to do all those things it’s not just for fun.

I guess we are just intense then I think we will always be very hurt having seen what our son has endured and continues to recover from. I haven’t put every little detail as I don’t feel I need to nor do I feel I need to justify my anger or need to just get over it as if it’s something that will just go away.

Op you didn’t answer the question. Is he normally like this? Or sometimes like this? Or never?

ShetlandishMum · 19/07/2026 19:36

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:35

We will see how the referral goes and what steps they require us to take next. We haven’t had anything like this before and for what it’s worth we love our children so much. It’s a shame what has happened but we are trying to navigate it the best that we can. He does regret how he’s acted that was never his intention (his words) but that’s how he acted so we have to deal with the consequences.

I would upfront arrange councelling. Your husband needs it.

Kirbert2 · 19/07/2026 19:37

Twinkylightsg · 19/07/2026 19:32

Honestly I think it is easy for people to read this post and say your OH has been way out of line and berate him and make him seem worse then he is.

I do think he has crossed a line, he honestly probably knows himself.

Having said that. No one can imagine what you and your OH have had to go through as parents. This is such a hard and sad situation and you are both putting in so much work to help your son get better. So when you are living this day in and out and working so hard to help him, and as a doctor see another medical professional mess it up I can imagine it all came down for your husband and he reacted poorly but I honestly think he must be at his wits end too and felt helpless in that moment and upset for you and his child and couldn't control his emotions and let it out. It's not OK but I can understand how it has happened.

I wouldn't worry about the visit. Both just cooperate and explain it. I am sure they could understand your OH is human afterall and we all have faults at times. If this is way out of character for him they will see this as you guys explain your situation.

I'm sorry OP that you have to go through this. You both sound like you are doing your best and your child is lucky to have you both.

Do you think no one else on this thread has gone through something similar?

You can be firm and upset and advocate for your child without abusing staff.

ffsmyheadhurts · 19/07/2026 19:37

ffsmyheadhurts · 19/07/2026 19:36

I recognise this story from your TikTok profile. If this is a genuine post, you need to be honest with the safeguarding investigations and explain that this is because of stress.

Starting to think it’s not genuine because the TikTok poster’s husband isn’t a doctor…

Rufusisturnedon · 19/07/2026 19:37

It’s unacceptable completely but I get why his outburst happened. I’d imagine stress and worry from years of care for your son boiled over and in that moment, the hospital staff were in firing line. I’m glad it wasn’t you or this would be hidden.

We are all allowed to be angry. That’s fine. It’s how we express it and if someone else is impacted how we respond/ rectify it.

Taking responsibility, apologies perhaps in writing, addressing anger in therapy, seeking and engaging in the support that safe guarding might be able to bring.

that’s what I’d care about right now. Not that he did it - clearly not condoning his behaviour but it happens and it’s done now.

Happytaytos · 19/07/2026 19:37

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:33

Maybe so we will just have to see how it all goes. I’m not going to sit here and say I agree with his actions I don’t but it’s happened that’s how he chose to act all we can do is see how this goes and be cooperative. We aren’t here to argue with them

No you definitely shouldn't argue with them, but you can say that your H was wrong to do what he did. You can say that you're seeking counselling to work on issues related to your DSs disability.

You did say in your OP this isn't the first time he's reacted like this to medical professionals. Did the others make a referral?

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:39

ShetlandishMum · 19/07/2026 19:33

She needs to focus on and understanding her husband's need for therapy if they are to appear as a team in front of the social worker. He has done this more than one time. The hospital is right to take action to protect staff.

This is his ‘first offence’ it’s not as though it’s a reoccurring theme since we’ve had to go to these appointments with our son. He is 3 turning 4 so we will just have to see how it goes. We are trying to to navigate it as best as we can neither of us are happy that is what it’s come to but what can we do between not and next week ? We know that we love our children, our children know that they’re very loved, there’s never been any issues so we just have to take it as it comes and see how best to work through this together as a team and as parents.

OP posts:
merrymelody · 19/07/2026 19:40

My DD had a stroke post-op. She had to have neurosurgery in an attempt to stop her seizures. I was the one who spotted the stroke, even though she was in the ICU. I went ballistic so I understand how terrifying this kind of situation is for parents. The anger comes from frustration, fear and - let’s be honest - the fact that a professional made a mistake with drastic consequences. I don’t blame either of you in the slightest.

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:42

Happytaytos · 19/07/2026 19:37

No you definitely shouldn't argue with them, but you can say that your H was wrong to do what he did. You can say that you're seeking counselling to work on issues related to your DSs disability.

You did say in your OP this isn't the first time he's reacted like this to medical professionals. Did the others make a referral?

He hasn’t acted like this before ?
He is very passionate about negligence which is why he decided to study medicine because his brother passed away due to nhs negligence and it was a whole ordeal when they were little. This was a very long time ago now.

OP posts:
Smartiepants79 · 19/07/2026 19:43

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:04

Are we not allowed to be angry about our child having a disability and having to learn ways to advocate for him in different settings? It’s affected a lot of our choices ie prep school, our other children who we love very much. They love doing all the things their big brother does, little do they know their brother HAS to do all those things it’s not just for fun.

I guess we are just intense then I think we will always be very hurt having seen what our son has endured and continues to recover from. I haven’t put every little detail as I don’t feel I need to nor do I feel I need to justify my anger or need to just get over it as if it’s something that will just go away.

What or who are you angry at?? Did the stroke occur due to negligence? Could it have been prevented? Is someone to blame? Strong emotions about this are to be expected but anger seems a rather pointless one if no one is to blame.
I do understand to a point- my Dd was diagnosed with quite serious epilepsy at the age of 12. It has been life altering and has meant so many of our dreams and expectations for her have had to be altered. There are many average things she may never get to do and many things that are much harder for her. It does make me very sad. But I am not angry -who is there to be angry at?? It would be pointless.
I put all my energy into supporting her and doing what we can to make her life work that way it actually is rather than the way we wished it would be.
Your DH has been very foolish and made a difficult situation a whole lot worse. Get you both some help to deal with your trauma. It’s only going to keep backfiring otherwise.

Kirbert2 · 19/07/2026 19:43

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:42

He hasn’t acted like this before ?
He is very passionate about negligence which is why he decided to study medicine because his brother passed away due to nhs negligence and it was a whole ordeal when they were little. This was a very long time ago now.

pp's are referring to this in your OP.

''The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.''

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/07/2026 19:43

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:42

He hasn’t acted like this before ?
He is very passionate about negligence which is why he decided to study medicine because his brother passed away due to nhs negligence and it was a whole ordeal when they were little. This was a very long time ago now.

I think people misread your OP when you said he has acted this way at other specialists

noscotlandnoparty · 19/07/2026 19:43

Ex Child Protection specialist here.

Providing all things are equal (i.e the safeguarding social workers are competent and professional) then you have nothing to worry about. As others have said, be honest, lay it all out, apologise and be frank about your frustration re the agonising turn of events (the mess-up in procedure) that has set you both over the edge. If you are honest and transparent, they will recognise this and it (should) be an opportunity to put in supports from their service to help you.

You've a lot on your plate, not least the needs of your other 2 children. Your husband's anger should not be explained away (and I know there is a temptation to do this). You are both angry that the procedure went wrong, and do pursue a formal complain about this, but never justify or defend a threatening outburst.

Just be honest.

It should be an opportunity to put in the supports that you desperately need - there are all sorts of resources that your children can benefit from, so it may well be a very valuable turning point. As for the safeguarding element, I would say try not to worry. Your husband needs to sincerely apologise (to the poor people who dealt with his outburst) and assure that will never ever happen again. I always say, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide. Trained, experienced safe-guarding professionals will recognise this. Work with them and not against them.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/07/2026 19:44

Kirbert2 · 19/07/2026 19:43

pp's are referring to this in your OP.

''The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.''

Agreed, but I think she meant at other doctors because he’s a doctor, rather than he’s done it on other occasions

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:44

Smartiepants79 · 19/07/2026 19:43

What or who are you angry at?? Did the stroke occur due to negligence? Could it have been prevented? Is someone to blame? Strong emotions about this are to be expected but anger seems a rather pointless one if no one is to blame.
I do understand to a point- my Dd was diagnosed with quite serious epilepsy at the age of 12. It has been life altering and has meant so many of our dreams and expectations for her have had to be altered. There are many average things she may never get to do and many things that are much harder for her. It does make me very sad. But I am not angry -who is there to be angry at?? It would be pointless.
I put all my energy into supporting her and doing what we can to make her life work that way it actually is rather than the way we wished it would be.
Your DH has been very foolish and made a difficult situation a whole lot worse. Get you both some help to deal with your trauma. It’s only going to keep backfiring otherwise.

Maybe it’s pointless I don’t think so but others are allowed their own opinion

OP posts:
ShetlandishMum · 19/07/2026 19:45

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:39

This is his ‘first offence’ it’s not as though it’s a reoccurring theme since we’ve had to go to these appointments with our son. He is 3 turning 4 so we will just have to see how it goes. We are trying to to navigate it as best as we can neither of us are happy that is what it’s come to but what can we do between not and next week ? We know that we love our children, our children know that they’re very loved, there’s never been any issues so we just have to take it as it comes and see how best to work through this together as a team and as parents.

The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.

Right, so he is not abusing staff - or?

Crazybigtoe · 19/07/2026 19:45

So you were at the appointment. Your husband wasn't. And it was only after you got home that your Dr husband noticed a problem?

That's a lot to process.

Your husband shouldnt need to supervise to ensure the procedure is carried out correctly. You, as a parent, shouldnt need medical expertise to supervise them either.

I can imagine how infuriating that must be for all. I know you aren't justifying his reaction. I wish you son well on his recovery.

Happytaytos · 19/07/2026 19:45

The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.

You literally said he's acted like this before.

Your Hs history with his brother have come to the surface. He needs to control his emotion.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/07/2026 19:46

Happytaytos · 19/07/2026 19:45

The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.

You literally said he's acted like this before.

Your Hs history with his brother have come to the surface. He needs to control his emotion.

I think you’ve misread it. She stated that he’s a doctor and so has acted this way at his peers

Astrabees · 19/07/2026 19:46

The hospital messed up and harmed a vulnerable child who is fighting hard to recover from the stroke, I'd take legal advice and sue the arse off them. NHS is a sacred cow on MN. If the staff he swore at were the ones responsible my view is they deserved it, all you get otherwise is a milksop apology and "lessons have been learned" when they almost certainly have not. I hope his words and actions have the desired effect, just say "sorry it won't happen again" to SS even if you don't mean it.

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:46

ShetlandishMum · 19/07/2026 19:45

The funny thing in all of this is that DH is a doctor too and has acted this way at other specialists who are trying their best to help our son.

Right, so he is not abusing staff - or?

I think that’s my fault. I didn’t explain it well. I meant that he has had to deal with this from patients and their families as he’s a medic too so it’s ironic that he chose to act that way.

OP posts:
Happytaytos · 19/07/2026 19:46

ForAvidTraybake · 19/07/2026 19:44

Maybe it’s pointless I don’t think so but others are allowed their own opinion

Being angry is pointless. What does it achieve? In this case it's worse than pointless, it's become harmful. If you are still angry about your boys initial stroke and comparing him to other children, you need proper support.

ffsmyheadhurts · 19/07/2026 19:46

Astrabees · 19/07/2026 19:46

The hospital messed up and harmed a vulnerable child who is fighting hard to recover from the stroke, I'd take legal advice and sue the arse off them. NHS is a sacred cow on MN. If the staff he swore at were the ones responsible my view is they deserved it, all you get otherwise is a milksop apology and "lessons have been learned" when they almost certainly have not. I hope his words and actions have the desired effect, just say "sorry it won't happen again" to SS even if you don't mean it.

It going wrong is a stated risk which you consent to.

OP has copied the story of “oliviaclairem” on TikTok.

ShetlandishMum · 19/07/2026 19:47

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/07/2026 19:44

Agreed, but I think she meant at other doctors because he’s a doctor, rather than he’s done it on other occasions

Abuse is abuse.

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