To think it's time to leave the ECHR?

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www.thejc.com/news/uk/gazan-family-refugee-status-asylum-rejection-gwsq2c8b

As have I. A few right wing news sources with exactly the same report and not a single confirmation from the U.K. court’s database.

Where is the source that says the family is “safe” in Egypt and all 18 are non English speakers?

It is in domestic legislation, and the ‘court’ in ECHR is a domestic court in the UK

Why so angry at someone from India? It really is separate to how many Gazans we can take for asylum.

Who said you couldn’t express an opinion. ‘Legal right’ 😂

I am the daughter of brown hard-working immigrants. My mum and dad both worked from the 1960s till they retired. I am proud of them both, esp my mum. I love the UK, as do they. I was born here and don’t want to live anywhere else.

But hypocritical immigrants who benefitted from the UK and now want to pull the ladder up, make me cringe a lot. I see them IRL too.

Ahh yes, that great British celebration of Diwali.

Are you suggesting there aren’t areas of towns and cities which are almost exclusively Indian communities?

As always, this is about keeping all the rights for yourself and take them away from the people you don't like.

Now which one would people like to give up?

That’s the point.

Who qualifies as family? who is dependent on you?

I could see how my siblings, as children, could be dependent on me, but once they are grown up and have their own families then they don’t qualify anymore.

If someone wants their whole street to join them, then who pays for that?

The war in Gaza is over.

It really isn’t. Someone who has benefitted from our generosity in welcoming immigrants, something the UK has done for centuries, telling me I should be against welcoming refugees is pretty hypocritical, no?

I doubt this conflict will ever be over.

The war is over now.

So you didn't use the NHS or state schools? You didn't use electricity, water or gas, travel on public roads, use public transport, fly out of an airport? You never called upon the police for help? Never got a library card? Never enrolled your children into sports clubs or took them to a swimming pool? You just sat at home, raising your children and living your life without recourse to any of the infrastructure that taxpayers have paid for. And not working either, so not contributing. Marvellous.

The ceasefire is being violated on a daily basis. Read/watch the news

It’s entirely separate as a system.
On being welcome how many refugees do you want to welcome from Gaza? Is it just the extended family in the op or should we take more Gazans?

Tell that to these people. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqj1jqeyl5ro

Plenty of families are co-dependent. My elderly parents looked after my grandmother, and they were dependent on all my siblings. If I were forced to flee my country, which one of them would I leave behind?

The whataboutery of the “whole street” is ridiculous.

This woman was also allowed by the home office.

And we've established that you do indeed utilise the benefits of taxpayers money in certain capacities as a sahm who is not contributing to taxes. Not that I think there's anything wrong with that - I just think it's crazy you want to pull the bridge up behind you for more vulnerable people.

But there is a ceasefire. There is no all out war.

Surely, we can just ignore the bits about migrant rights, like the Danes do?

18 people, at least 4 houses, is a small cul de sac.

If that's a genocide, it has been remarkably ineffective.

The war is not over as long as the ceasefire is being breached.

You look at Gaza and think people are safe there? You have a problem with 18 people coming to the UK?

Completely relevant as they have or will soon have thriving careers. Again we never took a penny of welfare.

It is all about immigration. Picking and choosing which route we have set out in law is ok for us to welcome makes a mockery of the system. Saying “that immigrant is ok, but this one isn’t” simply because of why they have come here is laughable, particularly from someone who continues to enjoy the services our government provides for all citizens - healthcare, education, infrastructure etc.

There are about a million displaced Gazans in Palestine. A tiny number of them want to seek asylum here. I’m happy for them to do so.

You’re ok with the children who make up part of that 18 number to come here then? And the working age adults, who for all you know will be well capable of working?

You're a migrant non-taxpayer.

I know it will be difficult to stretch your imagination, but indulge me. What if these family members learn English. What if these family members make dedicated efforts to get UK qualifications (education is highly prized in Gaza). What if these family members then get jobs and start paying tax. What if, as a result of the support the UK initially gave, they become high earners, paying lots of tax and supporting the community through, say, being doctors, or teachers.

Why, then they'll be no different to your children and husband. Different to you, of course, because you don't work and don't pay employment taxes.

You know what their living arrangements will be? Jeez oh, the amount of inside information people have on this family is incredible.