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To think 30 is middle

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Middleaged77 · 14/07/2026 14:50

And the denial within society isn’t helpful

OP posts:
Loulou4022 · 15/07/2026 09:35

I’m assuming you mean age? I come from
a line of well aged women my maternal nan passed at 102 and my paternal nan is 101 and still going so by that I won’t be middle aged until 51!!!! Tbh I see middle age as being a length of time but I’d say more 50-60 certainly not 30!! I’m 46 and don’t feel middle aged!!

Myotherusernamesafunnyone · 15/07/2026 10:27

MajorProcrastination · 15/07/2026 09:31

I've replied with links to evidence for why your statement that 30 is middle aged is wrong which you appear to have ignored as you continue to double down.

In my family, the majority of my granparents and greatgrandparents have died in their 90s. But I would never conflate that with national or societal norms. So let's look at the stats for the UK for life expectancy from the highest to the lowest: 81 (men) or 85 (women) in London and 78 (men) or 82 (women) in the North East.

Mortality profile: statistical commentary May 2026 - GOV.UK

But as stated in my previous ignored posts, middle-aged doesn't mean the exact age your at when your equidistant from your birth and your death. My best mate died in her 30s, that doesn't mean she was middle-aged when we were teenagers.

It's just the period of life between childhood & young adulthood and older-age. This massively varies depending on culture and individual experience. One of my friends identifies as middle-aged but she lives like a granny, she'd never wear the same clothes I do or go to some of the events and holidays I enjoy. That's nothing to do with her age or the age of our children but our own personal life choices.

For the record: you are wrong. You're not open to learning from people explaining why your thinking is flawed. I believe that you're probably a rage baiting attention seeker at this point.

Also: your daughter is 22, she's not a baby. Perhaps she's looking for a more mature (BUT NOT MIDDLE-AGED!) partner because she can't rely on her parent to be mature to recognise when she's got something wrong.

p.s. you're wrong

Brilliant logical well argued post completely wasted on this OP!

lemmein · 15/07/2026 10:41

My daughter is 30 this year - there is no way anyone could consider her middle-aged.

I’d say middle starts around 40ish.

It’s the life stage between young adulthood & senior years - it’s not just the halfway point of life expectancy….but even then it wouldn’t be 30!

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 15/07/2026 10:47

Middleaged77 · 14/07/2026 14:50

And the denial within society isn’t helpful

So by that logic I’d be deid as I’m 60 if we’re talking age here

mind saying that my Aunt is 99 and still at home with her two daughters and still giving them a run for thier money and me too cos I visit often and she’s still baking and cooking and cleaning her kitchen floor too so I’ll aspire to her thanks bless her

RetiredFromExplaining · 15/07/2026 10:56

Another2Cats · 14/07/2026 20:12

"In Paris. It was terrific. He was definitely older than middle aged."

That does sound so much like the plot of the 1972 film 'Last Tango in Paris' with Marlon Brando (then aged 48) and a young actress by the name of Maria Schneider.

Although I do sincerely hope that your relationship ended a lot better than the film relationship did!!

He was a much older flirty friend who offered to take me to Paris for a weekend about six months after my DH left me for my best friend. We saw all the sites, ate amazing food and had terrific sex.

We continued a very casual relationship for about a year and I then moved away and we lost touch. I think of him fondly.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/07/2026 10:57

Middleaged77 · 14/07/2026 14:50

And the denial within society isn’t helpful

Not at all. It's still young. Mid 40s maybe.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 15/07/2026 11:02

So because everyone thought you were batshit on your other thread, you thought you'd ask the same question again?! 😂

You're still batshit. But in only 7 years, you'll be the mother of a middle-aged woman.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 15/07/2026 14:39

Trento · 14/07/2026 23:57

Maybe, maybe not. Who really cares? There’s too much of this putting of people into boxes.

That said, I’ve always view middle aged as being early 40s to 70.

Ooh that makes me feel better about reaching 70, which I've always viewed as old.

My lovely late grandma was very young at heart (although not literally unfortunately as she had angina), and always said how she still felt a 20-something in her mind and attitude. She was described as a "game old bird" by someone once, which was definitely true too.

Being older doesn't equate to older mindset. I've got to say, my grandma definitely had the right attitude. OTOH, my MIL has always seemed old, even when she wasn't. I think it's more likely to do with dress style, attitudes, point of views etc in her case. My mum couldn't be any more different to her, at the same age, and is more outgoing and trendy than me.😳😅

PrettyLittleRose · 15/07/2026 18:03

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 15/07/2026 14:39

Ooh that makes me feel better about reaching 70, which I've always viewed as old.

My lovely late grandma was very young at heart (although not literally unfortunately as she had angina), and always said how she still felt a 20-something in her mind and attitude. She was described as a "game old bird" by someone once, which was definitely true too.

Being older doesn't equate to older mindset. I've got to say, my grandma definitely had the right attitude. OTOH, my MIL has always seemed old, even when she wasn't. I think it's more likely to do with dress style, attitudes, point of views etc in her case. My mum couldn't be any more different to her, at the same age, and is more outgoing and trendy than me.😳😅

To be fair, saying 70 is middle aged is as daft as saying 30 is.

VoteForCountBinface · 15/07/2026 20:35

PrettyLittleRose · 15/07/2026 18:03

To be fair, saying 70 is middle aged is as daft as saying 30 is.

Many 70 year olds now are fit and sprightly and people are working until they are 67, some older.

Lesley Manville, Kim Cattrall, Jennifer Saunders, Richard Curtis, Ian Hislop, Frank Skinner... are not exactly 'elderly' yet are they.

BruFord · 15/07/2026 23:27

VoteForCountBinface · 15/07/2026 20:35

Many 70 year olds now are fit and sprightly and people are working until they are 67, some older.

Lesley Manville, Kim Cattrall, Jennifer Saunders, Richard Curtis, Ian Hislop, Frank Skinner... are not exactly 'elderly' yet are they.

@VoteForCountBinface Yes, more people are living longer and better, my Dad (nearly 90 now) was very sprightly at 70.

But 50's/60's are still sniper's alley health-wise. I know people in my age group IRL who've developed cancer or other chronic diseases out of the blue. One of my friends lost her battle with cancer earlier this year at 53. She was a fit and active person until it struck. Another friend (also early 50's) has developed MS.

70 definitely isn't middle age yet, perhaps it will be in the future if most people start living to 100-plus, but not yet.

Dillydollydingdong · 17/07/2026 19:03

Jennifer Saunders, Ian Hislop and Frank Skinner aren't exactly working though, are they? Prancing around on TV and getting paid Megabucks - no wonder they don't want to retire. It might be different if they were cashiering in Tesco, driving a bus or bricklaying!

VoteForCountBinface · 17/07/2026 19:15

@Dillydollydingdong , not sure what your point is there. They aren't 'prancing around on TV'.

PrettyLittleRose · 17/07/2026 19:17

VoteForCountBinface · 15/07/2026 20:35

Many 70 year olds now are fit and sprightly and people are working until they are 67, some older.

Lesley Manville, Kim Cattrall, Jennifer Saunders, Richard Curtis, Ian Hislop, Frank Skinner... are not exactly 'elderly' yet are they.

They may not be 'exactly elderly,' but they are not exactly middle aged either. Not sure what your point is about those celebrities. So what if they're fairly fit and sprightly (apparently, you don't know for sure!) That doesn't mean other 66-70 year olds are. Nor does it make 70 middle aged.

Also, they all look their age. The only one who looks a bit younger - maybe 5 years younger is Jennifer Saunders. Most pictures I found of Lesley Manville are airbrushed, but overall she pretty much looks her age. Why wouldn't she? Everyone does, within 5-6 years...

Also, they are all rich and privileged celebrities, so the comparison is silly.

PrettyLittleRose · 17/07/2026 19:19

Dillydollydingdong · 17/07/2026 19:03

Jennifer Saunders, Ian Hislop and Frank Skinner aren't exactly working though, are they? Prancing around on TV and getting paid Megabucks - no wonder they don't want to retire. It might be different if they were cashiering in Tesco, driving a bus or bricklaying!

Exactly. It's ludicrous to compare a rich and privileged celebrity who has been rich and famous for some 3 or 4 decades or more, to ordinary people.

VoteForCountBinface · 17/07/2026 19:39

@PrettyLittleRose , they are rich and famous because they're talented.
I agree that it's pushing it to say they're middle-aged but given that retirement age is 66 and rising, they aren't exactly elderly either.

TaleOfTwoHalves · 23/07/2026 19:04

PrettyLittleRose · 14/07/2026 21:02

I'm in my early 50s, and certainly do NOT feel washed up.

Maybe you should see your GP if you feel this way at such a young age as 37.

@PrettyLittleRose

And say what? Hi doc, I’ve had a bit of a hard life, not much help, and multiple kids by the age of 26. I’m currently 37 and feeling pretty fat, tired and washed up?? I did an OU degree that’s probably useless, and can’t get work experience in a new field so I’m stuck caring for others at work which is also a bit of a drag. Excuse me for not feeling that vibrant.

No. That would be ridiculous. I’m just living with my choices that’s all. Happy for you though.

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