To stick to the hosepipe ban …

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… and to think that people who don’t are selfish with no consideration of the overall good of society.

I find the replies on tjis thread unbelievable. They result of not paying for usage at the point of use has developed a selfish entitled attitude in a significant minority. Clean safe inexpensive water is a precious resource that the millions of humans don't have. Yet people are prepared to fill paddling pools and water lawns when the supply companies are saying there is extreme pressure on the system. Those confidently saying we won't run out of water are wrong. We can run out of water. We nearly did before and we are in unprecedented climate change that impacts on water supplies.
The sooner all water use is metered the better. The reason we don't is on public health grounds so water isn't rationed to lower income households, water being a basic public health requirement. But we have disconnected so far from recognising common good to blaming our poor actions on other's poor action (water companies) that we are going to need to meter supplies.

Thankfully we didn’t get a ban last year and haven’t this year. Perhaps you should be cutting down voluntarily then, we are using the hose (no ban) but I’ve never used my bath, and no way am I washing clothes after every wear unless dirty (apart from pants and sock) and sheets are every 2 weeks anyway. We have very low usage based on our meter

Cool beans 👍🏻

What has whether you have a ban or not got anything to with the fact that petulantly posting that all the posts about water shortages and our responsibility to not waste a finite resource has only convinced you not to comply with requests to protect that resource make you sound like a whiny child? And a selfish one at that?

I said this on the other hosepipe ban thread but is anyone ever actually fined for breeching it? How would they ever know someone had used one?

I never water my lawn i tried desperately to grow clover instead of grass but it never takes i know the grass will green up as soon as it rains the only plants im watering are my sons fushia and my thyme which seems to be struggling

If the op wanted to convince people her lecturing tone while using more water than others for stables etc isn’t doing that.

Apparently there has never been a fine for breaching it.

No, they have not, at least not in my region.

They would only know if someone informed on you - bit risky for the informant given company’s propensity to share data….

Yep, kinda backfired on them.

This is what we do. We use the watering can but put the hose straight into the watering can so it doesn’t run out.

Livestock care is exempt for good reason. Animal welfare needs to be maintained because neglect is cruel.

She isn't using more water than anyone else at home and is obeying the hosepipe ban because she knows how limited water is. So I really don't understand why you have an issue with her using the water she needs to look after her animals, as she is permitted to do.

When the content of the lecture is correct and worrying and you are only deliberately doing the opposite of what is advised just because you don't like the tone that is literally the definition of petulance. It's what children do to piss their parents off. Grow up.

I didn’t read this except the last two words which I’ll say back at you. Grow up.

What?

I have not seen any poster begrudging the use of water for animal welfare. The OP introduced the ‘fact’ that they had animals late in the thread, rather conveniently.

What many of us don’t like is the lecturing coupled with the hypocrisy. You may want to consider that yourself, before adopting such an air of superiority.

If the op and pp want to persuade people their method does the opposite.

There is no hypocrisy as I am following the hose pipe ban

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The content of the lecture is very much not correct. I asked the OP if their sole focus is the hosepipe when it comes to sensible water usage, or whether they are in general as cautious with this precious resource as I am, giving examples of how I do that. The OP ignored the question and was sarcastic, making a silly comment about my post using long words. Turns out they’re hosing down stables and henhouses, but then sanctimoniously (long word alert) use a watering can in the garden.

Livestock is correctly exempt but the point is the adherence or not to a hosepipe ban means precisely nothing about someone’s water consumption or, in fact, their emotional maturity (!)

People could let their gardens dry to a crisp, but have long soaks in the bathtub every single night. They could be mindlessly washing their dishes leaving the tap on for ages. They could be running their washing machines twice daily just with a pair of socks in it.

The sanctimony of not using a hosepipe means precisely nothing about how conscious one is when it comes to water consumption as there’s a million other ways to waste endless litres of water in the privacy of your home.

The OP was deliberately playing stupid when it came to this argument and continued focusing solely on the hosepipe thing, because they knew that they consume loads more water than the average person and they randomly admitted it halfway through their thread

Spot on.

The old bait and hook.

I agree with all of this.

So many of the excuses people are giving for not complying are so lame.

I'm obeying the hosepipe ban, not because of the threat of a fine, but because I want to know that I'm an honest person who at least tries not to squander precious resources, ignore the needs of the community or the environment or break the law.

It everyone else was shoplifting food, that wouldn't make it OK for me to.

If I bought a mountain of food it wouldn't be OK to just chuck it away just because I'd paid for it.

I can't change anything but my own behavior, so that is my responsibility. I personally can do the right thing. Watering the garden using shower water is hardly a big sacrifice. My child will not die from lack of paddling pools filled with a hose. My lawn will bounce back without a sprinkler.

Solve the actual problem like, it's not raining? Good luck with that.

Also, people ignoring the hosepipe ban / doing nothing to reduce their water consumption are part of the actual problem.

It easily can be. The average water consumption per person per day in the UK is 150l.

A effective hose runs at at least 15l per minute, so if you are watering your garden for more than 14 mins or so you will be using over 200l.

Well said

Well, I was getting totally wrecked carrying full watering cans to the end of the garden (about 80ft from the outdoor tap), and I now have aches and pains in places I didn't know I had! I'm nearly 70 and thought I was supple enough, but not on your Nelly! Those cans hold 6 litres, that's 6kgs, multiply that by 5 or six trips every evening and Deep Heat rub is on the menu for sure!

Now I suppose I could only half fill them for weight purposes, but that would mean 12 trips down and 12 back. I'm far to lazy for that!

So people, today I ordered a small festival cart. I will put four cans at a time in it and wheel it down the path, water the pots, and bring it back empty to do the same again. It will be delivered tomorrow I hope! I am so excited, and it will be useful for other purposes also.

I know I would have used gallons more than this minimum with the hose, so we shall see how my carting adventure goes 😊

My friend said I should fill the cans by bringing the hose down to the end of the garden, but as I pointed out, there is a ban, and who knows who might be spying out their back bedroom window waiting to do a Covid type report. ha ha.