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Aibu thinking Scots shouldn't be wanting Argentina to win against England?

718 replies

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 18:49

It's getting beyond banter now imo.

I know plenty of Scots agree with me.

I'm half Scottish (dad) so always support both. In the past I'd probably want Scotland to win if it was them against England to be honest. Although now because of the Argentina support I'm going off supporting Scotland.

I desperately want England to win this one more than against any other team.

OP posts:
DearDenimEagle · 13/07/2026 23:15

Anyone but England 🤣 and while I grew up in England I’ve lived in Scotland most of my life…gone home as my grandfather said..he was born in Aberdeen . But really, I’d support England, maybe, They used to play like thugs..perhaps they’re better now. . I like underdogs to win in a way, but my money is on Argentina

Viviennemary · 13/07/2026 23:15

I think folk can support who they want. I don't want France to win.

Thedogscollar · 13/07/2026 23:17

Christ on a bike.
Some of you need to grow the hell up.
It's a game, nobody dies.
It won't change the world.
I'm Scottish, live in England married to an English man and all my friends are English.
I do not hate England.
Stop the divisivness, it's bloody tedious.
Btw I will be supporting England on Wednesday.

WerewolfOfLoudon · 13/07/2026 23:17

BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 19:38

The celebrations would have an entirely different tone here.

There would probably be a traffic cone shortage and half the country would run out of booze.

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 13/07/2026 23:17

Honestly, people in England, supporting England, have no idea what it’s like. I pay my licence fee, just like you do, but when England are competing, particularly in football, I have to listen to how whatever result, right from the play offs, effects England, a country I do not reside in. You have no idea.

The biased commentary, on both channels, is infuriating. It is hard to describe how it makes you feel both annoyed and sidelined at the same time. The only commentator I like hearing from is Ian Wright, it feels like he respects Scotland a bit and is able to view what Scotland is doing without an English biased lens.

Come on Argentina!

AD1996 · 13/07/2026 23:17

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇦🇷 😘

JellyCatOnAHotTinRoof · 13/07/2026 23:23

Hodgepig · 13/07/2026 22:38

I am also half Scottish and can say quite happily who gives a shiny shit what the Scots think? About anything. They’re a pointless and expensive hanger on of the UK and I wish the English had been given a referendum on getting rid of them.

I don’t even really care about the football!

lol

If you don’t think all those Conservatives wringing their hands to keep us, and our energy, whisky and oil revenue means anything, you’re a twit.

England had no reason to “keep” us, apart from the above. Please, cut us loose and let us go. I wish you all the best in all your endeavours, England.

MyPantsAreFartCentral · 13/07/2026 23:23

I find the whole 'Anyone But England' thing really baffling. Or at least I did, until my sister pointed out that since the Hand of God, most English are 'Anyone but Argentina'.
I asked our Scottish priest who he'd be supporting on Wednesday, and he said he had no choice but to support Argentina 'in memory of Pope Francis' 😂

TonTonMacoute · 13/07/2026 23:25

I quoted Billy Connolly on another similar thread. Apparently he said 'It's a waste of time hating England because they don't care'. It seems to be your fellow Scots who get more irritated by it

I have to say that it makes quite a refreshing change not to be the one everyone wants to lose.

lightseeker · 13/07/2026 23:25

These threads are stupid. Why go on and on about nothing. If certain people in Scotland are jealous of England in this football, that's up to them. It's a GAME - that's it!

YFonDelltBaeColwyn · 13/07/2026 23:37

'in memory of Pope Francis' 🕊

Tickingcrocodile · 13/07/2026 23:52

From what I've seen, Argentina are the most loathed team in the competition. The other South American countries can't seem to stand them. They are even making England look popular by comparison, so let them have the Scots at least.

HelpMeGetThrough · 14/07/2026 06:12

Bloody hell, it’s just another game of football.

All this seems a bit childish really, people need to grow up.

CandyflossKing · 14/07/2026 06:18

Any English here willing to get a team together to go rebuild the wall? 🤣

Freinddilemma · 14/07/2026 07:07

CandyflossKing · 14/07/2026 06:18

Any English here willing to get a team together to go rebuild the wall? 🤣

Yes but let's jig it up a little. We can leave them everything north of aberdeen

DontBuyAnotherBook · 14/07/2026 07:17

Whilst Scots wind themselves up over the English the English are more bothered about France and Germany. 🤷

DontBuyAnotherBook · 14/07/2026 07:18

Tickingcrocodile · 13/07/2026 23:52

From what I've seen, Argentina are the most loathed team in the competition. The other South American countries can't seem to stand them. They are even making England look popular by comparison, so let them have the Scots at least.

This is true.

Nadilla · 14/07/2026 07:44

Thedogscollar · 13/07/2026 23:17

Christ on a bike.
Some of you need to grow the hell up.
It's a game, nobody dies.
It won't change the world.
I'm Scottish, live in England married to an English man and all my friends are English.
I do not hate England.
Stop the divisivness, it's bloody tedious.
Btw I will be supporting England on Wednesday.

I agree. There is such childishness on each side here.

The people gloating how England don’t care, ‘we’ never think about the Scots, we are in the semi-final and you aren’t, so ha. And the Anyone but England crew desperately hanging out bunting for Argentina, not out of a sense of real support but out of petty spite towards England.

What lovely sportsmanship! Honestly, I have seen children behave with more maturity around this World Cup than some people on this thread.

It is a cliche but let’s hope the best team wins. I’m not an expert but I have read that Argentinian footballers play dirty. If that’s true, I wouldn’t want them to win against any nation. Again I don’t know a great deal of detail but most of these England players seem like a decent bunch? They don’t seem to be particularly arrogant or unpleasant, but maybe there are stories I don’t know about.

There is such intense xenophobia and pettiness on both sides on this thread. Thank goodness I don’t see it in real life. And my social media algorithms just show all the heartwarming stories from this year’s World Cup. Much nicer!

LivGo · 14/07/2026 07:44

I am Scottish and live in Buenos Aires, so I'm afraid I will be very passionately supporting Argentina!!

The excitement here for matches is infectious - I've never been into football much but it's hard to ignore it.

I have always supported them on the Las Malvinas (Falklands) issue, which is the main cause of friction for them with England - and in my opinion, understandably so.

lovecotswoldsliving · 14/07/2026 07:55

LivGo · 14/07/2026 07:44

I am Scottish and live in Buenos Aires, so I'm afraid I will be very passionately supporting Argentina!!

The excitement here for matches is infectious - I've never been into football much but it's hard to ignore it.

I have always supported them on the Las Malvinas (Falklands) issue, which is the main cause of friction for them with England - and in my opinion, understandably so.

Booo Hoooo
No one cares about YOU
And just to educate you - do you realise a large proportion of servicemen who died in the Falklands were Scottish? The Argentinians obviously did not care they were Scottish or English.
So if you want to bring the Falklands into it, maybe spare a thought for the Scottish families too.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 14/07/2026 08:02

People can support who they want. I’m English/Irish and I didn’t support Scotland in the World Cup. Why would I!

LivGo · 14/07/2026 08:07

lovecotswoldsliving · 14/07/2026 07:55

Booo Hoooo
No one cares about YOU
And just to educate you - do you realise a large proportion of servicemen who died in the Falklands were Scottish? The Argentinians obviously did not care they were Scottish or English.
So if you want to bring the Falklands into it, maybe spare a thought for the Scottish families too.

The vast majority of Argentineans would agree that the war was wrong. It was carried out by a very repressive military regime that disappeared thousands of innocent Argentineans - often kidnapping them from their homes in the middle of the night never to be seen again. There are thousands of mothers who never saw their children again, never found out what happened to them, and died without justice. Still today there are people who were forcibly taken from their mother at birth, 'adopted', and have never been told the truth about their identity. It was a truly awful regime - and the impact is still felt here today.

There are always two sides to every story, and the reality is often far more complicated than it first appears.

None of that changes the fact that Las Malvinas should be under the jurisdiction of Argentina, rather than a British colony.

PurpleThistle7 · 14/07/2026 08:19

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 19:38

I know people CAN support who they want. Doesn't make it right in this case imo. But obviously I'm in the minority.

I'm not obsessed. I think people buying Argentinian shirts and flags when they're not even from there is obsessive and bitter. They'd be better spending it on Tennents.

Just my opinion 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️

But why? It’s not a vote - it doesn’t matter at all who anyone is supporting. The players will do whatever and someone will win regardless of what I think in Scotland.

People support teams for all sorts of reasons and if always supporting the opponent of a team is your thing that’s just as valid as rooting for England because they are the country that borders you. Why is that relevant? I liked Norway’s fans so enjoyed watching them. I do not tend to enjoy watching England’s fans so don’t feel any connection to the team.

nam3c4ang3 · 14/07/2026 08:34

You can try - but the Scots hate the English so they will support literally anyone except the English. I hope Argentina loses because i cant stand Messi and how this is rigged for them to win, if the English dont win, (and the French beat Spain) I hope the french tear Argentina apart 😂

Shoola · 14/07/2026 09:06

Noshadowsinthedarkness · 13/07/2026 18:57

I mean there’s some fairly strong history behind why the Welsh and Scottish support anyone except England….

I’m indifferent but I can’t imagine many English supporting Wales or Scotland rather than the opponent either.

Most English people, that I know, do actually. But I hardly know any English people who don't have a Scottish, Welsh, Irish or another nationality parent or grandparent. Part of history is that people don't stay put.

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