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Aibu thinking Scots shouldn't be wanting Argentina to win against England?

713 replies

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 18:49

It's getting beyond banter now imo.

I know plenty of Scots agree with me.

I'm half Scottish (dad) so always support both. In the past I'd probably want Scotland to win if it was them against England to be honest. Although now because of the Argentina support I'm going off supporting Scotland.

I desperately want England to win this one more than against any other team.

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littlbrowndog · 13/07/2026 22:30

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:19

I am Norwegian. Can’t wait for the Argentine to finnish England off 😂 They have to remember not to breathe on the England players as they might fall over on the pitch.

You got bet fair and square.

row off now

Radrover · 13/07/2026 22:32

It’s only a big deal if you allow it to be - get a grip op.

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:33

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:27

Lol most of the world will cheer on Argentine. Even your coach said you got lucky on a Saturday.

Well you never got lucky.
Never mind
Whatever has made you so bitter is embarrassing. Obviously you left your country, not that great then.

Hundslappadrifa · 13/07/2026 22:33

Who cares what the Scottish think or want anyway?

Patsy7299 · 13/07/2026 22:34

EverMissWicklowSometimes · 13/07/2026 19:31

Excuse me? "We've" given "them"?! It's all our taxes. And people wonder why we don't support England...

Edited

Exactly! We will keep our oil, water and whisky and see how they get in then!

BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 22:34

BerryTwister · 13/07/2026 20:25

In response to the “anyone but England” approach that Scots seem to take, I’ve adopted an “anyone but Scotland” view. The best part of these tournaments is when Scotland get knocked out, and they really did it in style this time!

I don’t know how Scottish fans have got a reputation for being jolly and no trouble. I watched a Celtic match (a friendly) in Glasgow once and it was like a war zone afterwards. Hundreds of police, struggling to keep thousands of angry drunk Scottish fans under control. For a friendly!!

Football fans are tribal. There is trouble whenever a lot of teams play wherever they are.

The Tartan Army aren’t just “football fans” though. They know they have a reputation to uphold and most are just there to support their country. Also, those who are known to be trouble are banned from travelling. They also raised $10k for a children’s hospital in Boston. They donate in every country they go to, and to date their donations total nearly £1m. It is rare there is any issue with Scotland’s fans.

In the last 5 years, 24 Scotland fans have been arrested. Half of those were after matches against England, and the vast majority were for drunkenness rather than violence. 632 England fans have been arrested in the same period.

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:35

littlbrowndog · 13/07/2026 22:30

You got bet fair and square.

row off now

Nothing fair and square about it. Good acting from the England team though. Better actors than footballers 🤭

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:35

BigcatLittlecat · 13/07/2026 22:30

There are only ever 2 teams I support, Wales and whoever are playing England!

Fabulous! Great to see your support of other teams is not working.
Must be getting boring by now.

BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 22:35

littlbrowndog · 13/07/2026 22:30

You got bet fair and square.

row off now

Absolutely not. England were lucky to win. It could have very easily have gone the other way.

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:36

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:35

Nothing fair and square about it. Good acting from the England team though. Better actors than footballers 🤭

Was it tiring rowing home?
Oh no, you left home.

montysmaw · 13/07/2026 22:36

Minasama · 13/07/2026 19:08

Scots always support anyone but England, despite all the money we’ve given them over the years (I remember reading it was about a 10% uplift per taxpayer back when they had the independence referendum.)

In return, we think they are dour and have midges.

And those comments are exactly why Scotland will support Argentina. Scotland pays in more to the UK than it gets back.

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 13/07/2026 22:37

Minasama · 13/07/2026 19:08

Scots always support anyone but England, despite all the money we’ve given them over the years (I remember reading it was about a 10% uplift per taxpayer back when they had the independence referendum.)

In return, we think they are dour and have midges.

We owe them - the billions of pounds worth of Scottish North Sea oil and gas that the UK has benefitted from completely dwarfs any financial benefit they get now. If they hadn’t been part of the UK Scotland would be a very rich country akin to Norway.

BelleDeJourRose · 13/07/2026 22:37

BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 22:34

Football fans are tribal. There is trouble whenever a lot of teams play wherever they are.

The Tartan Army aren’t just “football fans” though. They know they have a reputation to uphold and most are just there to support their country. Also, those who are known to be trouble are banned from travelling. They also raised $10k for a children’s hospital in Boston. They donate in every country they go to, and to date their donations total nearly £1m. It is rare there is any issue with Scotland’s fans.

In the last 5 years, 24 Scotland fans have been arrested. Half of those were after matches against England, and the vast majority were for drunkenness rather than violence. 632 England fans have been arrested in the same period.

What's the point of comparing numbers as you've done and ignoring that England's population is nearly 60 million and Scotland's population is 5.5 million. Hardly a fair comparison!

Weeellokthen · 13/07/2026 22:38

BashfulClam · 13/07/2026 19:38

Yes because the Scot’s dont pay tax at all! We are just scroungers…ask yourself why David Cameron was terrified of independence !

Eh?

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:38

BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 22:35

Absolutely not. England were lucky to win. It could have very easily have gone the other way.

On the night Bellingham was far superior to Haarland. He didn’t show up

BelleDeJourRose · 13/07/2026 22:38

Its best to ignore xenophobes. You can't reason with them as they're dim and always looking for excuses for their hatred. Best to leave them to wallow in their bitterness. They have an entire nationality living rent free in their head poor buggers 😄

Hodgepig · 13/07/2026 22:38

I am also half Scottish and can say quite happily who gives a shiny shit what the Scots think? About anything. They’re a pointless and expensive hanger on of the UK and I wish the English had been given a referendum on getting rid of them.

I don’t even really care about the football!

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:38

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:36

Was it tiring rowing home?
Oh no, you left home.

No it was fine as we know we were the real winners☺️

DrumsPleaseFab · 13/07/2026 22:39

Argentina has to contend with ALL of South and Central America rooting against them 😂

everyone seems to hate them

did you know 😁

so England can put up with the rest of the Brits hating them maybe

I find the Scottish hate of the English quite tedious but I do not ever see it change

Kamilaa · 13/07/2026 22:41

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:38

On the night Bellingham was far superior to Haarland. He didn’t show up

We agree

Cooshawn · 13/07/2026 22:42

Oh for Christ's sake. People should support whichever team they want, for whatever reason they want.

Are you really so fucking fragile that you can't deal with people who aren't English not supporting England?

PrettyLittleRose · 13/07/2026 22:44

Engerlund · 13/07/2026 18:49

It's getting beyond banter now imo.

I know plenty of Scots agree with me.

I'm half Scottish (dad) so always support both. In the past I'd probably want Scotland to win if it was them against England to be honest. Although now because of the Argentina support I'm going off supporting Scotland.

I desperately want England to win this one more than against any other team.

Do they though? Do all Scots want Argentina to win? Why do they care?

No offence, but England fans don't give a shit about what the Scottish think, or if they support Argentina, or if they want anyone but England to win. Literally, zero shits.

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BoredZelda · 13/07/2026 22:45

lovecotswoldsliving · 13/07/2026 22:22

Oh diddums.
Did you not see the pushing and shoving by Haarland?
You just weren’t good enough for Bellingham were you?

Everyone was pushing and shoving. It’s part of the game. This one fell foul of a new rule, but don’t pretend it didn’t happen elsewhere. Bellingham spent more time rolling on the pitch like a tantrumming toddler than playing the game. The main reason they won was Jordan Pickford. Norway had more on target shot at goal than England did. Lesser goalies wouldn’t have stopped as many.

But really, you’re just making the case for why so few people outside of England want to support England.

Livelovebehappy · 13/07/2026 22:46

Let people support who they want. I must admit I never cheer Scotland on, whoever they’re up against, so I can hardly complain that they don’t support England. We have enough support. Apparently the Americans and Canadians are behind us, so my relative who lives in the US tells me. We’ll be fine….

Sometimeswinning · 13/07/2026 22:47

montysmaw · 13/07/2026 22:36

And those comments are exactly why Scotland will support Argentina. Scotland pays in more to the UK than it gets back.

🤣 Sorry that’s a complete lie. Maybe check before you post such nonsense.