AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

We have to wonder about Harry and his parenting, though. He and his wife are happy to travel extensively abroad and leave the children at home for extended periods.. I'd be amazed if he's particularly present.

Actually your correct it would have been a whole bunch of people.
Even more reason why the palace had a deadline. But someone that concerned would have accepted or declined ASAP

I agree, but for some reason KC gets the blame for Harry's own ineptitude.

I always wonder this too. Now dont get me wrong, my dad travelled for a work when I was younger and was still a very present, hands on parent. I've left my kids with their grandparents while me and my husband have had nights away so I'm the last person who thinks you need to be chained to your child 24/7 to be a good parent.

But they seem to be on a different scale. I can't even remember W&C doing so many joint foreign trips with young kids. Archie as as a baby was left on more than a few occasions in Vancouver while they were in the UK. Even in Lilibets first 18 months, they were frequent trips abroad and to the opposite side of the US.

For a couple so paranoid about the safety of their kids, they certainly don't have any qualms about leaving them behind while they both visit countries like Colombia and Nigeria.

They went on "Royal Tours" of Nigeria and Colombia and left them at home. I suspect there's a very aristocratic attitude to parenting.

Indeed! , I will not comment on the obvious hypocrisy of that !

I don't understand these tours what is the purpose of them ?
they are probably going down the same route of "Royal" for hire like princess Diana and The Duke and Duchess of Windsor did after he abdicated.

It's all the stans and the paid PR bods have left. When all else fails, you have to play the terrible hand of cards you have dealt yourself with as big a flourish of bravado that you can muster.

You'll still lose though.

And with time, the bravado starts to fade, like a dried petal on the dusty and dimly lit windowsill of life.

That is very poetic! I suspect that Harry has been doing this for so long, it'll be a hard habit to break.

It's to perpetuate that which is most important to them; being royal. Those tours were quite extraordinary.

It is just a bit mad isn't it ? But I guess he doesn't know what else to do, even his charity work seems self serving

Yes, because it's about his image and the headlines. He lives as a Prince in the fullest sense of the word.

@Lomonald I think the fact that he doesn't have a real role here in the US is a big part of it. He needs something to do that he's good at and makes him feel useful. He could easily get involved in environmental issues in California, for example, they have problems with wildfires, what about state and national parks? He'd be a good park ranger, he's used to interacting with the public!

Just stop trying to be a celebrity.

He craves it though. They both do.

I agree with you, doing something useful and what he sees as "worthy" is very different, i understand Meghan was an actress and did her lifestyle blog, but this touring and visiting looks a bit silly, imo.

Yeah they do, i know there is some Megan frothers but I think they are 2 peas in a pod,

@FenellaFeldman It ain't working! He'll always get attention in the UK but not in the US now unless he does something meaningful. He's not particularly good at being a celebrity, there's an art to it, I suppose.

True. Is it not working in the USA?

Why do so many people blame Meghan? Harry is quite capable of making his own decisions . Yes he made some stupid decisions but the terrible racial abuse Meghan received from the press was awful and Charles and William did nothing as they asr so scared of the press telling their secrets! Charles as head of the church should be trying harder to reconcile their family isn’t “forgiveness part of his role ? The royal family have lost my respect in their treatment of Harry and Meghan .

@FenellaFeldman You never hear about them now, I only know what they're up to because I follow the news in both countries.

It was different when they first moved to the US, but they've now got the privacy they craved :-).

You think Charles and William should control the press?
Blimey, there are some hardcore royalists on here!

What they both want to do is to be given a massive, even 'royal' reception and make speeches. They want to say lovely, virtue-signalling things which make them seem wonderful people. They want adulation for this..oh, and a hefty pay cheque too, plus VIP treatment.

They want recognition - but what for? That's increasingly their problem. They both like to be seen making wonderful gestures - going to visit firefighters during the LA fires - that sort of thing.

Actually, Harry's outdoor, action-man strengths would be well-used as a Park Ranger (serious stuff in the US - big landscapes, bears, hot geysers, wilderness etc) and he'd be good at it. But where would the adulation come from? And he'd actually have to work at it every day like other people.

I think that was the problem with - can't remember the company - it wasn't Netflix, was it??? The one where they were supposed to be creating content and neither of them lifted a finger except to mention a bonkers idea which they clearly expected other people to take forward. They don't intend to actually do the work - either of them - they just want to 'appear', make a speech, get clapped and some kind of award, and go home with the pay cheque.

I think you do some research into the whole debacle. Before any forgiveness, they need to show remorse and some understanding of what they've done to Harry's father and sister-in-law.

But I won't hold my breath. And even if KC and Catherine could forgive them, all trust is gone for ever, so there's no way back for Harry either personally or officially.

You're right, @CoffeeCantata. Good points.
Harry and Meghan are very royal, the titles are so important, that's their attitude and their lifestyle, but they also want it to be their income stream.
If you're relying on the privilege of being royal, yet you've broken away from the main RF, you've lost your cachet.
I wish they'd both get productive jobs and stop with the cosplay.

That would involve actually working. Rather than just rocking up and shaking a few hands.