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Sandals and crusty feet at work

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Offherrockingchair · 28/06/2026 19:47

AIBU to think that walking sandals and flip flops are not professional workwear? Yes, it’s been ridiculously hot, but I don’t want to see brittle yellow toenails, crusty dry skin and, in one case, flakes and chunks of skin hanging off the manky trotters of my colleagues 🤮 At the very least, if we are going to be subjected to your toe cleavage, have a pedicure first. And don’t get me started on the smelly ones!

OP posts:
Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:08

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 14:17

When we are babies and small children or very old, other people help us take care of being clean and in good condition because that is considered to be important. Yes, we all sweat, we all poo, we all have dead skin but if we soil ourselves, reek of stale BO and are covered in dandruff or crusty skin that is not a good thing. And if you left a child or elderly person uncleaned and unkempt, that would be considered neglect. If we have a pet, we would be reported for animal neglect / cruelty if we didn't get toenails clipped, hooves shod or failed to groom coats etc.

Yet there always seem to be posters on MN for whom personal grooming of the most basic kind is seen as only done as a performance for others, rather than fulfilling a fundamental requirement for good health.

Being clean and ensuring that the skin on your feet or anywhere else on your body is healthy and well looked after is a GOOD thing - not an indulgence.

Edited

We aren’t talking about being dirty - we are talking about being aesthetically unpleasing to some people. Why can’t people understand that?

If you shower, wash/brush your hair and wear clean clothes that are appropriate to the environment you are in every day then the rest is just cosmetic and shows a certain amount of insecurity from
those posters who judge.

If ‘pampering’ is your thing then great. Buy your wanky soaps and products and pay people to administer ‘treatments’. I’m would genuinely rather stick pins in my eyes than do that but I’m an adult and as such I understand that people are into different things.

If your entire self worth is tied up with having your feet perfectly pedicured and every inch of skin moisturised or whatever, then that’s fine. It’s a shame that you feel that insecure but we all have our issues.

If you were happy in yourselves then it wouldn’t bother you,

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:12

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 14:46

For sure @hecalledmecaptain . I have psoriasis myself. I don't see specific health conditions, disabilities and deformities as what this thread was really about. I also don't think that people with health conditions, disabilities and deformities do look "horrendous" either.

My points are addressing the claims that basic grooming is somehow performative or for others and not necessary for good health.

What about those of us who just aren’t attractive? Should we make more of an effort?

If someone can explain why people who are clean and dressed appropriately are so offensive, I would love to hear it.

Like I said, it shows your insecurities that you judge others for not wanting to spend their time and money on something just because you can’t exist without it.

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:15

@Anarchy99 are you deliberately mis-reading my posts that have absolutely nothing to do with being aesthetically pleasing and are all about good health and self-care?

Ceramiq · 30/06/2026 16:18

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:15

@Anarchy99 are you deliberately mis-reading my posts that have absolutely nothing to do with being aesthetically pleasing and are all about good health and self-care?

People who don't know how to take care of themselves get angsty when other people point that out, with the best of intentions.

Melarus · 30/06/2026 16:24

feistyoneyouare · 30/06/2026 15:53

I haven't seen that claim made on this thread, but I may have missed something.

Personally for me, hairy toes are f'ing ugly. Them being clean wouldn't change that.

See, that's a YOU problem. Not the toe-owner's problem to solve.

DappledThings · 30/06/2026 16:25

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:15

@Anarchy99 are you deliberately mis-reading my posts that have absolutely nothing to do with being aesthetically pleasing and are all about good health and self-care?

But nobody has claimed being dirty or leaving themselves with injured skin is a good idea. It's a difference of opinion over what constitutes "self-care" and where that tips over from hygiene into grooming.

I've never had a pedicure, I've never treated my feet with anything. If there is dry skin on my feet that's left over from showering and drying then it isn't noticeable to me and if it's noticeable to anyone else I don't care. That's not me not taking care of myself or failing to perform anything basic.

It's no different to my face. I use no skincare because I'm not interested. I have rosacea which is untreated and sometimes flares up. I'm sure my red bumpy face is offensive to some and seen as not taking care of myself but it's clean and washed so what anyone else judges it as is their problem.

feistyoneyouare · 30/06/2026 16:27

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:08

We aren’t talking about being dirty - we are talking about being aesthetically unpleasing to some people. Why can’t people understand that?

If you shower, wash/brush your hair and wear clean clothes that are appropriate to the environment you are in every day then the rest is just cosmetic and shows a certain amount of insecurity from
those posters who judge.

If ‘pampering’ is your thing then great. Buy your wanky soaps and products and pay people to administer ‘treatments’. I’m would genuinely rather stick pins in my eyes than do that but I’m an adult and as such I understand that people are into different things.

If your entire self worth is tied up with having your feet perfectly pedicured and every inch of skin moisturised or whatever, then that’s fine. It’s a shame that you feel that insecure but we all have our issues.

If you were happy in yourselves then it wouldn’t bother you,

You sound rather insecure yourself tbh. If you were genuinely happy in yourself I'd have thought you'd have been able to convey your message without resorting to sarcasm/sneering.

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:28

DappledThings · 30/06/2026 16:25

But nobody has claimed being dirty or leaving themselves with injured skin is a good idea. It's a difference of opinion over what constitutes "self-care" and where that tips over from hygiene into grooming.

I've never had a pedicure, I've never treated my feet with anything. If there is dry skin on my feet that's left over from showering and drying then it isn't noticeable to me and if it's noticeable to anyone else I don't care. That's not me not taking care of myself or failing to perform anything basic.

It's no different to my face. I use no skincare because I'm not interested. I have rosacea which is untreated and sometimes flares up. I'm sure my red bumpy face is offensive to some and seen as not taking care of myself but it's clean and washed so what anyone else judges it as is their problem.

Edited

You put that much more succinctly than I did.

If people want to indulge themselves and pretend it’s for their health then great.

feistyoneyouare · 30/06/2026 16:30

Melarus · 30/06/2026 16:24

See, that's a YOU problem. Not the toe-owner's problem to solve.

Absolutely. Which is why I haven't suggested people should shave their toes or not wear sandals. That would be ridiculously arrogant. But people on the thread are talking about things they find aesthetically displeasing, and I was doing the same. No one's saying there should be a law against it, it's not that deep.

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:32

Ah but the difference is that I wouldn’t even notice your feet or whatever, much less judge, because I mind my own business and I honestly am
not sufficiently interested in others.

Live your life and let others do the same. If you can’t go out without judging people then it’s for you to deal with. It does not make you a better person than them.

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 16:32

BlueFahrenheit · 30/06/2026 15:41

Well, what are you going to do about someone choosing to pick their nose, dear? Reprimand the person for picking their nose, or look away?

I know what I would do.

I wouldn't reprimand them unless I was their manager. If I was, I we would. I can't believe that adults need to be told that basic hygiene is necessary to be professional.

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 16:34

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:32

Ah but the difference is that I wouldn’t even notice your feet or whatever, much less judge, because I mind my own business and I honestly am
not sufficiently interested in others.

Live your life and let others do the same. If you can’t go out without judging people then it’s for you to deal with. It does not make you a better person than them.

I'm sorry but the more you talk, the more convinced I am that you must be pretty unkempt and that those around you are just too polite to say so.

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:34

DappledThings · 30/06/2026 16:25

But nobody has claimed being dirty or leaving themselves with injured skin is a good idea. It's a difference of opinion over what constitutes "self-care" and where that tips over from hygiene into grooming.

I've never had a pedicure, I've never treated my feet with anything. If there is dry skin on my feet that's left over from showering and drying then it isn't noticeable to me and if it's noticeable to anyone else I don't care. That's not me not taking care of myself or failing to perform anything basic.

It's no different to my face. I use no skincare because I'm not interested. I have rosacea which is untreated and sometimes flares up. I'm sure my red bumpy face is offensive to some and seen as not taking care of myself but it's clean and washed so what anyone else judges it as is their problem.

Edited

Which is why I went into great detail in an earlier post about what constituted self care and how I considered it to be what I would do for those who couldn't do it for themselves. Again, had absolutely nothing to do with aesthetics - just basic self-care, which will of course differ from person to person depending on age and circumstances.

SadiraOfTyr · 30/06/2026 16:36

Ceramiq · 30/06/2026 15:31

We don't agree. Ensuring that your feet are in perfect condition is a public good as well as a personal hygiene matter.

My husband had an Achilles tendon repair. Six months later he was at the dentist and she could tell by looking in his mouth that he'd had an accident and sent him straight off to the osteopath to realign his body and jaw before even more damage was done to his teeth.

And the dentist and the osteopath had a chuckle over it during their weekly golf round.

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 16:37

SadiraOfTyr · 30/06/2026 16:36

And the dentist and the osteopath had a chuckle over it during their weekly golf round.

What makes you say that? Do you think that you know better than medical professionals?

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:38

Anarchy99 · 30/06/2026 16:32

Ah but the difference is that I wouldn’t even notice your feet or whatever, much less judge, because I mind my own business and I honestly am
not sufficiently interested in others.

Live your life and let others do the same. If you can’t go out without judging people then it’s for you to deal with. It does not make you a better person than them.

Says the poster who has spent so much time on here judging other people's "wanky soaps", "treatments", "perfectly pedicured" etc! Come on now.

RoseOliviaAu · 30/06/2026 16:40

Stop staring at people’s feet and do your work. Busy body.

user67584329 · 30/06/2026 16:45

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 10:04

Hugely amused by those whose glance never deigns to descends below eye height! I'm relieved to say that I can observe floor to ceiling whilst at work and moving around the world. Fortunately that means that I can observe to get up for someone wearing a foot boot (as in medical) on the tube. I could see when my children's shoe laces were untied or the hem of my colleague's skirt had come undone and I could offer her a needle and thread to put a few stitches in before she went into a meeting.

Yes. Between the you need to buff your toes with a 3 carat diamond and cream them with whale oil extracted in the dark of a Norwegian January midwinter night before you leave the house posters and the my eyes never descend below the horizon line, I've never noticed anyone else's knees/feet/shoes/skirt/trousers in my life, this thread is pretty bizarre.

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:49

@user67584329 indeed it is quite mad. I think we should blame the whale oil. 😁

Ceramiq · 30/06/2026 17:00

SadiraOfTyr · 30/06/2026 16:36

And the dentist and the osteopath had a chuckle over it during their weekly golf round.

Like so many other posters, you seem to be living somewhere in the middle of the 20th century with your crusty feet and male health care professionals and golf.

It's 2026. Your 20C standards are completely unacceptable.

user67584329 · 30/06/2026 17:02

MargoLivebetter · 30/06/2026 16:49

@user67584329 indeed it is quite mad. I think we should blame the whale oil. 😁

Or lack thereof 😅

I have to say, I don't quite understand the posters who are horrified by pedicures. I absolutely love mine. Every other week. Feet in warm lavender scented water, lavender scrub, stress releasing massage, file straight across, paint. In between, some Cerave moisturiser before bed at night. I don't know what's not to like!

DappledThings · 30/06/2026 17:19

user67584329 · 30/06/2026 17:02

Or lack thereof 😅

I have to say, I don't quite understand the posters who are horrified by pedicures. I absolutely love mine. Every other week. Feet in warm lavender scented water, lavender scrub, stress releasing massage, file straight across, paint. In between, some Cerave moisturiser before bed at night. I don't know what's not to like!

I don't think anyone has expressed anything like horror. Lack of interest isn't the same as dislike. I've never had a pedicure because I can't be arsed and it's never occurred to me to do so, not because I find the concept unpleasant.

Melarus · 30/06/2026 17:21

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 16:34

I'm sorry but the more you talk, the more convinced I am that you must be pretty unkempt and that those around you are just too polite to say so.

oh come ON. We've had page after page of people calling feet rank, minging, cheesy, revolting, crusty ... really strong language specifically chosen to make sandal-wearers and non-pedicurers feel bad.

You have no idea what that poster looks like, not the faintest. (The post you quoted wasn't even about that.) You just want to get on your high horse and insult her.

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 17:25

Melarus · 30/06/2026 17:21

oh come ON. We've had page after page of people calling feet rank, minging, cheesy, revolting, crusty ... really strong language specifically chosen to make sandal-wearers and non-pedicurers feel bad.

You have no idea what that poster looks like, not the faintest. (The post you quoted wasn't even about that.) You just want to get on your high horse and insult her.

I'm sorry but a hit dog hollers. I must say that this thread is a bit of an eye opener. I wouldn't dream of going out in public with unshaved legs or armpits, unfiled feet or yellow toenails and cracked cuticles. It makes me wonder what other people consider basic hygiene.

Instructions · 30/06/2026 17:27

BettyJoanPerske · 30/06/2026 17:25

I'm sorry but a hit dog hollers. I must say that this thread is a bit of an eye opener. I wouldn't dream of going out in public with unshaved legs or armpits, unfiled feet or yellow toenails and cracked cuticles. It makes me wonder what other people consider basic hygiene.

You think that shaving legs is basic hygiene? Oh dear.