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To not support England?!

631 replies

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 15/06/2026 21:33

JackGrealishsCalves · 11/06/2026 21:45

Honestly love, no one gives a shit who you pretend to support.
Bet you can't even name 4 players from your "adopted" team. Yay, go you

To be fair I would struggle these days to name the England team, I did recently ask someone when they were going to see Harry Kane at Wembley, singing not kicking!

FarmersWifeOf30Years · 15/06/2026 21:39

Op, you are totally speshull and younique.

Feetballislife · 16/06/2026 07:04

FarmersWifeOf30Years · 15/06/2026 21:39

Op, you are totally speshull and younique.

Babes, aren’t we all! Big Cape Verde fan now! How fickle…

OP posts:
Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 07:11

Feetballislife · 16/06/2026 07:04

Babes, aren’t we all! Big Cape Verde fan now! How fickle…

I couldn't believe that post when I read it. 2026 and people still use words like "speshul".

JudgeJ · 16/06/2026 11:22

Feetballislife · 16/06/2026 07:04

Babes, aren’t we all! Big Cape Verde fan now! How fickle…

Aren't we all! It increases my optimism about one of my sweepstake teams, DRC! Go guys and stuff Portugal tomorrow, if only to wipe the smirk off Ronaldo's face.
Interesting how many draws there have been so far, could make the battle for second place go down to goal difference!

Grghf · 16/06/2026 14:14

Goditsmemargaret · 14/06/2026 13:20

Not sure whether youre aware but the last one was over a century ago...

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 14:17

Come to Liverpool! More people here supporting Scotland than England

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 14:19

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 14:17

Come to Liverpool! More people here supporting Scotland than England

That is pathetic.

Goditsmemargaret · 16/06/2026 14:56

Grghf · 16/06/2026 14:14

Not sure whether youre aware but the last one was over a century ago...

Oh really? I'd no idea things had calmed down (having grown up during The Troubles).

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 16:54

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 14:19

That is pathetic.

If you new the history of how the rest of this country and government has treated this city you would understand why people are anti England and anti establishment

Desert76 · 16/06/2026 17:29

I’ll watch the England matches, but my allegiance will mainly lie with my favourite players - none of whom happen to play for England.

I’ll be cheering for the Netherlands, but there are a few teams that I hope will do well - Cape Verde have definitely been added to that list since their performance yesterday.

It’s just a bit of fun, and you can support whomever you like - it doesn’t mean you hate the country you live in, what an odd notion.

Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 17:47

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 14:19

That is pathetic.

I'll give you one thing - you're consistant!

You obviously love your country.

As I Iove mine. I'm lucky in this instance because my country is Scotland and Scots, like the Irish (and Welsh tbh) are loved wherever they go.

There is nothing wrong with people supporting Scotland and the Tartan Army.

They cause a wee lump in my throat tbh as you can see the joy they're feeling, and they never cause any bother. Locals everywhere love them. We got adopted at the Euros!

You love England - I'm kind of guessing you don't love Scotland.

Why don't you just support your own team instead of getting upset by people who don't?

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:26

Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 17:47

I'll give you one thing - you're consistant!

You obviously love your country.

As I Iove mine. I'm lucky in this instance because my country is Scotland and Scots, like the Irish (and Welsh tbh) are loved wherever they go.

There is nothing wrong with people supporting Scotland and the Tartan Army.

They cause a wee lump in my throat tbh as you can see the joy they're feeling, and they never cause any bother. Locals everywhere love them. We got adopted at the Euros!

You love England - I'm kind of guessing you don't love Scotland.

Why don't you just support your own team instead of getting upset by people who don't?

Liverpool is in England in case you didn't realise.

Edited because I thought you were the OP. I know what country you are from as I have read posts from you before.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:31

@Differentforgirls Oh I completely understand loving your country. No problem there although I don't think every supporter of the countries you mention are loved. You have your own arseholes as fans. I have no problem with you btw. I do take issue with the several threads OP starts that are blatant in their hatred of the English. It is just weird. Just being hated because we are English.

Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 18:32

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:31

@Differentforgirls Oh I completely understand loving your country. No problem there although I don't think every supporter of the countries you mention are loved. You have your own arseholes as fans. I have no problem with you btw. I do take issue with the several threads OP starts that are blatant in their hatred of the English. It is just weird. Just being hated because we are English.

I don't hate you if that's any consulation?

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:35

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 16:54

If you new the history of how the rest of this country and government has treated this city you would understand why people are anti England and anti establishment

So why do other Northern towns in England not do the same? They had just as much right as Liverpool to hate Thatcher. They have been treated just as badly. My place was a major fishing city. Still aren't anti English. It is just tiresome. Many of them also had plenty of Irish settling there. Leeds springs to mind.

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 16/06/2026 18:36

It's a game shouting at a telly doesnt change a fucking thing.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:36

Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 18:32

I don't hate you if that's any consulation?

I don't do hearts but here's a 👍My favourite manager was a Scot.

Differentforgirls · 16/06/2026 18:44

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:36

I don't do hearts but here's a 👍My favourite manager was a Scot.

Thank you. 😊

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 19:13

DontBuyAnotherBook · 16/06/2026 18:35

So why do other Northern towns in England not do the same? They had just as much right as Liverpool to hate Thatcher. They have been treated just as badly. My place was a major fishing city. Still aren't anti English. It is just tiresome. Many of them also had plenty of Irish settling there. Leeds springs to mind.

not other city went through what we went through over hillsborough and that wasn’t just the thatcher issue it went on for years!!

Liverpool was also the worst city effected by the managed decline

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 16/06/2026 19:18

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 19:13

not other city went through what we went through over hillsborough and that wasn’t just the thatcher issue it went on for years!!

Liverpool was also the worst city effected by the managed decline

I'm sure I read some where Liverpool would've been allowed to go bankrupt and whatever happened in the aftermath would've been a so be it.
Societal breakdown etc.

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 19:25

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 16/06/2026 19:18

I'm sure I read some where Liverpool would've been allowed to go bankrupt and whatever happened in the aftermath would've been a so be it.
Societal breakdown etc.

Yeah so they basically wanted to us to close down- the idea was everyone would move away and Liverpool would cease to become a city and just be swallowed up by the areas around it.
the docks were ran into the floor
no Investment was given.

the people of city fought back and saved it and now it thrives

oliviaAustin · 16/06/2026 19:55

Meh, we support England. But if they ever get knocked out we support Wales (DH grandparents country) and then Scotland (My GGrandparents). I’d support those over say Japan when I lived there because it’s just natural to us.

Goditsmemargaret · 16/06/2026 20:16

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 19:25

Yeah so they basically wanted to us to close down- the idea was everyone would move away and Liverpool would cease to become a city and just be swallowed up by the areas around it.
the docks were ran into the floor
no Investment was given.

the people of city fought back and saved it and now it thrives

I did not know this! How amazing. I’d love to know more; are there any books or documentaries you would recommend?

musicandmen · 16/06/2026 20:47

Goditsmemargaret · 16/06/2026 20:16

I did not know this! How amazing. I’d love to know more; are there any books or documentaries you would recommend?

Liverpool and the unmaking of Britain - book

there was a Jimmy McGovern drama doc called - dockers and one about hillsbourgh too

Google the dockers strikes there’s a lot off content about them. My grandad was one of the main the union men in the 80’s and 90’s fighting to save the docks

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