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AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

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Northermcharn · 09/06/2026 19:11

'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

The exterior entrance of Bristol Crown Court. It is a large sand coloured building with white columns outside the front, and large arched wooden double doors on the left.

Afghan men accused of fleeing UK after raping girl in Bristol

A jury is told three defendants left the country in a "deeply unusual" way after the alleged rape.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

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Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:48

PigletAdventures · 11/06/2026 13:46

You're clearly just looking for an argument. Continue to put your energies into campaigning.

Absolutely I will do, continue putting your energies into deporting rape victims...

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 13:48

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:47

But she is unvetted and so unvetted immigrants are a risk....

Right?

You saying women are never violent? That is BS if ever I heard it.

I doubt she would be. So is it a goer for you?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 11/06/2026 13:50

Are we about to play citizenship swap? Usually that’s the last card turned over when we get to this point of the thread.

Everyone who is happy to allow unfettered migration please step forward. Anyone who is happy to revoke their citizenship to their western country and allow an asylum seeker to take their place please raise your hand.

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 13:52

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 11/06/2026 13:50

Are we about to play citizenship swap? Usually that’s the last card turned over when we get to this point of the thread.

Everyone who is happy to allow unfettered migration please step forward. Anyone who is happy to revoke their citizenship to their western country and allow an asylum seeker to take their place please raise your hand.

Yep paperwork is ready to go for any takers.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2026 13:58

PigletAdventures · 11/06/2026 13:28

Gosh, you're exhausting!

Extremely, I’m tired reading the same ridiculous point over and over.

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:59

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 13:48

I doubt she would be. So is it a goer for you?

Why would she not be? She is an immigrant and all immigrants are dangerous...

Gotta 'protect are wimin and girls' right?

I don't want a goer no, I am not a whore...

Why did you say you wanted me harmed?

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:59

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2026 13:58

Extremely, I’m tired reading the same ridiculous point over and over.

I know it is pathetic hearing

"Not white men but all brown men"

Absolutely tedious!

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 14:08

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:59

Why would she not be? She is an immigrant and all immigrants are dangerous...

Gotta 'protect are wimin and girls' right?

I don't want a goer no, I am not a whore...

Why did you say you wanted me harmed?

Ok… a goer means do the swap.

I don’t think you can decide if she’s dangerous or not.

I doubt a Sudanese woman would be, I think she’d be relieved to be out of a conflict zone <understatement>

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2026 14:09

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 13:59

Why would she not be? She is an immigrant and all immigrants are dangerous...

Gotta 'protect are wimin and girls' right?

I don't want a goer no, I am not a whore...

Why did you say you wanted me harmed?

Women immigrants are not the problem.
Nor are immigrants being burnt out across Europe, there has been some violent incidents, sadly, but generally it isn’t common across Europe where immigration is causing massive problems.

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 14:18

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 14:08

Ok… a goer means do the swap.

I don’t think you can decide if she’s dangerous or not.

I doubt a Sudanese woman would be, I think she’d be relieved to be out of a conflict zone <understatement>

But immigrants are dangerous...hence why the call to 'protect our women and girls' and 'government have a duty to protect us from immigrants'

I mean that is what everyone on here has been saying that immigrants are dangerous...

She is dangerous based on the fact she is an immigrant as we have been told all immigrants are dangerous and are here to invade and take over....right?

You think immigrants now come here to be safer.....ahh really? So why are you all for sending immigrants into danger zones and get harmed?

A goer means 'a whore'..

Can you answer why you said you would like harm to come to me?

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 14:22

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2026 14:09

Women immigrants are not the problem.
Nor are immigrants being burnt out across Europe, there has been some violent incidents, sadly, but generally it isn’t common across Europe where immigration is causing massive problems.

All immigrants are the problem so says the ppl on here...hence the argument of 'unvetted' comes across.

Or are 'unvetted' women ok? And no female from another country has ever been violent you say??

So you saying immigrants are not an issue now, or yes? So why are ppl on here happily saying that all immigrants need to go as they are a danger...?

Why is immigration a problem? I mean by all means ask for British immigrants to come back home if they are problematic where they live.

There was two close to me - one this week and one about a month ago....but immigrants buildings being torched is fair game, right?

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 11/06/2026 14:35

A moratorium on accepting male asylum seekers. Too high risk. Do whatever we have to to make this happen.

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 14:48

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 11/06/2026 14:35

A moratorium on accepting male asylum seekers. Too high risk. Do whatever we have to to make this happen.

A moratorium on accepting males....full stop. Too high a risk. Do whatever we have to do to make this happen.

Loopylalalou · 11/06/2026 16:30

While most likely the victims of violence themselves, whether domestically or in a wider context, women from unstable areas may also have their judgement skewed by experience. Question just how many Somali/sudanese children grow up to become involved in knife crime. Disruption has existed for so long in some areas, that their moral compass must swing alarmingly. Add in an isolation from mainstream society, and never learning the ‘rules’ of western life and chaos is likely.
I feel pity for these people but the problems within their countries need resolving, not the running away to blight elsewhere.

Rubuxus · 11/06/2026 16:45

For men: We need a values test, language test and an aptitude test. As well as a background test. And then you are on probation. To be deported if any crime is committed.

That sounds harsh - only educated people can come. But seriously how can you expect people to integrate if they cannot speak the language, understand basic principles, you cannot even teach people if they don’t have some basic level of understanding.

And I say this because I recently watched a documentary of the taliban after America left. One of their leaders was trying to work out 67 x 100. He plucked 235,000 of his head (I guess because I can’t remember - but there was no logical reasoning). But that was shocking. I knew their views were backwards but I didn’t actually understand how dumb some men in the world are. Thats the level of brain power of my 4 year old.

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 16:46

Yetanotherone12 · 09/06/2026 19:42

Agree.

Leaving the Dublin agreement has made it tough though as there simply isn’t room, unless we start building massive detention facilities.

it also hasn’t helped that we’ve lost access to Schengen databases. Farage and Brexit have created much of the immigration issue themselves.

what we need is much faster processing of asylum applications as well, get them turned round and sent home straight away if they don’t have a valid application.

Here we go again.

1). This whole debacle kicked off thanks to ‘The Merkel Wave’.
2). Prior to them coming here on boats they arrived in the back of lorries and intimidated drivers coming to the UK. The UK was successful in returning only a very small handful back to France.
3). It’s the EU that is the problem. The EU’s slack borders. They could adopt a tougher stance like Poland and Hungary have, but what have they done? Penalised Poland and Hungary for proactively protecting their borders.
4). The Belfast murderer arrived in Belfast via France then Dublin, not the UK.
5). The EU could also take a firmer stance to prevent these people exploiting the asylum system and ECHR. But they don’t. We have a situation where we struggle to deport criminals on the most shockingly idiotic excuses imposed on the UK by the ECHR, and you think the EU membership was ever going to help.

The EU is fully responsible for every single rape, murder and assault. They are culpable because they have failed to protect their borders, and tolerated idiocy over protecting their citizens. And the likes of Starmer, the lefty liberals and lawyers are party to it as well.

By wanting to be a part of the EU you are on the side of the rapists and murderers coming to these shores. Yes, you are, own it.
There, that’s sorted it for you.

Honeyhonay · 11/06/2026 16:58

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 16:46

Here we go again.

1). This whole debacle kicked off thanks to ‘The Merkel Wave’.
2). Prior to them coming here on boats they arrived in the back of lorries and intimidated drivers coming to the UK. The UK was successful in returning only a very small handful back to France.
3). It’s the EU that is the problem. The EU’s slack borders. They could adopt a tougher stance like Poland and Hungary have, but what have they done? Penalised Poland and Hungary for proactively protecting their borders.
4). The Belfast murderer arrived in Belfast via France then Dublin, not the UK.
5). The EU could also take a firmer stance to prevent these people exploiting the asylum system and ECHR. But they don’t. We have a situation where we struggle to deport criminals on the most shockingly idiotic excuses imposed on the UK by the ECHR, and you think the EU membership was ever going to help.

The EU is fully responsible for every single rape, murder and assault. They are culpable because they have failed to protect their borders, and tolerated idiocy over protecting their citizens. And the likes of Starmer, the lefty liberals and lawyers are party to it as well.

By wanting to be a part of the EU you are on the side of the rapists and murderers coming to these shores. Yes, you are, own it.
There, that’s sorted it for you.

Utter rubbish. The UK is entirely in control of who it allows into and to remain into the country.
It doesn’t need to grant asylum or give dangerous criminals status to legally remain in the UK.
It’s not the EU’s job to police or stop anyone coming to the UK.

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 17:07

Honeyhonay · 11/06/2026 16:58

Utter rubbish. The UK is entirely in control of who it allows into and to remain into the country.
It doesn’t need to grant asylum or give dangerous criminals status to legally remain in the UK.
It’s not the EU’s job to police or stop anyone coming to the UK.

Not utter rubbish.

What a pity you were incapable of grasping the point I made, but I’m not surprised.
You seem to think that EU membership would help sort this out for the UK. The experience of other EU nations, including Republic of Ireland demonstrates this clearly not true. The only EU countries who are not dealing with a backlog of this EU shit are Hungary and Poland who have been penalised by the EU, much as we would be if we were members again.

As for the UK, we have control over legal immigration, we struggle to have control over the ones arriving on boats, and previously (when we were members of the EU) in lorries. Time and time again we failed to deport sick criminals because the ECHR has intervened. And how do these scum get over here? That’s right, via the EU’s slack borders.

Try to keep up.

Loopylalalou · 11/06/2026 17:08

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 16:46

Here we go again.

1). This whole debacle kicked off thanks to ‘The Merkel Wave’.
2). Prior to them coming here on boats they arrived in the back of lorries and intimidated drivers coming to the UK. The UK was successful in returning only a very small handful back to France.
3). It’s the EU that is the problem. The EU’s slack borders. They could adopt a tougher stance like Poland and Hungary have, but what have they done? Penalised Poland and Hungary for proactively protecting their borders.
4). The Belfast murderer arrived in Belfast via France then Dublin, not the UK.
5). The EU could also take a firmer stance to prevent these people exploiting the asylum system and ECHR. But they don’t. We have a situation where we struggle to deport criminals on the most shockingly idiotic excuses imposed on the UK by the ECHR, and you think the EU membership was ever going to help.

The EU is fully responsible for every single rape, murder and assault. They are culpable because they have failed to protect their borders, and tolerated idiocy over protecting their citizens. And the likes of Starmer, the lefty liberals and lawyers are party to it as well.

By wanting to be a part of the EU you are on the side of the rapists and murderers coming to these shores. Yes, you are, own it.
There, that’s sorted it for you.

Agree.

PinkandPerky · 11/06/2026 17:48

something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring

What is the government doing to prevent this kind of horrific event? The attempted murder of an entire family last night . . .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yzdwe785qo

A man dressed all in black pours fluid on a fire at the front of a house.

Firebomb thrown at imam's Bolton family home in 'targeted' attack

Footage shows a man approaching the house before soaking a cloth in liquid and setting it on fire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yzdwe785qo

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 17:53

PinkandPerky · 11/06/2026 17:48

something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring

What is the government doing to prevent this kind of horrific event? The attempted murder of an entire family last night . . .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yzdwe785qo

I mentioned this happening close to me and it was ignored by ppl on here. Conveniently....we can absolutely guess why....

They do not care when it is non-whites targeted.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2026-05-14/police-investigating-arson-attack-on-cafes-muslim-prayer-room

Here is another one....

Seems to be a trait of the British to set houses and buildings on fire of ppl who look different to them or believe different things. Such a dangerous group of fire starters...

Not sure anyone will care on here, they see ppl of other ethnicities as 'less than' them.

I mean not one of them has said they were outraged when that white person tried to cut the head off a muslim man....wonder why?

Somerford · 11/06/2026 17:57

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 17:53

I mentioned this happening close to me and it was ignored by ppl on here. Conveniently....we can absolutely guess why....

They do not care when it is non-whites targeted.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2026-05-14/police-investigating-arson-attack-on-cafes-muslim-prayer-room

Here is another one....

Seems to be a trait of the British to set houses and buildings on fire of ppl who look different to them or believe different things. Such a dangerous group of fire starters...

Not sure anyone will care on here, they see ppl of other ethnicities as 'less than' them.

I mean not one of them has said they were outraged when that white person tried to cut the head off a muslim man....wonder why?

Edited

If we're so awful, it would be best if migrants and asylum seekers went elsewhere wouldn't it? For their own good. They'd benefit hugely if we closed our borders entirely, in fact it'd be immoral if we didn't.

Samysungy · 11/06/2026 17:59

Somerford · 11/06/2026 17:57

If we're so awful, it would be best if migrants and asylum seekers went elsewhere wouldn't it? For their own good. They'd benefit hugely if we closed our borders entirely, in fact it'd be immoral if we didn't.

I am a migrant...why should I move back to my home town and leave my job?

I mean moving from one UK city to one UK town really will not benefit me...why will it?

I have never crossed a border but I am a migrant....do you not know what a migrant is? Seems not! Many British ppl are migrants in Britain.....

You saying British ppl should never move towns or cities - why not?
Why should British ppl not ever move for work etc and where should they go exactly?

I am a white British migrant....where should I go to?

Closing borders would not stop British migrants. Ppl like me would still be migrants in the UK....

KatiePricesKnickers · 11/06/2026 18:02

The government need an ICE and start aggressive deporting illegal immigrants, and detaining anyone who can not have their history verified in the meantime.
Otherwise, hello Prime Minister Farage.