AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

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'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

But she would experience torching...she would be on the list...you know the one that you seem to ignore...

And after her tea she would go home and she would suffer...I am sure she would say it is a grand place when she sits amongst the ashes of her house with nothing left and violent men threatening her...

You are happy for the torching, you seem quite happy to excuse it and justify it.

And you saying there is no conflict zone in a place where houses are burning says it all eh?

So you would get pleasure from seeing me raped there or raped here? Which one would bring you the most pleasure?

So tell me, why are rapist with passports a good addition to the UK? The vetted ones here to rape and abuse...

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Given that you want to keep ppl safe, why are you talking about bringing immigrants in?

Surely that is a security risk bringing that woman in as immigrants are bad ppl and here you are saying you want one in the country.

What will she do to you and the locals? Are you going to go to prison for bringing a violent criminal into the country?

I mean it stinks of hypocrisy in saying all immigrants are criminals and need deporting and then in the next breath saying you want to have a cup of tea with an immigrant you brought over....

Which is it?

I mean you saying she would be happier as it is more dangerous there kind of explains why immigrants leave...right?

And you want to send all these immigrants back to be raped and killed?

Why?

These are all serious and unacceptable acts of violence. We have seen school stabbings, an attempted beheading with an axe, racially aggravated riots, and an attempted beheading with a knife. While the circumstances and motivations differ, each case involves individuals who view violence as a legitimate response to their grievances or beliefs.

Whether the influences originate in Bristol, Belfast, Sudan, or elsewhere, the common thread is not ethnicity, nationality, or religion, but a failure to prevent people from becoming radicalised into violence. That points to systemic failures in education, social support, mental health provision, community integration, and early intervention.

None of this excuses the perpetrators' actions. They are responsible for what they did. However, it is likely that many of them are, at least in part, products of the same social failures.

And that other saying about playing chess with a pigeon. There's an excruciating example of that going on right now.

Let’s see. I think she’d be happier here and even better if she was a mother with DDs who would be safer. I don’t think she would suffer more as you seem convinced of but I’m happy to enable a swap.

I think there would be many takers in Sudan, are you someone who would be a yes but in the other direction?

If you could just confirm the swap if that’s what you’d do that’d be great.

So you support immigrants now?

Why do you want to engage with this dangerous woman and bring her to the UK where she will harm everyone and put lives at risk....

So in your eyes if we send immigrants back to where they live they will be in danger and come to harm and that is ok by you?

So you saying what:
Some immigrants are ok?
Some immigrants are not a danger?
Some immigrants are at risk and here because their home was dangerous..

I’m up for your swap. It sounds good. I think those suffering women and girls would be better off here.

Gosh, you're exhausting!

You think they would be safer here...

So you are all for immigrants and the boats now?

What a turn around.

What you mean is you hate that your argument has more holes than swiss cheese and hate it when ppl draw attention to it.

No that’s your mistake. The asylum system is entirely male centric, as said on many threads.

Women and girls can’t get out. But if you’re offering to swap that’s great.

There’s some horrific stories where I’d choose to get those women and girls here rn. It’s great you think it’s about the same and would go.

No, I just think this isn't a healthy or constructive way to engage in discussion.

Nah it is not male centric....many women are also claiming asylum.

Females make up 46% of those seeking help from the UK.

Women and girls do get out....but hey you saying you support such men and women and kids is great.

Why did you suddenly change your tune and want immigrants to be welcomed?

How many of those women and girls are violent and going to cause harm? Or do you not care?

It isn't healthy to turn a blind eye to crimes committed by white men and say that all brown men are criminals.

But here we are.

You’re also missing Labour’s recent policy changes re family reunification.

I haven’t you’re just a terrible, if very committed, follower of posts. I’ve been saying it’s male centric on every thread.

Care to answer the questions.....?

Why do you support immigration now and want to put lives at risk here?

Not sure you know this but 46% is almost half (ps 50% is half) 😂

Then do something about it! Write to your mp, counter protest, join action groups.

I already do....shame you do not. Thing is I support ALL victims and want ALL perpetrators stopped....not welcoming rapists here with a passport as apparently that is perfectly fine....

Your idea that just all brown men are criminals and all white rapists are grand to carry on...

Why do you not care enough to do something about it?

Labour has changed policy recently.

I don’t want to put lives at risk I’m taking you up on your offer to swap with a Sudanese woman. Sounds better at every post.

Good. Keep it going. Be the change.

You said you did, you said you wanted violent Sudanese immigrants to come here....and have a cup of tea with you before they go off and be violent.

Sounds like you wish me harm...any reason for that? Something a violent person would say....

I already helped change the law to protect women and girls.....

Great to ensure that women and girls who are victims of all men are supported not this line that Restore are swinging that says lets deport rape victims....but hey that'll be what ppl like you support right?

A Sudanese woman. She won’t be violent.

Are you for the swap or not?

You're clearly just looking for an argument. Continue to put your energies into campaigning.

But she is unvetted and so unvetted immigrants are a risk....

Right?

You saying women are never violent? That is BS if ever I heard it.