AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

[Northermcharn]

'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

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Shit.

With the attempted beheading of a Muslim by that neo-Nazi, and these firebomb attacks on the homes of Muslim children, I'm amazed that the Muslim community aren't the ones out rioting.

It's bloody horrific on all sides.

Its almost comical at this point.

I would suggest closing the borders completely to all - students, tourists etc.

It would be immoral to leave them open and let any Tom, Dick or Harry come in with a wave of their 'vetted' passport and let them rape...

Comical....

What because I have moved cities to work and you said I should not have done that?

Comical is you not knowing the difference between a migrant and an immigrant! ha ha!

The person who carried out the attack in Belfast was given the right to stay in the UK by the British government, it was fast tracked and includes less checks than many claims need in order to be processed which included no interview. Again, entirely rhetorical UK’s own responsibility.
FS we leave the EU and you still try to blame it for everything and anything.

Ok, sure

Why not?

Why let more in?

Yes, I agreed with you. Nobody should be allowed to come here and that's for their own good. Recent arrivals should leave also.

Let’s try again shall we.

Your assumption is that we were safer and could process these people more effectively when we were members of the EU.

Umpteen attacks and rape cases across the EU prove this is total utter tripe.

The fact that the man got to Dublin via France in the first place says everything about the bullshit EU checks system as well. He was not stopped anywhere.
He got to Belfast thanks to shit control of borders.

No doubt weak UK policy plays its part, but then it hasn’t helped that the ECHR has form in preventing deportations either, not to mention the lawyers and virtue signallers. Throwing millions of tax payer cash at France hasn’t helped either.

Regardless, I suggest if you wish to avoid debate on the topic, you stop trying to insist that the influx of these people is all down to the UK government and that the EU offers the answer, when clearly that is utter Remainer BULLSHIT. They caused this problem in the first place. They make the journey because they can get through EU countries very easily.

This whole crisis is overwhelming the EUs fault. That bursts your EU bubble for you I know.

And you Remainers insist Leave voters are thick, and yet cannot grasp what is in front of you.

Absolutely....

No one leaves and no one comes.

Do you not like going on holiday abroad?

No that’s not my assumption at all, where did I say that? Stop making things up.

Literally nowhere did I say the EU offers the answer, I merely stated the EU can’t be blamed for policy within the UK like granting settled status to people. You’re arguing with yourself it’s bizarre.

I despise Labour but out of all of them, she seems the only one with any common sense

They let one of these vile men out on bail, the CPS advised against it but were ignored - and now surprise, surprise they don't know where he is.

It sounds like it is a huge problem unfortunately and nothing is being done:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6e0021vjjo

You’re completely correct.

The Sudanese man came in via Dublin. There are no checks. This will increase. The Rwanda scheme drive people to ROI over that border but idiot Starmer scrapped that on day one.

Now ROI will travel to NI. It’s an absolute mess. And the EU database is a farce. Similar crimes happen all over the EU. It’s bullshit to mollify electorates.

He was granted the right to be in the UK legally by the conservative government, the only people responsible are those who legally allowed him to remain in the UK. Not ROI, not the EU, not Starmer, not Santa.
The UK needs to start taking responsibility for itself and the decisions it makes rather than constantly trying to pass the buck.

He entered through Dublin. Where are all those marvellous EU checks then?

And he won’t be the only person. Rwanda threat reversed that flow for a while but it will be securely ROI to NI now. Well done.

Who said the EU checks were marvellous, but frankly they’ve got nothing to do with the UK. The EU is free to set its own policy as is the UK.
The uk government didn’t have to grant him legal status. Perhaps if his application wasn’t fast tracked and he actually had a physical interview more holes could have been spotted in his story and asylum claim. You cannot blame another political entity for your own failing.

Eh the checks are pointless. Politicians use them as done kind of sop to electorates.

I blame Starmer for dropping Rwanda as the flow will firmly be towards NI.

The ONLY way to fix things is to make the UK a less desirable destination. Benefits, council housing, no requirement to work, practically zero chance of being deported, and plenty of opportunity to work illegally or engage in criminality - all these are a huge magnet.

Look at all the barbers/vape shops/mini marts - when “regular” shops are struggling and cannot afford staff, how come a barber’s has six blokes swinging in the chairs on their phones but no customers? We can all see it but no, officially nothing to see here as usual.

You blame Starmer for what?
The attack in Belfast?

I don’t think this is controversial and the reason this hasn’t been done is because successive governments haven’t wanted to, the tories and Labour have both had ample opportunity to change state help to new immigrants.
Why this hasn’t been a priority is honestly baffling.

Can you read what the post says, after the word for..

Yes, you could find reason to blame that weak sop Starmer for more or less everything that’s worsened during his government. He’s the figurehead, he’s accountable.
As shackled with fools like Reeves and Milliband and the many ineffectual in his cabinet why oh why can he not see that change is needed now and quick. But that’d involve making a decision and sticking to it, something he seems to find impossible.
Lets hope that change happens soon.