AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

[Northermcharn]

'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

Agree. We need some kind of mass facility to temporarily house them while we establish where they came from and return them. If they omit to say; we should take an educated guess and then pay the country in question some money to take them back. If they’re not actually from that country then they can make their own way back.

Or, you know, we could just deport them and have no civil wars at all?

Of course they rape women in their own countries. The women have little recourse to justice as they’re ‘shamed’ by it.

Sudan won’t be keeping records of violent men nor sharing them.

Of course not. So there’s fuck all to go on bar ‘we don’t think he’s a murderer/rapist’

your government's agenda is to import more and never stop, apparently. Have to say my government also but I am foreign married with a British man and did not apply for a citizenship on purpose. I'd rather go back where I am from if things here continue with this rate. At least my country is much more controlled in these regards and our men are not playing games of masculinity but are actively masculin and protective.

Which country is that? And why are you married to a Brit and not one of them?

Sudan has a lot of problems with Muslim extremists killing and raping Christians for decades. There is no wonder why they exported this behaviour here

I’m sick of it to be honest. And as the mum of a 9 year old little girl, these stories worry me.

https://www.unwomen.org/en/articles/faqs/how-women-and-girls-are-being-targeted-in-the-war-in-sudan

The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has reported that at least 118 people had been subjected to sexual violence, including rape, gang rape, and attempted rape in Sudan as of mid-December 2023, including 19 children.

from a different thread. That’s the tip of the iceberg.

It is one of the central EU countries. God married me to whomever He did, lol. Destiny is not a choice.

I’m surprised you didn’t choose a manly protector in your home country, that’s all.

where to ? They often come undocumented so can’t say where they come from.
Turn them away - yes but you can’t let them drown in a dinghy.
Close the borders, agree. It’s difficult as we need skilled migrants the NHS wouldn’t survive without overseas staff.

Yep. There’s no way to know and given the situation in Sudan which includes high level violence, which was just witnessed here, we should probably think about how safe it is to have pretty much no checks.

You can read all over facebook what men post under such news regularly in the comments section: men from all over Europe are aware what is going on in the west and according to them, the governments of the West are actively forcing ethnical and religious wars onto the whole of Europe and nobody still can understand the logic of these governments

I don’t think they’re forcing it on us, but the only proper action that can be taken to stem the tide involves mild human rights abuses and the optics of it will look bad (like ICE in the USA). The alternative is ever increasing riots and vigilantism. They’ll have to take their pick.

We need to lock down our borders. Other countries do it so why can’t we?

You haven't provided the source for your assertion - which in fact comes from a reported claim about a leaked analysis that was never published. You also haven't either noted that the statistic refers to suspects rather than persons convicted.

The racism (and sexism too if we're to be honest) is that people on here are effectively arguing for restrictive immigration policies based on the idea that men from Muslim countries are generally rapists. While statistically, it's a tiny, tiny proportion. The vast, huge majority of men from Muslim countries (including those seeking safety here) are not rapists and are decent human beings, as are most people. Please read that over.

I think if there is one more stabbing or assault etc then the protests will start, we’ve had enough at this point. Illegal immigration in this country is a huge problem. The goverment need to stand up for their people, and stop worrying about being called fucking racist.

Which countries “lock down their borders” ?

The source is with the original reference. So yes -I did provide it. Stop lying.

'Please read that over' Oh dear! Bless you. You think you're smart.. Sadly..

Eta: There are approximately 2 billion Muslims in the world today. This makes Islam the second-largest religion globally, with adherents accounting for roughly 25% of the world's total population.

You do the maths. I hope I need not explain further to you. In any case I won't. I'm bored with you now, you've provided no critical thinking or debate whatsoever.

Please stop believing this bullshit about the NHS.
I've worked in the NHS since 1990.
We have trained qualified nurses, midwives and doctors here- UK citizens who cannot get jobs because they are given to foreign nationals who take a grade/pay cut to come here.

They come undocumented for this exact reason. So what? Not our responsibility.
If they had to live in a detainment camp- permanently- maybe that would disincentivise

Australia has operation sovereign borders which has been going for a while, under both govs

If people try to enter by the coastline they don’t get in.

Surely the problem is that there are very large numbers of immigrant men who are not going to attract any women. We are not talking about doctors etc, but low-skilled, poorly-educated males with little English and unenlightened views. British males, however much people like to sneer at them, have a community and friends and family network.

I can’t imagine Muslim girls are going to be too keen, let alone their families!

So we get, inevitably, sexual assaults. Or maybe we will have to tolerate prostitution as it’s hardly likely that all these men are going to sign up to a lifetime of celibacy.

Australia springs to mind. Is it easy to get into America etc? Come on, stop playing dumb and defending illegal immigration.