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To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

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Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:22

I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

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BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 18:23

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 04/06/2026 18:08

I’m beyond disgusted at how Starmer attempts to lie and gaslight and deflect the blame for thr increasing division and tensions in society that he is responsible for onto others.

Im not sure that you think is so terrible about TRs words - are swear words beyond the pale now? Is that your biggest objection to his speech?

Rather than nitpicking about a swear word, why not engage your thoughts with the substance of his words which is to reflect a truly terrible situation that has come to pass due to the actions of those in authority?

Do you mean his words when he said he predicted this happening? “Pakistani Muslims attacking a white kid and when the police turn up they jump on the white kid” Those words?

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 18:54

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 18:23

Do you mean his words when he said he predicted this happening? “Pakistani Muslims attacking a white kid and when the police turn up they jump on the white kid” Those words?

He was talking about a different boy called Bailey which is a terrible story. The Pakistanis came to the little boys house kicking the door in threatening to rape the boys 9 year old sister.

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 18:59

bloooooberry · 04/06/2026 17:07

Ok, keep playing dumb. We all totally believe you were looking for templates people can use to email their local MPs.

The evidence is literally on this thread which people are free to read.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:00

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 18:54

He was talking about a different boy called Bailey which is a terrible story. The Pakistanis came to the little boys house kicking the door in threatening to rape the boys 9 year old sister.

These words from the Southampton protest. Just after he’d thanked people for turning out “for Henry”.

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:06

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:00

These words from the Southampton protest. Just after he’d thanked people for turning out “for Henry”.

He was giving an example of how this type of thing that's happened with Henry (white boys being disbelieved by the police) has been going on for a long time.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:10

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:06

He was giving an example of how this type of thing that's happened with Henry (white boys being disbelieved by the police) has been going on for a long time.

I mean his words are pretty clear, but maybe you could provide a link to the case so we can see the connection.

Grammarnut · 04/06/2026 19:10

KeepPumping · 04/06/2026 13:14

Maybe the police involved should be jailed as well as sacked?

I don't know. They will say they followed protocols and procedure because everything is 'managed' now and no-one cares if managing something actually does anything.

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:14

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:10

I mean his words are pretty clear, but maybe you could provide a link to the case so we can see the connection.

Do you live in a cave? How are you not aware of this story about Bailey and his 9 year old sister that the pakinstanis threatened to rape because she is white... The entire family are living in hiding years after this incident, do you think that is ok?

Oh I guess because Robinson is the one to highlight it (with other journalists I need to add) the little 9 year old girl nor her older brother matter do they?

I noticed that at no point have you commented to say that it's awful about the boy and his 9 yr old sister.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:15

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:14

Do you live in a cave? How are you not aware of this story about Bailey and his 9 year old sister that the pakinstanis threatened to rape because she is white... The entire family are living in hiding years after this incident, do you think that is ok?

Oh I guess because Robinson is the one to highlight it (with other journalists I need to add) the little 9 year old girl nor her older brother matter do they?

I noticed that at no point have you commented to say that it's awful about the boy and his 9 yr old sister.

Do you have a link to that story?

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:16

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:15

Do you have a link to that story?

not to hand, no!

Grammarnut · 04/06/2026 19:23

Jellox · 04/06/2026 13:58

They weren’t asked to say it.

Henry despised the likes of TR and others trying to create a divide in this country.

He had many friends of different cultures, including those from the Sikh religion.

Even if you didn’t know him personally then there are many examples online of screenshots of his SM accounts etc showing how supportive he was of the BLM movement and disliking people like TR and Farage.

Even the judge in the case, said he doesn’t believe he would have said anything racist because he wasn’t like that and everyone can agree to that who knew him or know about it.

The family didn’t say this because ‘they were asked to’, they said it because they know their son and knew that he would have hated it.

All that appears to be true and he was a nice lad. It does not remove the fact that Henry Novak died being called a racist because the police have been told to accept all accusations of racism as true. And there was a racist attack here. It was on Henry Novak. That being so, it is germane to the question whether the police are institutionally racist towards non-black people.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 19:27

Grammarnut · 04/06/2026 19:23

All that appears to be true and he was a nice lad. It does not remove the fact that Henry Novak died being called a racist because the police have been told to accept all accusations of racism as true. And there was a racist attack here. It was on Henry Novak. That being so, it is germane to the question whether the police are institutionally racist towards non-black people.

How often do you think the police are called to an assault by an alleged victim and don’t treat them as the victim when they get to the scene? Some of the time? Most of the time?

RapunzelHadExtensions · 04/06/2026 19:29

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 09:23

He's spot on.

Wasn't it only last year his lot were saying polish migrants were eating swans?

He's not their friend and couldn't care less about poor Henry.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 04/06/2026 19:30

7854RRF · 04/06/2026 16:18

What a revolting post. We can't do anything about Henry's murder, no-one can bring him back.

We CAN however, show him some respect and dignity but USING HIS NAME PROPERLY, and not adding 'fucking' in the middle of it.

If you can't see the OP's point then maybe the least you can do is not use this thread to make pointless, sarcastic comments.

You and other PPs seem to be in danger of shooting the messenger.

Farage and TR would have nothing to say if Starmer acknowledged the very real concerns of many of the British public, stopped calling us all ‘far right’ or ‘racist’ and tried to ensure his government was governing for the benefit of all citizens, not just the ones who agree with his views that are increasingly detached from reality.

The language he used in his speech was not pleasant but if that is really the worst thing he said and you and PPs are more focused on swear word than the very real issues at hand, I think you have the wrong priority.

A number of people have now died because the people in positions of authority are far too focused on the race of the perpetrators and extremely reluctant to act if the perpetrator is not white.

That is far more divisive and destructive to our society than anything Farage and TR could dream up. They are just reporting on what is happening. If it wasn’t happening they’d have nothing to say.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 19:32

RapunzelHadExtensions · 04/06/2026 19:29

Wasn't it only last year his lot were saying polish migrants were eating swans?

He's not their friend and couldn't care less about poor Henry.

Yawn. Sick of hearing he couldn't care less about Henry. He certainly cares more than Starmer does.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 19:34

So the Nowak family has said there needs to be common sense policing. Let's see if the proponents of respecting Henry's family's wishes are going to acknowledge this or keep denying two tier policing.

Northernladdette · 04/06/2026 19:57

Mapleandleaves · 04/06/2026 10:56

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a plumber, it's one of the most important jobs in society. We'd all be living in shit, quite literally, without them. However, a plumber from Makersfield is not a high profile candidate in the slightest and the guy is most definitely a wrong un. He's a nobody in comparison to Matt Goodwin who anyone who has been paying attention to politics, especially far right politics, is aware of. My point is they aren't doing as well at they pretend they are. If they were they would have fielded a very high profile candidate to fight Burnham. They haven't as they're still licking their wounds over the fact they lost to a very capable and competent plumber in G&D.

Makerfield 😉

Vanillaicelatte · 04/06/2026 20:30

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:27

What? You agree it’s okay to refer to Henry Nowak using an offensive swear word?

If it get the point across then yes

CaragianettE · 04/06/2026 20:34

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 19:16

not to hand, no!

Well if you can’t even find a link then it’s not really that surprising people haven’t heard about it, is it? ‘Do you live in a cave’ you made it sound as if it had been all over the front of major newspapers for weeks.

Vanillaicelatte · 04/06/2026 20:36

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:42

This is not about left or right or centre. It’s about how TR referred to Henry Nowak, which should matter if you truly care about what happened to him and how his murder is being disgracefully exploited and his name tainted with an offensive word.

I’m sure Henry and his family wouldn’t mind a tainted offensive word if it meant he was still alive and yes they have been dignified in the most heartbreaking way

I’ve been stabbed

don’t think you have mate

RIP Henry Nowak

You will not be forgotten

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 20:39

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Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 20:40

CaragianettE · 04/06/2026 20:34

Well if you can’t even find a link then it’s not really that surprising people haven’t heard about it, is it? ‘Do you live in a cave’ you made it sound as if it had been all over the front of major newspapers for weeks.

I have just tried posting the link but MN has blocked it. Search for it on Google if you want to see it. It really isn't that hard to find.

bloooooberry · 04/06/2026 21:07

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 20:40

I have just tried posting the link but MN has blocked it. Search for it on Google if you want to see it. It really isn't that hard to find.

I’ve tried extensively to google this using the key words you’ve mentioned and nothing at all came up. What website was the link from?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 04/06/2026 21:07

LilacDrift · 04/06/2026 18:20

You really think Tommeh cares? He probably saw pound signs as soon as the news came out.

Why is it relevant whether he cares or not?

The important thing is how many British people feel and are being constantly verbally attacked, shut down and discriminated against by our own government and those in authority.

bloooooberry · 04/06/2026 21:12

bloooooberry · 04/06/2026 21:07

I’ve tried extensively to google this using the key words you’ve mentioned and nothing at all came up. What website was the link from?

Hang on. Are you talking about the Syrian refugee who was bullied by Bailey McLaren and Tommy Robinson falsely claimed that the refugee had attacked two schoolgirls? He admitted this was fake news. Are you aware Tommy Robinson was sued for libel and ordered to pay the refugee £100K + £500K legal costs? And that he then went on to produce a film where he repeated these false claims, for which he was found to be in contempt of court?