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Sex trafficking by refugees in the UK

287 replies

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 13:48

7 afghans charged with human trafficking. Most from Norfolk, one from Scotland an eighth the CPS will have to extricate from Ireland. They're accused of trafficking young teens.

They're uk refugees officially.

Aibu to say charge, if found guilty ship them back to Afghanistan?

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Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:26

Meadowfinch · 22/05/2026 18:23

How is that relevant?

That doesn't make these disgusting men any better.

We can't get rid of home grown rapists but we need to kick out those that we can, and ensure they are never allowed back.

It isn’t relevant…. Just they like to pedal the same line on every thread to gaslight people! It’s pathetic.

Marmalademorning · 22/05/2026 18:33

Fasthearty · 22/05/2026 17:50

Yes, the attitudes of the men from Afghanistan was my point of concern, then it got derailed by the child marriage nonsense.

I wish we could home the innocent women and girls of Afghanistan and turn the men away. Because it them who are suffering most under the regime there

I would definitely be agreeable to this.

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 18:33

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:22

What a load of gaslighting shite!

Oh dear. It’s too lovely an evening for me to waste it arguing with someone so stupid they don’t even understand what gaslighting means. Perhaps I should have realised by your misuse of it in the previous post, that you aren’t bright enough to grasp the point. Anyway, off for a G&T in the garden. Have a lovely evening.

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:34

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 18:33

Oh dear. It’s too lovely an evening for me to waste it arguing with someone so stupid they don’t even understand what gaslighting means. Perhaps I should have realised by your misuse of it in the previous post, that you aren’t bright enough to grasp the point. Anyway, off for a G&T in the garden. Have a lovely evening.

Awww what’s wrong! Aren’t you able to gaslight me? And yeah special extra points for trying to pull the “racist” card. More gaslighting shit! Good riddance!

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 18:35

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 17:41

Do you think men here don’t rape, traffic and abuse women and girls? I work with victims of such crimes and you are not only wrong to think this is purely a “culture” issue but you are an appalling person to try to turn these girls’ horror and pain into a chance to score racist political points.

The sheer ignorance of people who support right wing agendas because they think those groups or parties genuinely care about women and girls makes me weep.

So you're saying that the right wing abhor rape, whereas the left wing are compassionate and understanding. Give over.

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Marmalademorning · 22/05/2026 18:36

SweetSummerHerbs · 22/05/2026 16:57

I really think that they don't.

They will have heard some eejit spouting this, probably someone they admire, and think that if they repeat it, not only will it make them look intelligent but also act as a Gotcha moment.

That is why the education system is being turned to shite, so that people like that poster can be easily manipulated.

Too numb to know they are numb, alas. More to be pitied than laughed at, poor thing.

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It’s shocking how thick some people are isn’t it?

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 18:38

OH and 99% of voters think IANBU. That's a good enough majority I think 🤔

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Yetanotherone12 · 22/05/2026 18:41

Meadowfinch · 22/05/2026 18:23

How is that relevant?

That doesn't make these disgusting men any better.

We can't get rid of home grown rapists but we need to kick out those that we can, and ensure they are never allowed back.

We do.

convicted non citizens serve their sentence and are deported

Yetanotherone12 · 22/05/2026 18:42

Imaginary86 · 22/05/2026 18:24

You should be deported to your country of origin if you commit crimes in the UK. It shouldn’t be the Uk taxpayers responsibility to pay for these scum bags, especially deported for crimes as disgusting as this

they are. Convicted non citizens are deported.

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:44

Yetanotherone12 · 22/05/2026 18:41

We do.

convicted non citizens serve their sentence and are deported

And then what? We should just allow hundreds more of them here on a daily basis to allow the opportunity for some of them to commit crimes? So basically one lot serve a prison sentence and get deported, meanwhile hundreds more come here and replace them. It needs to stop

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 18:44

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 18:35

So you're saying that the right wing abhor rape, whereas the left wing are compassionate and understanding. Give over.

Not at all, I’m saying that the right wing are exploiting people’s (correctly felt) abhorrence of such crimes, for their own ends. They don’t give a shit about women and girls. Look at Reform’s proposed policies and the impact they would have on women generally but also victims of such crimes. Repealing the Human Rights’ Act? No one who cares about victims or understands the law would do that. It’s just a bandwagon to jump on to frame their racist agenda as one of concern for these women’s plight. And as someone who has spent my life working with victim-survivors of these crimes, it’s genuinely depressing to see how many women have swallowed their lies.

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:45

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 18:44

Not at all, I’m saying that the right wing are exploiting people’s (correctly felt) abhorrence of such crimes, for their own ends. They don’t give a shit about women and girls. Look at Reform’s proposed policies and the impact they would have on women generally but also victims of such crimes. Repealing the Human Rights’ Act? No one who cares about victims or understands the law would do that. It’s just a bandwagon to jump on to frame their racist agenda as one of concern for these women’s plight. And as someone who has spent my life working with victim-survivors of these crimes, it’s genuinely depressing to see how many women have swallowed their lies.

Oh the racist card again 😂

bumptybum · 22/05/2026 18:46

Shudacudawuda · 22/05/2026 14:16

FFS why is the first reply turning on the OP? That's the bit that angers you? JFC

Well yes, the abuse of women is the bit that angers me. What bit angers you more than that?

SweetSummerHerbs · 22/05/2026 18:49

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:45

Oh the racist card again 😂

Anyone that can read about a woman or girl being raped and can manage to weave the word "racist" into the discussion as a stick to beat anyone with is an unforgiveable cunt.

Meadowfinch · 22/05/2026 18:49

Yetanotherone12 · 22/05/2026 18:42

they are. Convicted non citizens are deported.

No they aren't. If they have a child here, their right to a family life means they are not deported. It makes it desirable for these men to impregnate a woman, as their way to stay
The system stinks. It is based wholly on the abuse of women.

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:50

SweetSummerHerbs · 22/05/2026 18:49

Anyone that can read about a woman or girl being raped and can manage to weave the word "racist" into the discussion as a stick to beat anyone with is an unforgiveable cunt.

Exactly. It makes me sick! Making excuses for them raping women and girls and then calling people “racist” for calling it out. Obviously got a screw loose somewhere!

Middlechild3 · 22/05/2026 18:51

Some cultures regard Western women fair game. If they don't respect the law of the land they should be rejected immediately. Send them back to Afghanistan.

Farawaytreemagic · 22/05/2026 18:58

Middlechild3 · 22/05/2026 18:51

Some cultures regard Western women fair game. If they don't respect the law of the land they should be rejected immediately. Send them back to Afghanistan.

Agreed.

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 19:04

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 18:45

Oh the racist card again 😂

I know sigh. She'd feel a right fool if she met my relatives. Many families from more than one continent. My own are a mix of three continents. We all hate rapists.

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IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 19:04

SweetSummerHerbs · 22/05/2026 18:49

Anyone that can read about a woman or girl being raped and can manage to weave the word "racist" into the discussion as a stick to beat anyone with is an unforgiveable cunt.

Funnily enough, I think people who take this horrendous case and turn it into a discussion about refugees are the unforgivable ones. As I said earlier, I work with victims of these crimes. I gave up my lucrative career as a solicitor to do so, because I feel so strongly about it. But I am sure you are doing loads to help these women and girls, and not just posting shit on MN…

FleurDeFleur · 22/05/2026 19:04

Marmalademorning · 22/05/2026 18:33

I would definitely be agreeable to this.

Me too. That awful report of girl children being sold by their fathers absolutely horrified me. What a vile society.

IdaGlossop · 22/05/2026 19:05

Farawaytreemagic · 22/05/2026 18:58

Agreed.

Nations that respect the rule of law, including the UK, can't just 'send them back to Afghanistsn' or anywhere else without an extradition treaty and without respecting the ECHR. If Reform end up forming the next government, any laws that don't allow Reform to respond positively to the siren call of its populist agenda will be trodden underfoot, just as they are in the US now. If you're shouting 'deport! deport!', be careful what you wish for.

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 19:05

justasking111 · 22/05/2026 19:04

I know sigh. She'd feel a right fool if she met my relatives. Many families from more than one continent. My own are a mix of three continents. We all hate rapists.

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Flyingintotheunknown · 22/05/2026 19:10

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 19:04

Funnily enough, I think people who take this horrendous case and turn it into a discussion about refugees are the unforgivable ones. As I said earlier, I work with victims of these crimes. I gave up my lucrative career as a solicitor to do so, because I feel so strongly about it. But I am sure you are doing loads to help these women and girls, and not just posting shit on MN…

Oh the irony. You work with rape victims but are happy for “refugees” to come here and rape women! Think you’re in the wrong job love!

SweetSummerHerbs · 22/05/2026 19:16

IdealisticCynic · 22/05/2026 19:04

Funnily enough, I think people who take this horrendous case and turn it into a discussion about refugees are the unforgivable ones. As I said earlier, I work with victims of these crimes. I gave up my lucrative career as a solicitor to do so, because I feel so strongly about it. But I am sure you are doing loads to help these women and girls, and not just posting shit on MN…

Are you really?

Hmmmn!

However, just in case.. maybe with your sympathy towards these rapists-probably just refugee and foreign ones with your shouts of "racist"--then maybe you are doing these girls and women a dis-service and should stop immediately .

With friends like you, they hardly need enemies. Disgraceful,

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