Sex trafficking by refugees in the UK

[justasking111]

7 afghans charged with human trafficking. Most from Norfolk, one from Scotland an eighth the CPS will have to extricate from Ireland. They're accused of trafficking young teens.

They're uk refugees officially.

Aibu to say charge, if found guilty ship them back to Afghanistan?

Having read about half the thread, the doublethink from some posters here (or the wilful blindness) is incredible. Let’s go through some basic facts.

• Every nation on earth is misogynistic to some degree, and has issues with sex equality, sexual violence, and CSA.
• Some countries are much, much more misogynistic than others, and oppress women to a far greater degree, with inequality being seen as the norm or even preferable by the majority of society, instead of a problem to be fixed.
• Afghanistan is one of the very worst (if not the worst) nations, where women now have fewer rights than livestock, and are viewed as less human than men by the vast majority of the population (even many of the women themselves, probably). The dehumanisation is abject.
• Many other undeveloped nations suffer from similar issues, where the misogyny is magnitudes greater and more normalised than Britain. You can see that in those countries' statistics, where marriage at a young age, rape, pay inequality, domestic abuse, FGM rates etc are much higher. In many countries I imagine rape rates are massively underreported, as many married women probably don’t understand that they should be able to say ‘no’ to their husband, and much of the sex they have would be considered marital rape in Britain.
• Britain already has, like all nations, too many men who are rapists and paedophiles, and suffers from a lax attitude to VAWG. To introduce more men from cultures that are vastly more misogynistic is like adding HIV on top of cancer – it makes the situation exponentially worse as it shifts the Overton Window, emboldens British-born men, and creates issues with authorities being afraid of being called ‘racist’.

IMO, only women and children who are accompanying them from nations that are deeply misogynistic should be allowed into the country as refugees. The men are both the problem in their home countries, and also the only solution. If they emigrate, they have no motivation to change the situation in their home countries.

They also import their beliefs into Britain, and will either treat their ‘own’ women just as poorly while here, or they will treat British women and girls poorly. Send them back, and allow the women and children to stay and assimilate into British culture, with all the freedoms it affords them. I don’t care if that splits up families – a good man should just be happy his wife and children are safe in Britain. She'll get education, and find work, and have a better life than one in Afghanistan.

I’m not usually in favour of the death penalty for most cases (I’m leery of the government having the power to execute people) but frankly, if the British government wanted to drop these men back in Afghanistan by pushing them out of a plane (without a parachute) I’d be fine with that. I’m sick to death of men (whatever their ethnicity) raping and abusing women and children, and I have less than no sympathy for them.

"people perceive their stance towards women to be worse than ours"

I'm sorry, are you genuinely trying to imply that the stance towards women in Afghanistan is not worse than Britain's, and people only perceive it to be such?

Honestly, it’s pointless trying to explain. They are in complete denial and spew the same lines over and over again….. “rapes are also committed by white men”, “there aren’t many rapes by migrants”, “they are all stupid Tommy Robinson Supporters” and “They are far right and racist” and “where are you getting your information from?” Despite there being numerous daily news reports about it! It’s as if they are robots that have been brainwashed by their puppet Master Keir Starmer.

They are in denial with their fingers in their ears saying “La la la I don’t hear you” and making excuses for all these rapes or denying they ever happened, or downplaying and dismissing it anyway by claiming it’s ok because white men also do it, which if it wasn’t so serious it would be laughable! Just let them carry on in their little bubble thinking everything is great! One day they may wake up when it happens to them!

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Base rate fallacy

Huh? The statistics are all readily available and not difficult to interpret, white British men are the main problem, not refugees

They can serve their sentences and then be deported. We need to have a hard look at who we are putting in prison who should not be there. There are far too many women who are in prison for non violent crimes who have been pushed into criminal activity through addiction.

Pp‘s point is correct.
Most sexual assaults in the UK are committed by white British men because they are the majority of men in the UK.
You need to look at the per capita numbers to determine which group is more likely to commit a certain crime.

You can’t tell them anything. Many, many people have replied to that poster and said exactly what you have just said. That same poster then comes back on here and repeats the same thing again despite people answering their previous post with logical information.
Like I said before, they are in denial, completely oblivious and have no logical argument to put across, they just pedal the same robotic lines over and over again on every thread “people who are concerned about the amount of boat migrants raping women and children are racist”, “white people commit the most crimes” in a white dominated country, “it’s ok for migrants to rape children because British born men do it anyway”. And it goes on and on like that without ever changing the record.

This, from 2017, seems quite interesting:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/what-do-we-know-about-the-ethnicity-of-sexual-abuse-gangs

"According to the best available data, Asian men make up 75 per cent of “Type 1” group abusers, who target children and young women because they are vulnerable.
But white men make up 100 per cent of recorded “Type 2” group abusers, who target children because of a longstanding paedophilic interest.
From the information available, we know that actual number of group abusers who are Asian is around three times higher than the number of group abusers who are white."

While "Abuse by lone offenders is much more common than abuse by groups [...]CEOP’s report doesn’t include data on the ethnicity of lone child abusers, and the government doesn’t publish comparable information."

So of the statistics we have, we know that Asian men are 75% of opportunistic group sexual offenders against children and teenage girls, while paedophiles who commit group sexual offences against children are white.

So...white men only tend to commit group sexual offences against children if they're paedophiles, while Asian men will do it opportunistically, despite not having specific paedophiliac interests? That's what I'm getting from it. Although I'm not sure how they work out that the Asian men aren't paedophiles if they're sexually offending against children?

Additionally, as the government doesn't include data on lone offenders, we have no clue whether the offending profile for lone abusers is the same as for group abusers, or whether it varies.

Indeed. Iran takes in the highest proportion of asylum seeking migrants. The vast majority of people seeking asylum DO stop at the first safe country. Whether or not an individual agrees with the principle, the UK actually receives a tiny proportion of the global asylum population.

What a load of shit and complete denial! Pathetic

So if every single young male coming across on a boat immediately raped a woman on entry, that wouldn't be a problem as the "majority of perpetrators of sexual violence against women and girls would still be white British men" (around 30,000 males arrive in boats versus around 70,000 rapes in the uk per year).

Same old same old. We've even got so called rape counsellors now putting the poor sensitivies of rapists before the victims in her 'care'. Then there's the what about America 😆 🤣 what about Albania. What about the white men who rape in the UK. All predictable bollocks from the usual gaslighters. Then you don't know what gaslighting is do you, doubling down on their gaslighting. Being racist towards racists makes them weep. Fuck off love. Women protecting men so they can say well at least WE aren't racist. Sick.

Yep, couldn’t have put it better myself. They don’t seem to realise just how ridiculous and pathetic they sound. Tying themselves in knots trying to make up and twist stories to make it sound like the rapists are innocent and we are the evil racists lol!

They’re absolutely fucking delulu!