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'Trump rushed from White House correspondents' dinner after suspected gunshots heard'

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mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 01:52

Surely he's not pulling this trick again?

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RingoJuice · Today 08:17

You ve a POTUS who is by any measure right wing

He is really not very right wing. He doesn’t go hard enough on many issues important to conservatives

Iran not having Nukes may be a worth while aim but has Trump achieved this? nope, far more likely they will go all out to have one now

Their ability to make a bomb is very much reduced. I think they are going to go with the ‘lawn mower’ approach that Israel does. I don’t give a fuck, Iran gets zero sympathy.

supported by Russia, which will Trump will not stand up too

So you don’t want America attacking Iran, but you do want America to attack Russia? Russia hasn’t done anything to Americans like Iran did during the American occupation of Iraq. Few appreciate what happened there via proxies (which is the reason why Soleymani in particular was targeted)

Then there is his actions on Cuba, starving the population of food, energy for hospitals, medicines, its pure evil

EU is one of Cuba’s major trading partners. So is China.

Nobody is obligated to trade with a hostile regime. Access to American markets is not a right.

TopPocketFind · Today 08:24

RingoJuice · Today 05:36

Do you ever get tired of lying?

He was not a Trump supporter. His family and friends were, but it was noted he was ‘quiet’ and never talked politics. The Epstein thing did apparently radicalize him tho

I am not lying.

I bet in your eyes he is a 'leftie'

Alexandra2001 · Today 08:32

RingoJuice · Today 08:17

You ve a POTUS who is by any measure right wing

He is really not very right wing. He doesn’t go hard enough on many issues important to conservatives

Iran not having Nukes may be a worth while aim but has Trump achieved this? nope, far more likely they will go all out to have one now

Their ability to make a bomb is very much reduced. I think they are going to go with the ‘lawn mower’ approach that Israel does. I don’t give a fuck, Iran gets zero sympathy.

supported by Russia, which will Trump will not stand up too

So you don’t want America attacking Iran, but you do want America to attack Russia? Russia hasn’t done anything to Americans like Iran did during the American occupation of Iraq. Few appreciate what happened there via proxies (which is the reason why Soleymani in particular was targeted)

Then there is his actions on Cuba, starving the population of food, energy for hospitals, medicines, its pure evil

EU is one of Cuba’s major trading partners. So is China.

Nobody is obligated to trade with a hostile regime. Access to American markets is not a right.

We'll have to disagree on your first 2 points.... a POTUS threatening to invade a NATO country, threatening to back Argentina against the UK... all middle of the road stuff for the far right!

Iran still has all its own nuclear material, much may well now be outside the country, they'll be a few countries willing to help with the tech required.... how is the price of petrol going in the USA right now? 😂

On Russia, where exactly did i say Trump should Attack Russia? err i didn't... the far right always lie, its in their DNA.

Trump admires Putin, he allows him free reign, without criticism.

Trump isn't just stopping Cuba from trading, yet again you distort what i said... The USA is blockading Cuba, stopping oil from other countries.

Doesn't care about the human cost and neither do you.

TopPocketFind · Today 08:34

The Trump administration lifted the sanctions on Russian oil, temporarily they say. We will have to see if that is true.

Darker · Today 08:45

DT saying he wasn’t bothered by the events on Saturday seems really odd.

Maybe he thinks he’s invincible.

RingoJuice · Today 09:07

On Russia, where exactly did i say Trump should Attack Russia? err i didn't... the far right always lie, its in their DNA

What exactly do you want America to do then? Send a few mean tweets?

Trump admires Putin, he allows him free rein, without criticism

He treats him like he treats Xi, because you need a working relationship with these kinds of powers. What’s the point in haranguing Xi personally?

Trump isn't just stopping Cuba from trading, yet again you distort what i said... The USA is blockading Cuba, stopping oil from other countries

Yea it’s meant to be a pressure tactic since the US controls or is unfriendly to its previous oil sources. Tbh I personally think it’s best if Mexico is allowed to ship oil but the US probably has a strategy in place, maybe they will make a move after the midterms.

They are definitely planning big moves, you can be sure Rubio is pushing hugely for it, it’s pretty much the dream of all Cubanos stateside

BelleHathor · Today 09:14

Well he did post that picture of him as Jesus a doctor and this is his faith advisor Paula White comparing Trump to Jesus:

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 09:23

Alexandra2001 · Today 07:55

I think the idea is for KC to convince Trump and fix relations between him & Starmer ... we shall see.

I think to cancel, would lead to Trump having a huge row with UK/Starmer...

It was a good opportunity/excuse to cancel.
I hope the King is brave enough to challenge him as rolling out the red carpet, the dinner he hosted in the UK did not help build relations or dampen the DT’s constant attack on the UK.

Unrelated. They were all smiling like naughty toddlers at the pre written after speech. Dana White gave a very strange reaction to the event, Trump sitting like a Buffon while people scattered around and Vance was rushed away. At least DT felt safe enough to do an interview with 60 minutes. It’s so embarrassing for the American people.

RedTagAlan · Today 09:35

TopPocketFind · Today 08:34

The Trump administration lifted the sanctions on Russian oil, temporarily they say. We will have to see if that is true.

Japan are buyers of Russian oil. And the tankers are nowhere near the SoH.

Eskarina1 · Today 09:44

RingoJuice · Today 06:03

How does Pol Pot not enter into these conversations? Guy kills a quarter of the population, kills anyone modestly educated, so much so that it couldn’t effectively develop later on, the country even today feels subdued compared to its neighbors. Leftist violence cut down the most talented and intelligent people, and they’ve still not really recovered.

But it is bleak comedy what happened to Malcolm Caldwell, defended the Khmer Rouge in the West but then killed by them after actually showing up. And of those naive Westerners who went to China in the early days to support the communist movement, many ended up jailed and most were deeply disturbed by the Cultural Revolution.

Westerners are really sleeping on the horrors of leftism. Even in America, people have largely forgotten what leftist activists did in the 70s and 80s, stuff I had never been taught in school. You had a leftist group kidnap a judge and blow his head off, there’s this picture of this guy with a shotgun taped to his neck. Leftist groups had bombed the Capitol at least twice, sent bombs to a few other government buildings. Cops had been murdered by the Black Liberation Army, famously Chesa Boudin’s parents were involved in that.

I just don't think anyone really buys that Hitler and the Nazis were "leftism".

I would call myself left wing because I believe firmly in reducing inequality, I believe in things like universal healthcare free at the point of use, abortion rights and marriage equality. I want companies to be ethical - pay fair wages, not use child or forced labour, not use unsafe materials etc. I think we have a global responsibility and that international aid makes us safer.

That doesn't remotely align me with the Nazi party. The othering of people by race, sexuality, religion, disability is completely at odds with everything I believe in.

The extremes on both sides have more in common with each other than anyone else.

Darker · Today 10:18

Really there is no point arguing using only extreme examples.

I don’t think Trump is necessarily left or right. He is interested in power and money for himself. I don’t think for a minute he cares whether tariffs or wars or getting rid of migrants will make the USA a better place for American citizens. He cares that people notice him and that markets react, and that important people on the world stage come to his door.

Alexandra2001 · Today 10:57

RingoJuice · Today 09:07

On Russia, where exactly did i say Trump should Attack Russia? err i didn't... the far right always lie, its in their DNA

What exactly do you want America to do then? Send a few mean tweets?

Trump admires Putin, he allows him free rein, without criticism

He treats him like he treats Xi, because you need a working relationship with these kinds of powers. What’s the point in haranguing Xi personally?

Trump isn't just stopping Cuba from trading, yet again you distort what i said... The USA is blockading Cuba, stopping oil from other countries

Yea it’s meant to be a pressure tactic since the US controls or is unfriendly to its previous oil sources. Tbh I personally think it’s best if Mexico is allowed to ship oil but the US probably has a strategy in place, maybe they will make a move after the midterms.

They are definitely planning big moves, you can be sure Rubio is pushing hugely for it, it’s pretty much the dream of all Cubanos stateside

Putin is attacking a European country, killing 10s of 1000s of people.

Russia has always been the USA's "enemy" yet under Trump, Russia is far more of an ally.

Trump has no problem haranguing the UK, the EU, NATO, the UN but i do not believe (correct me if i'm wrong) has ever had a go at Putin, didn't he say that it was a genius move that he invaded Ukraine?

Not quite sure why you've bought in Xi.... as China isn't invading countries, wrecking the worlds economy...

TopPocketFind · Today 12:06

Putin got the red carpet treatment from Trump, Zelenskyy got ridiculed for not wearing a suit.

RingoJuice · Today 12:30

Alexandra2001 · Today 10:57

Putin is attacking a European country, killing 10s of 1000s of people.

Russia has always been the USA's "enemy" yet under Trump, Russia is far more of an ally.

Trump has no problem haranguing the UK, the EU, NATO, the UN but i do not believe (correct me if i'm wrong) has ever had a go at Putin, didn't he say that it was a genius move that he invaded Ukraine?

Not quite sure why you've bought in Xi.... as China isn't invading countries, wrecking the worlds economy...

If you want a deal with Russia, then you have to treat Putin like an equal power. Same goes for Xi wrt to Taiwan. Russia is in no way treated like an ally, how do you figure that beyond flattery meant to bring him to the negotiating table?

Forthesteps · Today 12:35

Alexandra2001 · Today 10:57

Putin is attacking a European country, killing 10s of 1000s of people.

Russia has always been the USA's "enemy" yet under Trump, Russia is far more of an ally.

Trump has no problem haranguing the UK, the EU, NATO, the UN but i do not believe (correct me if i'm wrong) has ever had a go at Putin, didn't he say that it was a genius move that he invaded Ukraine?

Not quite sure why you've bought in Xi.... as China isn't invading countries, wrecking the worlds economy...

Isn't wrecking the world economy YET.
China certainly wants to exploit it for their own advantage and become THE pivotal power. It won't end well for us.

Also talk to the Tibetans and other minorities about Han colonialism.

Alexandra2001 · Today 13:35

Forthesteps · Today 12:35

Isn't wrecking the world economy YET.
China certainly wants to exploit it for their own advantage and become THE pivotal power. It won't end well for us.

Also talk to the Tibetans and other minorities about Han colonialism.

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Uh?
The wrecking of the world economy is baked in, even if hostilities stopped today.

China doesn't want this at all, it will and is causing issues for their economy right now.

But you and the pp do like to deflect with this "whataboutery" bringing in dictatorships to justify Trump.... interesting you both make these comparisons.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:00

China doesn't want this at all, it will and is causing issues for their economy right now. Hugely so, working class people are genuinely struggling to heat and eat, shein and temu shopping stopped, Amazon prime stopped, never mind the impact from fuel.
I listened to a podcast on the indigenous Christian community in Israel. I’d no idea how threatened they are, very ignorant to their history until I saw the Israeli soldier smashing the head off Jesus in Lebanon. There is less than 1% left, hanging on by a thread. I ignorantly thought that America wouldn’t tolerate this.

RingoJuice · Today 17:49

Alexandra2001 · Today 13:35

Uh?
The wrecking of the world economy is baked in, even if hostilities stopped today.

China doesn't want this at all, it will and is causing issues for their economy right now.

But you and the pp do like to deflect with this "whataboutery" bringing in dictatorships to justify Trump.... interesting you both make these comparisons.

You do have to be cautious because China will come for Taiwan someday. It’s a matter of when, not if.

You can see the Chinese perspective in that the Nationalists legitimately lost the Civil War, they believe they are only regaining a rogue province.

Snakebite61 · Today 17:50

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 01:52

Surely he's not pulling this trick again?

He has. It's clearly obvious.

Jupitercore · Today 17:52

President Donald Ducked the 3rd.

Snakebite61 · Today 17:52

Darker · Today 08:45

DT saying he wasn’t bothered by the events on Saturday seems really odd.

Maybe he thinks he’s invincible.

He'd a moron. Just like the people who support him.

nOlives · Today 17:53

EconomyClassRockstar · Yesterday 03:01

I thought he'd just pull a sickie rather than turn up. But no, Trump can't do simple.

I guess it wasn't raining.

Snakebite61 · Today 17:54

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 02:23

Trump on Truthsocial

No truth in it.

Doverboy · Today 18:02

Maybe you should focus on Prince William attempting to boot King Charles from throne. Remember to curtsy.

Stigolini · Today 18:07

The headline makes it look as though DJT legged it. The line should read, "Trump was rushed from the building" (by security).