'Trump rushed from White House correspondents' dinner after suspected gunshots heard'

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

Surely he's not pulling this trick again?

As an alternative theory, going by the many responses in this thread that seem to be glad of the attack and disappointed that it failed, is that maybe just maybe there are people out that actually want to try and kill Trump, and that this individual was such a person.

Seems a bit more plausible than Trump recruiting organising a "cohort of vulnerable young men" and then persuading them to attempt a fake assassination attempt on Trump where they are at a real risk of being killed- all in the name of patriotism .

Despite this it seems that there are still large numbers of people who do believe that Trump and his administration indeed spend their time recruiting vulnerable people for fake assassination attempts, presumably they believe this or "know" this because they are are so much better "informed" or know more than the rest of us. Or it could be that they are simply weird conspiracy theorists.

“This is why we need a ballroom at the White House!”

Surely this is staged??? Call all the world press on Sunday (of all days), to witness how yet another sniper misses his target? I bet we will be hearing aplenty tomorrow about how Trump’s God’s chosen one surviving so many “assassination” attempts and miraculously regrowing an ear, when it is just clearly a distraction from all the mess and misery the US are dishing out around the world?

Extremely timely imo, as a court just ruled that Trump would require congressional approval and ordered the above ground construction halted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r48mgnzmjo

The MAGA (what little that's left of them) "Paytriots" all got their botted talking points and repeated them like the clapping seals that they are 😉😄

So the work on the ballroom was legally stopped because the work lacked proper environmental assessments, and proceeded without filing plans with the National Capital Planning Commission. Basically he didn't bother following the planning process.

But now we literally have people suggesting that Trump organised a fake assassination attempt on himself just in order to get his planning approval.

I don't know where you're getting the figure of 11-12 million deaths at the hands of Hitler from, but it's far too low. Estimates of as many as 17 million deaths directly attributed to the Nazis are frequently cited (e.g. by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum) and that's before you look at total deaths as a result of WW2, frequently estimated at between 70 million and 85 million.

“Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I’m not the person raped in a detention camp. I’m not the fisherman executed without trial,” it said. “I’m not a schoolkid blown up, or a child starved, or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration. Turning the other cheek when someone else is oppressed is not Christian behavior; it is complicity in the oppressor’s crimes."

“I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes."

"In order to minimise casualties, I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs (less penetration through walls). I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary (on the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, and are thus complicit) but I really hope it doesn't come to that."

Those are the bits of the "manifesto" that I've seen quoted in the press.

It reads as genuine sentiment, to me.

I think the instinct not to trust a thing that comes out of the Trump administration is a sound one. If they have no credibility, they have only themselves to blame. Nonetheless, the simple explanation is usually the best, and I don't see any compelling reason to buy into "false flag" theories, here.

This is a reasoned take and I understand

I still just think the simplest answer is that its an inside job 😕

Well, perhaps consider whether Trump would want a note with the above contents to be widely circulated in the press.

I don't buy it, but I could cobble together an explanation for why he might want to include the pedophile accusations - he could use it as evidence that accusing him of abusing young girls is a national security threat, as a new means of continuing the cover-up.

Even then, though - we are talking about a man who cannot bear criticism - his ego is such that I can't imagine him wanting to "put some out there" even if it were to use to his advantage - especially with Epstien stuff largely out of the headlines at the moment.

Including references to the bombing of the girls' school in Iran is harder to find a compelling angle on - but with the Iran conflict ongoing, you could stitch something together.

The apparent extra-jurisdictional murders of fishermen, though, and the un-Christian nature of his administration...I just don't see that making it in.

People wanting Trump dead, and one in a million being sufficiently motivated to do something about it - its the obvious explanation and fits far better.

I don't particularly care if people buy into false-flag stuff here, but I do think it a bit silly.

The co-ordinated talking points by MAGA influencers on the ballroom is telling as is the super quick release of the shooters manifesto and the video of him with JD Vances wife. Butler 2.0.

So was it just about the ballroom, likely not.

According to sources in the Whitehouse Susie Wiles has only recently started telling Trump about how badly he is polling with his base due to Epstein, Iran etc. He's on course to lose bigly at the midterms which means impeachment and his family being investigated.

Rich Baris is a "MAGA" pollster who has been warning about Trump betraying his base and the chickens coming home to roost for over a year, this stream from a few days ago is enlightening. The first 45 minutes conveying what previous Trump synchophants now feel are devastating.

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Why wouldn’t there be people angered enough by Trump to try? Look at how strongly people feel about him.

I'm posting from Canada.

Care to try to convince me that Iran presents the more immediate threat than the US?

But even from a UK perspective, you're posting about how the US's actions in Iran could potentially make the UK more vulnerable to terrorism.

And I don't recall Iran making threats on the Falklands or on invading EU/NATO countries.

Starmer's "very special letter" with the invite for the state visit, and Charles being sent out there now (admist a pattern of insults and threats from the US), show just how much of a threat to the UK the US is believed to be, under Trump.

I ain't a lawyer, but I am sure Trump and his MAGA pals are wrong about the WH ballroom. It is Federal property ( or will be), so the Hatch act will apply. And that says federal property and staff can't be used for partisan politics. And given that the WH correspondents are not part of Government, would they even be able to use Fed property for what is a private political function?

I am thinking "look ahead" here. What would the repubs say if the next Dem POTUS used the ballroom for such a private function ?

Article attached gives examples of when the Biden admin were said to have broken it.

What is the Hatch Act? | CNN Politics

Do you ever get tired of lying?

He was not a Trump supporter. His family and friends were, but it was noted he was ‘quiet’ and never talked politics. The Epstein thing did apparently radicalize him tho

How does Pol Pot not enter into these conversations? Guy kills a quarter of the population, kills anyone modestly educated, so much so that it couldn’t effectively develop later on, the country even today feels subdued compared to its neighbors. Leftist violence cut down the most talented and intelligent people, and they’ve still not really recovered.

But it is bleak comedy what happened to Malcolm Caldwell, defended the Khmer Rouge in the West but then killed by them after actually showing up. And of those naive Westerners who went to China in the early days to support the communist movement, many ended up jailed and most were deeply disturbed by the Cultural Revolution.

Westerners are really sleeping on the horrors of leftism. Even in America, people have largely forgotten what leftist activists did in the 70s and 80s, stuff I had never been taught in school. You had a leftist group kidnap a judge and blow his head off, there’s this picture of this guy with a shotgun taped to his neck. Leftist groups had bombed the Capitol at least twice, sent bombs to a few other government buildings. Cops had been murdered by the Black Liberation Army, famously Chesa Boudin’s parents were involved in that.

i admit I didn’t really care about Iran either way, would have preferred Trump focus on mass deportations and solidifying his agenda in Congress than pick a fight with Iran.

But having relocated to the Gulf (maybe not long term LOL), Iran fucking sucks. Why would you attack your neighbors, for literally no reason? Not just military bases, but civilian infrastructure too?

Yeah, they shouldn’t have nuclear weapons

No i don't think they recruit people to try and "kill" him...

IF there is an inside job, its that they create the circumstances to enable an attempt, knowing that they can keep Trump safe, were they already aware of this threat?

This guy was allowed to come n go from the Hotel with very little security, Sky reporters say they were never searched (neither was anyone else) getting into the perimeter of the Hotel....

You'd have though after 2 or 3 failed attempts, security around Trump would be extremely tight but it doesn't appear to be....

& why the note? the sort of thing you might give him if Trump's limo was about to get a parking ticket.

Do you think Epstein's death was all above board..... & just a remarkable coincidence.

I feel like if 3 people have tried to off you it’s probably a sign you’re being a bit of a dick.

Surprised the King is still attending tbf, I mean the stuff he has said about the UK alone would be enough for them to decline.

It's grotesque that there's a royal visit planned.

The Supreme Court stopped the ballroom extension because there needed to be a requirement for national security.

Well, how about that, looks like they have their excuse now.

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Yet the most extreme violence seen in Europe was from the Nazi's, KR had ideology centred on Marxism yet its killing methods were more akin to what the far right has done....

UK had an MP murdered by a far right extremist.

Perhaps its better to say that any form of extremism usually leads to violence?

You ve a POTUS who is by any measure right wing, he has used violence to do what he wants, bullies countries and individuals.... Iran not having Nukes may be a worth while aim but has Trump achieved this? nope, far more likely they will go all out to have one now, supported by Russia, which will Trump will not stand up too.
Then there is his actions on Cuba, starving the population of food, energy for hospitals, medicines, its pure evil.

Now he is wrecking the worlds economy for his and his friends financial gain....

I am very surprised that the visit is going ahead.
It is the perfect opportunity for both to cancel. Trump will be set out to adore the King but slam the uk government, it’ll be interesting to see how King Charles will react?

I think the idea is for KC to convince Trump and fix relations between him & Starmer ... we shall see.

I think to cancel, would lead to Trump having a huge row with UK/Starmer...

I think to cancel, would lead to Trump having a huge row with UK/Starmer...

Agree. I don’t think those who decide these things really have any choice.

KC will have his own security people there as well, if security is the worry.