New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

Andrew Lownie must be feeling vindicated. Sarah is hiding out in UAE. She's been smart skipping the country.

https://youtube.com/shorts/h3YpdkyxqDo?si=BgVRhVeEEiePLGam

On the suggestion of cannibalism... 'Eating' can of course mean oral sex on a woman. Or in this case perhaps a paedo on a young victim, a 'baby'.

Oh I see.

I am no conspiracy theorist but women and children were clearly harmed in large number and it’s no beyond the realms of possibility that some were murdered.

Eating babies claims just muddy the waters. Even if they are true, unless they are proven, I think they make anyone making these claims appear hysterical and untrustworthy. They are claims so big that really they can only be made with significant evidence.

I think anything is possible now, the evil and depravity already revealed shows there were very few red lines.

All releases of info so far have been done in a 'flood the zone' manner.
This is of course deliberate, to make it harder to comb through the details.
It is imperative that prosecutions are well grounded so more likely to suceed.
It's extremely difficult to get a prosecution for an 'ordinary' rape / CSA case, yet alone ones committed by very powerful men with enormous legal resources.
Plus Trump has rigged/destroyed the judicial system. People are hamstrung.

I have thought for some time that there was more than 'just' the rape of underage teens. We know Trump is a rapist. So, it has to be worse.
Many men in power will continue to push the boundaries further & further.
They think they are invincible (with good reason as it seems they are)
Some will be happy with the underage girls on tap on the island.
Some will be interested in even worse 'offerings' at the ranch.
So more awful abuse/torture/disposal of younger victims is very possible.

I feel uncomfortable with those saying that the onus is purely on the victims to prove all this. Virginia Guiffre did her very best. I do not believe she died at her own hand. Others will be terrified, either of similar or of being accused of being complicit or simply 'outed' when they're trying to build a life post CSA (hard).

I’ve just looked at the Department of Justice, Jeffrey Epstein. I put in jerky to search.

I believe it all happened. I think rich powerful men are capable of anything

She's definitely a wrongen though

If that happened then some of these people are clearly psychpaths and should be arrested.

It all makes me think of that horrible torture porn film, Hostel. I watched that accidentally some years ago - about backpackers who are kidnapped so rich men can torture them to death for sport - and now it seems like it might actually have been a documentary. What the hell?

Pretty sure neither she nor Epstein died at their own hand. I'm also pretty sure Epstein was an agent for some hostile state so was pushing these rich and powerful people to be depraved as possibly for blackmail/control purposes.

The problem is that people at the highest levels are also involved with this stuff. Which is why Jimmy Savile got away with his crimes.

Most police officers, no of course not. But those at the top can decide to cover things up and not prosecute, either because they are involved themselves or because they were paid off.

But by whom? The high level people involved will just eventually override any police, and so many powerful people are involved that anyone who pushes further loses their job, or their lives.

Because there are an awful lot of people on this thread just making stuff up.

It does all make you wonder, doesn't it, when conspiracy shit turns out to be real, what other conspiracies might be real.

But there have been people like Corey Feldmen, or Mel Gibson, saying this stuff was real for years. And they seem a bit nutty so people dismiss them. But then - oh actually there are weird sex conspiracies among the rich and famous. Including people like Bill Gates.

It is very destabilising.

What do you think is made up specifically?

Well from my point of view - eating babies.
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen in some weird voodoo type cultures / situations. But I can’t quite believe that a group of rich and powerful men are trafficking babies for this purpose

Considering how little has emerged about the behaviour of powerful men in these crimes like Trump, Clinton and Gates, I can’t imagine anyone ever being held accountable unless they produce a patsy like Ghislaine.

The allegations are that people like Leslie Wexner sacrifice children every year to whatever god it is that they worship. To ensure they have a prosperous year. Sick and nonsensical but it’s supposedly what some people believe.

Just like others believe in reincarnation.

Fair enough, but it seems a bit much to try and discredit people who might not find it so unbelievable?
Based on what we are finding out, it seems a little naive not to keep an open mind regarding the depravity of what was involved.

I just don't know why anyone would want to. Cannibalism has mainly been a symbolic thing, culturally. That bit seems like hyperbole but as others have said - maybe it was invented so the other stuff also can be dismissed as farfetched, when really it isn't.

I'm not going to debate this with you. Pizzagate was a claim made by Trump supporters during the 2016 election campaign that Democrats were running a human trafficking and child abuse ring - from a pizza restaurant - and that Hillary Clinton had taken part in the ritual murder of a child. It has been widely discredited and was never linked to Epstein in any way. If you choose to believe the person who resurrected this story, on the grounds that a trainee lawyer told him it was true, that's on you. If you choose to believe utterly spurious claims of cannibalism - again, on you. I happen to think Epstein's victims deserve a little more respect. But if it excites you, you go ahead and enjoy it.

As you like, although the clip of Gabriela Rico Jimenez is something. She was obviously dismissed too, and possibly worse than that. Perhaps she should have been listened to.

What we are learning from reputable sources about rich and powerful men is so concerning and important for us to understand that it makes me angry when 'professional' journalists try to blur their reports just to create a sensational story, as they are doing here. This was an anonymous tip in the DOJ files. As far as I understand, the release was a dump of everything including wacky accusations sent to police from conspiracy theorists. People are now finding these in the files and saying 'it must be true then'.

For anyone interested, you can search the files here: https://www.justice.gov/epstein
Epstein was very careful in what he wrote himself though.