New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

What do you mean not debate it with you? Don’t then. I don’t know anything about pizza gate anyway.

There’s plenty about Epstein to be concerning enough.

I think you are right. I think it"s true. It makes sense. If ordinary people on the internet can engage in depravity fairly easily, as it seems they can, then juat think how much more resourceful rich powerful people are, and how much more access they have to anything they want. I think everything will come out in time but it might take years. It will end up bring studied by historians who will uncover new angles all the time, in the way people study the Tudors or domething now, with new primary sources being discovered for years to come.

The pizzagate claims started because people were concerned about inappropriate photos of children on James Alefantis’s Instagram.

JA owned the pizza restaurant.

If young girls were drugged then death might have occurred accidentally. Also, if famous people were involved they wouldn't want to risk the girls speaking out.

I've read about rich people hunting humans in war zones and shooting them as sport. The world is such a sick place, and the super rich seem to have a very dark underbelly running through it.

The other thing is that because so many of these men have lied about their contact with Epstein that even if they came out and said specific things aren’t true no-one is going to believe them.

Well the express alleges an 8yr old girl was tortured, then goes on to say it was a women, so I wouldn't believe anything they said until it was verified!

What was the clip about ?

I remember that film so well. There probably are underground groups of rich fucked up people out there.

Roth himself stated that his inspiration for this film came from an ad he came across, regarding some place in Thailand, where people sold their relatives to be shot by anyone willing to pay - talking millions here.

People have spotted that there's an excessive amount of references to 'jerky' in some emails. Also, info on how to store it in the freezer etc. (Jerky is dried and isn't stored in freezers). Seeing as their abuse references code involves food, they're thinking that 'jerky' could mean meat made from children.

If you google Gabriela Rico Jiménez it’ll give a run down of what distressed her, pretty much what’s in your op but in 2009, when and then police removing her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c70kjr9wjw0t

A distraught model outside a hotel screaming blue murder about the rich doing cannibalism. She then disappeared.

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Quite. It really isn’t far fetched that there’s such will have been newborn babies they would have wanted kept secret at all costs. Young girls do get pregnant. Obviously they can get rid of some through abortion and secret adoptions. But it really isn’t beyond the realms that some will have been killed and buried in an out of the way place.

The cannibalism does sound like a sensationalist story spread either by conspiracy theorists or by the perpetrators to make the stories sound too outlandish to believe.

I used to run a conspiracy website ages ago, and i remember coming across an article in the Guardian about snuff films, even though the general consensus at the time, was that they were nothing but urban myths. I thought I'd try and find it again, and I did find it: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/oct/01/ameliagentleman.philipwillan
One of the reasons I stopped doing the conspiracy website was because it just got too depressing. I think the Marc Dutroix one was the last I wrote up about. Just so prevalent. Anyone, at this point, who doesn't believe that the rich and maybe famous too, would never sink to the depths of depravity mentioned, are being very naive.

There were younger girls involved in the Epstein files. 10-13 year olds being checked for ‘tightness’ children’s teeth being removed to prevent biting down. A 13 year old who remembers her first time being with an Orange politician, Jeffrey Epstein saying that trafficked people are like shrimp ‘cut of the head and keep the body’…I’m not sure how true these allegations are but if they are then its horrific!

That Surrey Police is investigating does not mean that much, they're pretty corrupt, like just about every police force. They have a tendency to 'investigate' and you sit back and relax, thinking, okay, they're on it. Time passes and nothing comes of it, 'not enough evidence to proceed' but the story has died down by then, that's the idea. They do this with allegations against care homes for the elderly. I took a story about Firtree House Nursing Home in Banstead to the press, the police said they were 'investigating' but they never phoned me!

Years ago there was a story about historical sexual abuse in a Banstead care home in Firtree Road (I happened upon it while Googling my own story at a different care home in that road), you can find it on the net still probably. Victims were encouraged to contact a legal firm with allegations. This and some of Savile's goings-on in a Nork young people's home were also a thing, but nothing has come of it and one suspects people were encouraged to come forward so they could keep tabs on the story and delete any relevant files, to contain it.

Lord Mountbatten was accused of sexually abusing kids in a Northern Ireland care home, it is documented in Andrew Lownie's biography some years ago, 20 pages is devoted to it. Lownie did the recent bombshell account of the Duke and Duchess. The press has largely ignored the stuff on Mountbatten and there's been no investigation - admittedly this took place over half a century ago.

Well yes sure and I don’t know anything about eating babies! As I said I don’t know much of anything about pizzagate.

She described it to me as an elite ring who rape, torture and murder children. What do we have here. Elite group tick, rape tick, children tick, torture tick, that’s only leaving murder which other posters are talking about.

She didn’t say anything about a pizza place or eating babies. Pretty much what she said sounds true to me in hindsight.

Having now googled there is an extreme version involving a specific pizza chain, satanic stuff as previous poster said and other bonkers stuff. So not sure if I believe that.

But do I now believe the base idea of pizzagate. I don’t know. It’s not looking insane anymore

But how did she find out about it in the first place ? Do you know ?

Yep and who should be believed and why? The distressed young model or some criminals associated including Epstein. Interested to know why it wouldn’t be her.

If you read the account of the first woman to report Epstein to police - Maria Farmer - of happened to her and her sister at the New Mexico ranch - from the death threats she received afterwards and the fact she lived 25 years of her life under the radar, it’s clear what the people in that circle were capable of.

She was also held against her will at Les Wexner’s property in Ohio where she had gone to complete an artist’s commission. She only got away because her father drove from Kentucky to Ohio to pick her up. (Wexner is billionaire owner of Victoria’s Secret and Abercrombie and Fitch, close confidant of Epstein who claims Epstein stole around $40 million from him).

She only chose to speak out publicly once she was diagnosed with a brain tumour in 2019.

Oh, yes. The human safaris in Sarajevo.

Well at the point you posted, there were no other posts on this thread.

I think it's both.
I wouldn't say: 'desensitised' but the CSA & possibly more claims are so outwith most people's normality that it is hard to grasp really. It's horrible. It's depresssing. It's actually terrrifying that there is so much of it out there & we are relatively powerless (ie you are lucky not to be abused imo). That is hard to contemplate. It's much easier to not think about it. If it hadn't been a part of my life I might try not to think about it too, but I don't have that option (I don't dwell on it daily but it'll always be a part of who I am & is currently front, left & centre)

Also, yes it is so deep & widespread that it would defo bring down DJT/ current US Govt, & is currently damaging both the UK Govt & the UK Royal family.
That is a LOT of power & money & experience of making things go away.

Oh yeah, like only primitive types do this kind of thing. How many westerners have been prosecuted over the years for cannibalism? It happens. It's also connected to deviant sexual practises and quasi religious ceremonies. You might not believe in satanism, but it's not that uncommon.

List of incidents of cannibalism - Wikipedia https://share.google/K5ZirpWHSHwgwKeOD