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New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Daygloboo · 18/02/2026 23:20

Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

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Shedmistress · 19/02/2026 09:36

BeaRightThere · 19/02/2026 08:31

Get ready to be surprised then

Why? How would you know that there isn't a ranch somewhere without buried murder victims?

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 09:36

With the young woman who was model named in pp it’s clear her distress was real, it’s either real or it was filed under MH issue nothing to see here. If her distress was actually due to what she describes think of the crimes that could have been stopped had anyone listened.

I’m not sure which year it was taken. So I’m not sure what to think but the way she reacts is not off base if she did see it.

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 09:38

Qanon’s ‘predictions’ were proven false. It’s starting to become clear that whatever side of the political fence a politician is on, there are people saying they are into dark and nasty stuff. George Bush senior for example. Some of the worst claims are about him. Ted Heath is another. I still see people on MN trying to say that the claims about him were untrue.

OotontheRandan · 19/02/2026 09:40

MissSpindle · 19/02/2026 09:32

The problem is I remember people going on about Pizzagate and Q Anon at the time all thought it was a Democrat-run operation. Even some prominent Republicans bought into it as a way to smear Democrats. However now that it has actually been exposed as real but is mainly implicating Republicans and those who are friends with them, there is a lot of silence and dismissals from those who previously wouldn't shut up about it when they thought the Democrats were involved.

The whole thing makes me sick and everyone involved needs stringing up.

I may be misremembering but I could have sworn Trump was pushing Pizzagate as a thing, and something that Democrats and celebrities were involved in.

It could absolutely be either true, a lie, or a lie that was used to distract from the Epstein horrors.

I listened to recent "the rest is politics" episodes and Alistair Campbell is furious and disgusted with Peter Mandelson and how entrenched he was with Epstein. I am appalled at how Epstein was able to involve so many people (men) in power, how they were all willing to involve themselves with a man who they have to have known was not a nice guy. It makes me shudder. The fact that sex trafficking and sexual assault may be the least bad things? I can't fathom it. Part of me doesn't want to believe that there are people (men) out there who do these things with no fear of repercussions. Other than possibly blackmail from Epstein.

Those poor women. Those poor children.

NeelyOHara · 19/02/2026 09:40

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 08:57

The thing that was most concerning for me re: pizzagate was nothing to do with pizza. It was the really disturbing pictures of babies and children on James Alefantis’s Instagram.

And what was a powerful man like that doing with a small grotty pizza joint anyway? Not exactly on brand or a money maker. The artwork alone…

DeepBlueDeer · 19/02/2026 09:42

LondonPapa · 19/02/2026 09:14

Considering the contents of the files regarding pizza and grape soda (and other food items plus the jokes about pizza gate), I now believe pizza gate is real. The files are abhorrent.

That's interesting reasoning.

The problem for pizzagate is that:

  • central claims of physical evidence were investigated by many journalists and different law enforcement agencies and completely disproven,

  • most of the other "evidence" was internet fakery,

  • the remaining "evidence" was...references to pizza and pizza parties, mostly by campaign staffers, that do not appear suspicious - and where documentary evidence was actually able to confirm that pizza had been ordered for specific events and was duly provided by the relevant pizzerias.

I do not reject the possibility of pizza and similar code in the Epstien emails (some verified ones are odd, in a way that the Pizzagate ones were not).

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 19/02/2026 09:42

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 08:57

The thing that was most concerning for me re: pizzagate was nothing to do with pizza. It was the really disturbing pictures of babies and children on James Alefantis’s Instagram.

Can you explain? I haven’t heard of him and don’t use Insta.

BatchCookBabe · 19/02/2026 09:43

Link please @Daygloboo ???

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 19/02/2026 09:43

EsmaCannonball · 19/02/2026 09:01

Epstein's email about 'enjoying the torture video' was made to a rich Dubai businessman. Dubai is known for men paying to subject women to extreme sexual abuse and torture.

A couple of years ago a Ukrainian influencer's body was found by the roadside, tortured. She'd been on the party circuit, gone to a party and was not heard from again. It was reported and then nothing more was heard.

usedtobeaylis · 19/02/2026 09:52

Look what men were able to do for so long to Gisele Pelicot. One woman, many ordinary men in her own community.

Not a single thing we've heard is beyond the bounds of possibility.

TraitorsLantern · 19/02/2026 09:53

catipuss · 19/02/2026 08:34

So it's another Epstein property where he did what he did. And there is an anonymous email saying two girls were buried there, anything is possible but I don't find one anonymous email very convincing. By all means search the place, they seem to have searched everywhere else and not found any proof of the more lurid stories. What he did was bad enough without all the conspiracy theories.

I agree with this, however the Guardian reported that the ranch was never searched.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/08/epstein-files-new-mexico-ranch

From New York to New Mexico: new Epstein files shed light on his sprawling ranch outside Santa Fe

Several men appear in photos on the nearly 10,000-acre Zorro ranch, which included a 26,700 sq ft mansion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/08/epstein-files-new-mexico-ranch

NeelyOHara · 19/02/2026 09:53

The constant references to ‘pizza’ ‘hot dogs’ and ‘jerky’ are clearly codes at this point. I wouldn’t be surprised if Andrew threw in the pizza express reference as a bit of a warning to his fast disappearing mates…..as he wasn’t someone they were scared of, - threatening to spill some beans was all he had to try and get some of them to intervene and help him out.

They obviously cut him loose instead though…

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 09:53

usedtobeaylis · 19/02/2026 09:52

Look what men were able to do for so long to Gisele Pelicot. One woman, many ordinary men in her own community.

Not a single thing we've heard is beyond the bounds of possibility.

It’s upsetting any one woman was distressed and telling people and nothing, or worse even.

Brassknucks · 19/02/2026 09:54

Nimbus3000 · 19/02/2026 07:33

@Brassknucks it stood out for me in your post that the man you knew who was arrested for possession of videos - somebody somewhere made those videos, which means children were/are being tortured and murdered somewhere and by someone. I think that would be easier for people with wealth, property and impunity to do than for most people.

The majority of the children I presume from the videos from what’s been reported on in our local newspaper was children from Eastern Europe. I also should have added that for downloading those videos and images he received no prison sentence. He obviously has no friends anymore and his family have disowned him. I can’t help but think that he has received not only no prison time but also no form of rehabilitation (personally I don’t believe you could rehabilitate him, however if we allow him to remain just out in the public, it’s worth while trying something) and what’s happened to this man is he is now even more dangerous. He has learnt there is no consequences regarding his freedom, but now he is isolated and he clearly has knowledge to access the dark web. All that is created is a deeply sexually deviant lonely peadophile with nobody to talk to besides others with his prediction. What a dangerous man to start with and now he’s even more dangerous with even less to lose since he lost his job and family connections/friends. You just have to hope he never ever finds himself in a situation where he’s alone with a child. I think society need a shake up as to how many men are potentially dangerous to children. Women are taught change your routes home/no earphones/carry your key in your fist, we know that men are a danger to us and now we’re learning, for many more men than we ever imagined, that children are actually their desired target and are every bit as vulnerable as a woman walking home.
It’s affected women quite badly the release of the files because we realise now, how old we were when we were first sexualised and how fucked up it is.

usedtobeaylis · 19/02/2026 09:56

"central claims of physical evidence were investigated by many journalists and different law enforcement agencies and completely disproven"

So was child abuse in children's homes in multiple countries. Occasionally there were/are sacrificial lambs, more often there were/are cover ups. Wherever here is power there is paedophilia, abuse and harm.

AutumnedCrow · 19/02/2026 09:57

For me, the trouble with the ‘cannibalistic infanticide’ narrative attaching to Epstein is that it ties in too neatly with the antisemitic trope of ‘blood libel’ - i.e. ‘the Jews kill and eat Christian babies’. This then loops back to ‘pizzagate’ and I really struggle to make the leap without some evidence. At the moment I feel like I’m being asked to see the connections through the medium of interpretive semantics.

So I still don’t know what to believe. I do know however that there a side to some humans, mainly men, that is dark beyond most of our imaginings.

LastTrainsEast · 19/02/2026 10:00

There are allegations and no proof I can see. Perhaps something will come of it but perhaps not.

Except of course on social media where people write all the things they imagined might have happened and share them others who like that kind of thing.

Everyone should try to be careful about their sources. Ask how some random on Tiktok would know what went on in closed rooms even if it were true.

Sometimes "not on MSM" might be political/bias but quite often it's because it's a 'load of fetid dingo kidneys'.

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 10:01

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 19/02/2026 09:42

Can you explain? I haven’t heard of him and don’t use Insta.

James Alefantis was named by GQ as one of the 50 most influential people in Washington D.C. in 2012. He was / is the owner of the restaurant called ‘Comet Ping Pong’

His Instagram used to be public and at that time, it contained a lot of photos of disheveled and tired-looking children that were very unsettling. One of them was a little girl with her arms restrained on a table.

Another photo was a close-up of a baby’s face with the caption ‘Ho Tard - a cross between a Ho and a Retard’. I really don’t see how that can be explained away.

Some of the comments on these posts were also really creepy.

He has since made his Instagram private. But there was also a photo of the inside of what looked like a surgical room with the caption ‘Kill room’. When a journalist tried to investigate this, JA allegedly threatened his family.

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 10:05

Comet Ping Pong, of course was the restaurant which people alleged was a front for child trafficking.

When people made videos about this on YouTube etc, they were taken down. But I think you can still find some of the photos if you look around online.

The posts were real as far as I’m concerned because I saw them myself on his Instagram before it was made private.

DeepBlueDeer · 19/02/2026 10:08

usedtobeaylis · 19/02/2026 09:56

"central claims of physical evidence were investigated by many journalists and different law enforcement agencies and completely disproven"

So was child abuse in children's homes in multiple countries. Occasionally there were/are sacrificial lambs, more often there were/are cover ups. Wherever here is power there is paedophilia, abuse and harm.

But we're talking about, for example, alleged abuse occuring in locations that do not exist.

And - again - there was no good evidence for pizzagate. To the extent any "evidence" was not fake, it was predominantly emails that appeared to be about ordering pizza - often for the purporse of catering for campaign events that are confirmed to have occurred and for which actual pizza was ordered, delivered and served.

I'm open to it in the Epstien context but for pizzagate, there was never any good evidence and anything that could have been debunked was thoroughly debunked.

Onprozacandmyhighhorse · 19/02/2026 10:09

Andrew MW has been arrested according to the BBC!

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 10:12

DeepBlueDeer · 19/02/2026 10:08

But we're talking about, for example, alleged abuse occuring in locations that do not exist.

And - again - there was no good evidence for pizzagate. To the extent any "evidence" was not fake, it was predominantly emails that appeared to be about ordering pizza - often for the purporse of catering for campaign events that are confirmed to have occurred and for which actual pizza was ordered, delivered and served.

I'm open to it in the Epstien context but for pizzagate, there was never any good evidence and anything that could have been debunked was thoroughly debunked.

The main concerns re: pizzagate were around the owner of the restaurant James Alefantis and his strange, inappropriate posts about children. The emails were a separate thing linked to the wikileaks thing.

MyTrivia · 19/02/2026 10:13

Onprozacandmyhighhorse · 19/02/2026 10:09

Andrew MW has been arrested according to the BBC!

I doubt anything will come of it. I don’t have much faith in the police. Money talks. I hope I’m proven wrong.

diddl · 19/02/2026 10:14

"As part of the investigation, we have today (19/2) arrested a man in his sixties from Norfolk on suspicion of misconduct in public office and are carrying out searches at addresses in Berkshire and Norfolk.

Novel way to spend a birthday!

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