Page 14 | New Epstein allegation horrifying

Daygloboo · 2026-02-18T23:20:58+00:00

Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/02/2026 17:24

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 20/02/2026 12:17

You've completely missed the point of my posts. I was one of those who provided the link for the DOJ files. This thread is well meant but my concern is that women and girls are trying to have their voices heard about horrific experiences at the hands of powerful men and it gets harder for them if online communities muddy the waters. This thread is awash with statements of 'fact' that are actually still contested, and over-interpretations of scant information that are focused on proving prior theories rather than building understanding. References on here to things being 'in' the Epstein files don't always differentiate between witness testimony, police evidence, anonymous 'tips' sent to police by conspiracy theorists and websites which report the files inaccurately.

I wasn't discrediting the testimony. It was the newspaper article being cited as support that was questioning its credibility. The problem is, if you cite something as supporting your argument but then it turns out not to support it, your argument is then undermined. Therefore you provide fuel to those who want to dismiss women's accounts as conspiracy theory nonsense.

Your argument that there is no need for people to provide sources because everyone should do their own research doesn't wash. If we care about the truth coming out then it's better for posters to provide clear information about how they know what they claim to know and the evidence to support it.

The testimony being referred to in the independent article is indeed powerful, troubling and distressing to read. Thanks to those who provided the newspaper sources that enabled me to find it - EFTA02731361 on the DOJ website. I would not want my frustration with some of the previous posts to be taken as discrediting this witness. If you might find this triggering I would avoid reading it though.

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I think this is part of the reason that Virginia Giuffre wasn’t taken seriously. There were some things that she alleged that turned out to be provably false, which then allowed all her allegations to be discredited in the court of public opinion.

I think she was a troubled soul, but that’s not surprising given what she’d been through. Trauma takes its toll.

Had she been more of a “perfect victim” I wonder if more people would have listened and believed what she’d been subjected to. Mind you, even if they had I don’t think anyone would have believed the unspeakable depravity that seems to have occurred.

So I think people who are naturally sceptical will see posts that are claiming wild things and assume the whole thing is just overblown nonsense. And I think that’s supported by the fact that very little seems to be happening in the US about it. I heard it reported on the BBC last night that the US doesn’t anticipate making any arrests 😳

So unless people wade through the documents for themselves, they’ll probably just think it’s a bunch of wealthy guys that were partying with barely legal girls and hey man, that was the 80s.

Of course, that’s not the reality but if people are just reading the headlines they’ll go on what seems to be plausible and what seems like too incredible to be true, especially with scant objective proof.

I don’t believe this has stopped. It will still be going on in some form. Wealthy men will have found a different enabler and learnt to be more careful.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all but I do think this thing runs way deeper than we all realise, even now.

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Daygloboo · 20/02/2026 17:36

NeelyOHara · 20/02/2026 06:27

Are you trying to discredit her?
Also, why can’t posters do their own research, - if they are so sceptical that everything is untrue? The links to the official DOJ website have been posted, so it’s not hard to find out, rather than demanding someone else goes off to provide them with ‘proof’, that they deem credible enough.
If you’ve got time to post on here trying to undermine other posters and indeed victims, then surely you have time to type in a few keywords to google and find a new site deemed trustworthy enough for you, or indeed the actual DOJ website….

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Are these eugenics things supposed to involve the sperm of Epstein ? Because if so then Epstein really makes me laugh. He looks physically repulsive and seems to have the brain of a paedophile. Who the fuck wants to reproduce human beings like that. Is he having a laugh.

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Carla786 · 20/02/2026 19:45

LondonPapa · 20/02/2026 11:31

My understanding was that the SEN babies were for abuse and worse.

There were other non-SEN women birthing babies not scheduled for the same abuse but still taken away regardless and caused harm to the child mothers.

But tbh, I’ve read so much horrendous stuff in the files I may be trying to cope and they were all schedule for repeated abuses and worse.

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How terrible...I don't think I can bear to read the files. That sounds frighteningly plausible

LeavesOnTrees · 20/02/2026 22:42

I don't really understand how to navigate the files, there just seems to be a search function to emails. But then I went through a CNN link to 'data sets'clicked randomly, loads of photos of closed boxes of evidence and papers and then this : https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%205/EFTA00008505.pdf

WTF, it looks like a real female torso

Linoleum81 · 20/02/2026 23:15

Sitonyourdressmavis · 19/02/2026 09:08

I have worked briefly with 2 children who were born not for families , but for cp rings. I can imagine all sorts of unhinged stuff goes on

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does that sort of thing honestly happen? I thought CSA was just committed by random pedos who couldn’t control their horrible urges. I find it so awful to believe there are so many people involved in organising and being complicit

FluentOP · 20/02/2026 23:25

AutumnedCrow · 19/02/2026 00:20

Here’s The Communist with some hyperlinks. I’d honestly thought have this was mad if I’d read it before last week. In fact, when it published on the 2nd Feb, I would have done.

Now, I’m kind of hoping it’s not true but confused.

https://communist.red/andrew-windsor-accused-of-involvement-in-torture-and-murder-down-with-the-epstein-class/

A 17 year old Latvian girl was murdered and found on private royal land on the Sandringham estate in 2012 and the case has never been solved. It looks as though the royal family were not even questioned ! See link

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jan/08/sandringham-body-identified-latvian-student

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 23:31

Linoleum81 · 20/02/2026 23:15

does that sort of thing honestly happen? I thought CSA was just committed by random pedos who couldn’t control their horrible urges. I find it so awful to believe there are so many people involved in organising and being complicit

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Child porn rings existed in the 70s, sadly abusers have always found ways if joining forces. Probably used groups like PIE back then, now they have the Dark Web...

I imagine mothers of children like that would be slaves of these evil groups? Doesn't bear thinking about.

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Daygloboo · 21/02/2026 00:04

Linoleum81 · 20/02/2026 23:15

does that sort of thing honestly happen? I thought CSA was just committed by random pedos who couldn’t control their horrible urges. I find it so awful to believe there are so many people involved in organising and being complicit

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What are the disturbing allegations and who are the household names please ?

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SpidersAreShitheads · 21/02/2026 00:24

LeavesOnTrees · 20/02/2026 22:42

I don't really understand how to navigate the files, there just seems to be a search function to emails. But then I went through a CNN link to 'data sets'clicked randomly, loads of photos of closed boxes of evidence and papers and then this : https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%205/EFTA00008505.pdf

WTF, it looks like a real female torso

Oh my lord, what is that photo - is there a label for it anywhere?? That really does look like a human body…..it can’t be, surely?? 😳

NeelyOHara · 21/02/2026 07:11

SpidersAreShitheads · 21/02/2026 00:24

Oh my lord, what is that photo - is there a label for it anywhere?? That really does look like a human body…..it can’t be, surely?? 😳

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But why not? There was no police looking for these women or children, and so many ways to easily dispose of their bodies, - on private ranches in the desert or private islands. He could offer up torture, rape and murder to any of his network who desired it, and it seemed plenty of them did.

Sitonyourdressmavis · 21/02/2026 07:40

Linoleum81 · 20/02/2026 23:15

does that sort of thing honestly happen? I thought CSA was just committed by random pedos who couldn’t control their horrible urges. I find it so awful to believe there are so many people involved in organising and being complicit

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Yes I live in a very unremarkable place to. Very average. These two children had been saved and moved to a new area. No parent until ages of 3 in one case and 2 in the other then specialised foster carers. All horrifying. They hadn't lived anywhere. They'd spent a few weeks at a time before being passed on.

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 07:56

LeavesOnTrees · 20/02/2026 22:42

I don't really understand how to navigate the files, there just seems to be a search function to emails. But then I went through a CNN link to 'data sets'clicked randomly, loads of photos of closed boxes of evidence and papers and then this : https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%205/EFTA00008505.pdf

WTF, it looks like a real female torso

I shouldn’t have clicked on this :(

But then, if this stuff is happening we shouldn’t shut our eyes to it.

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:02

Right, this isn’t a real female torso - it’s a bronze sculpture of a female torso apparently. I’m relieved but also, it’s fucking weird that anyone would have a sculpture like that.

NeelyOHara · 21/02/2026 08:16

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:02

Right, this isn’t a real female torso - it’s a bronze sculpture of a female torso apparently. I’m relieved but also, it’s fucking weird that anyone would have a sculpture like that.

You should see the rest of his artwork.

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:21

NeelyOHara · 21/02/2026 08:16

You should see the rest of his artwork.

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It’s like John Podesta. Did you see the artwork he had?

DeepBlueDeer · 21/02/2026 08:32

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:21

It’s like John Podesta. Did you see the artwork he had?

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I've seen a fair amount of false claims about it, sure - just like how I've seen other false pizzagate nonsense you've posted in this thread as if it were fact, before.

https://www.newsweek.com/john-podesta-art-balenciaga-scandal-1763960

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:51

Actually I’m thinking of Tony Podesta’s sculpture that looks like one of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims. It’s a headless man in a kind of arch. I haven’t seen anything about paintings.

Nothing I’ve posted is ‘nonsense’. I saw James Alefantis’ instagram. Not pictures of it. How can a picture of a baby with the words ‘Ho Tard’ be taken out of context? Keep burying your head in the sand by all means.

DeepBlueDeer · 21/02/2026 09:04

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 08:51

Actually I’m thinking of Tony Podesta’s sculpture that looks like one of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims. It’s a headless man in a kind of arch. I haven’t seen anything about paintings.

Nothing I’ve posted is ‘nonsense’. I saw James Alefantis’ instagram. Not pictures of it. How can a picture of a baby with the words ‘Ho Tard’ be taken out of context? Keep burying your head in the sand by all means.

How can a picture of a baby with the words ‘Ho Tard’ be taken out of context? Keep burying your head in the sand by all means.
By pretending that he posted it about the baby.

If you look at the actual image, someone else (I would read, jovially) called John Podesta a "hotard", and Podesta returned the insult.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PgU-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64dc2329-8540-405f-9377-6637e0bfc215_640x410.png

MyTrivia · 21/02/2026 09:34

James Alefantis and John Podesta are two different people…

Anyway. The creepy artwork and sculptures seem to be a thing with some of the rich and famous. There was a painting of Leslie Wexner in Epstein’s mansion where he’s depicted as a demon. Tony Podestas sculpture and the one in the Epstein files are both nasty and depraved imo. Does it prove they murder people? No… but it’s strange.

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Daygloboo · 21/02/2026 09:56