Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)

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Renee Good. Proof the you can shoot someone and get away with it in Trump’s America.

What do you mean that they had no way of verifying. He could easily show them his medical ID.

Bystander doctors or nurses often ask to help in emergencies, and they are allowed to if they show an id.

In the videon, the Ice guys dont even ask this man if he has a medical ID or not.

They just shout at him "back off " and "i dont care".

Shocking

I dont mean its the worst part in everything that happened.

Killing her was the worst part. But they have an argument that it was self defense. Killing her can be challenged

But obstructing a doctor from getting to her. He asked several times if he could help. Shouting "i dont care" at him. It just clearly shows how cold and callous they are.

Im pretty sure i saw a video of them throwing the doctor to the ground later aswell

Small but important detail - the actual quote was 'connected to' not 'part of' the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua

I don’t think she meant to kill him. I’ve maintained that from the start. But he could also reasonably assume she meant to knock him over! She clipped him after all.

She made a poor series of decisions that led to her death.

Its just awful. And there are loads of americans defending the ice man.

What they dont seem to realise is if they let this guy get away with killing her, ICE are going to get ten times worse.

It could be anyone else next

Classic DARVO. We voted for Trump, we voted for Congress to pass funding for ICE. And a bunch of activists want to ignore these democratic processes and just downright attack and kill people they don’t agree with?
They need to just stay the fuck away from federal agents doing their job.

Classic example of the cognitive dissonance necessary to be a MAGA.

We voted for Joe Biden and he won the election. A bunch of activists wanted to ignore the democratic processes and just downright attack and kill people (and shit on desks and send elected official scurrying for their lives and try to hang the vice president) they don't agree with? But they should be pardoned. And one, who lost her life in pursuit of that goal, in which law enforcement who were doing their job, and should have been stayed the fuck away from, were injured and killed, gets awarded military honours and a £5m payout goes to her family.

Your hatred for brown people (because that's what drives you) blinds you to reason and humanity.

No. He made a series of poor decisions which led to her death. It was completely unnecessary.

I'm horrified at what I've seen. Not just the level of violence but that it appears angry, aggressive men carrying guns, concealed behind face masks and balaclavas are on American streets and are apparently supposed to be the Government representatives not the criminals.

Who are these people? What training and official powers are they supposed to have? Where are they recruited from and what vetting procedures are there? This all seems to be very unclear. To me this type of thing gives very ominous echos from very dark periods in world history.

Also fleeing from police - i can understand it. Especially when the police have guns. And are being aggressive. He shouts "get out of the fucking car"

If four men with guns walk over to our car, our instant thought is "im going to be shot". People panic and flee.

This then also can make them get shot

Trump is a dark man.

I remember the world got darker and people got nastier, the last time that he was in power

The officer who shot her will not be punished. Because that lady made a poor decision. Maybe he shouldn’t have shot an unarmed protestor, but how could he have known she was unarmed?

The rioters went to jail by the way. I would have liked to see Good in jail, instead of dead. And she would be, if she had complied and got out of the car.

Similiar to Nazi days.

Nazis were appointed by the Government.

They used to go round the streets harassing and beating people up

Not complying with a police officer is NOT a reason to shoot someone.

Look it up.

Police officers have been interviewed and have said that this Ice man used excessive force

She was waving them through, not blocking them at all. You can clearly see a car drive past right before the ICE vehicle pulled up. She was preparing to leave and had just stopped to let them through.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BEcCtA2xP/

I would hope that she might have been given a fair trial if she hadn't been murderered first. But perhaps that would be an unreasonable expectation in today's US.

The President pardoned the Jan 6 rioters, so he clearly didn't seem too concerned about the legality of their "protests".

So ironic that Renee Good is the one that is accused of being a domestic terrorist - without evidence, without trial and without the opportunity to defend herself.

And what of her decision to participate in blocking ICE vehicles? Of her decision to stay in the car? Of her decision to flee the scene, seemingly with disregard that agents were around her car?

No, she was the one who made a bad choice. The other guy saw a car come towards him. Are you so sure he could have stepped away? I’m not.

Like I said, nobody was defending that January 6 lady here (that I recall).

If you think it’s okay to plant your car in the middle of the road to block ICE vehicles, I better never hear you complain about pro-lifers who block entrances to abortion clinics to ‘save babies’. Their emotions do not override what we have voted for

I was asked by a police officer to stop and pull over once. I was young at the time. I panicked and pretended i didnt hear him. I drove on. I didnt comply .

He didn't shoot me.

He radioed a colleague and his colleague stopped me further on down the road.

I stopped for the second policeman.

The second policeman didnt shoot me either

That's true, I didn't think of ID, and as I said, the "I don't care" response says a lot. Not letting the ambulance through is indefensible, as is the fact that none of them immediately administered CPR or rendered any first aid or life-saving measures.

Imo, they wanted her to die and did all they could to ensure she couldn't be saved.

@RingoJuice The only thing that led to her death was the ICE agent's choice to murder her. The victim is not responsible for her killer's bad temper and poor impulse control.

She wasn’t shot for failure to comply. She was shot because she was driving a car at a federal agent. Whether she meant to or not is an open question, but he had legitimate grounds to believe it.

No, an agent of ICE used an excessive amount of force. Which is illegal.

Yep and not just new posters, the right wing murderous views on here are a real eye opener.

There is simply no justification for killing her, none at all but that doesn't stop people from doing so and many more trying to cast doubt around her and what she was doing, as if it even matters.

The latest is "How did they know she wasn't armed" so a shot to kill policy is all ok... anyone not compiling with the law can be killed "just in case"

btw she was given two orders, leave and get out of your car.....

She was gunned down in cold blood.

But what is even worse, after all MN posters don't really matter, is the President of the US, plus those around him, think her death is all ok..... thats scary.

What if, in your panic, you’d have hit someone? Just because you didn’t mean it doesn’t absolve you of those consequences. What if a group of people had been in front of you, and in your blind panic didn’t see them?

Again, he deliberately stepped in front of her vehicle while it was moving.

I know that. I was replying to the poster who said that the woman would be alive, if she had complied and got out of the car

She wrote

I would have liked to see Good in jail, instead of dead. And she would be, if she had complied and got out of the car.

btw she was given two orders, leave and get out of your car.....

In the video I saw, I only heard ‘get out of the car, get out of the fucking car’ over and over again. Can you share a video with audio where you heard them say it?