Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)

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Renee Good. Proof the you can shoot someone and get away with it in Trump’s America.

"Undocumented folk" are potentially criminals. I would be sad if a professional working to protect people was killed by criminals but it's an interaction that's outside my daily scope.

Renee Nicole Good was not "undocumented". She was a witness/protester because ICE have been arresting people who have every right to be in America. And because of the risk of people being hurt.

ICE have no jurisdiction to order a citizen to do anything or to use lethal force outside their jurisdiction. Their action was criminal.

The murder of citizens or police officers by criminals saddens me. A state putting criminals in a position where they can commit murder of ordinary people for protesting legally outrages me.

Corroborate what ?

Is this not where you say how many etc ? FBI data says 107 officers killed in the line of duty in 2024. 64 of them killed feloniously. I cant find data on how many were killed by undocumented folk.

Thanks for posting this. It is utterly damning. So sad, that poor woman.

Also, how am I supposed to protest criminals killing police officers? Do criminals respond to protest? It's already illegal so I'm kind of stuck on who I'm demanding does what.

But if you want proof id care about police killings.. I remember Yvonne Fletcher. A police officer killed when I was a child. She deserved justice.

I think it’s shocking because I view it as someone from a country where police aren’t routinely armed. A police officer here would have let her drive away and focussed on getting out of her way and others would have given chase if felt necessary or just called her licence plate in

and at what cost? By killing her what did they stop happening? It’s such an over reaction that seems commonplace on the US

Could you share the data which informs this short answer, please?

@MJOverInvestor this is an excellent overview. What a terrible thing to have happened. I'm shocked.

Actually eyewitnesses (and you can hear it a bit in the video) say that on one side she had an ICE agent shouting at her to leave ie get out of the road and drive away, and then she had the other agent shouting get the fuck out of the car.
So “if you do as you’re told by law enforcement, you won’t get shot” doesn’t really work when you have conflicting orders.

And absolutely nothing excuses their actions after the shots. The shooter walked casually after the car, and the other agents walked off in the other direction. I’d expect running to her car while calling for medical help.
Then there’s the fact they stopped a nearby dr going to her, the conversation on video for that goes like this:
witness “can I go to her. Check her pulse”
ICE “no”
witness “I’m a physician”
ICE “I don’t care”
second ICE agent “we have our own medics”
woman yelling “where are they then?? Where are they??”
So clearly no one was medically helping at that point because the woman was questioning where the medics were.

And then the ambulance couldn’t get to her, so ICE carried her “like a sack of potatoes” (eyewitness comment) to it. She wasn’t stretchered away by paramedics, covered for privacy, dignity, and for the sake of her family.

So even if you think the shooting was justified, the actions afterwards are horrendous and clearly not the actions of a group of men who take seriously their responsibility as law enforcement with guns.

They seemed to be more like soldiers, trained to shoot first.

Its like something out of the movie "Sicario"

I've just seen footage of the incident that I hadn't seen until now.

The ICE agents were wearing balaclavas with their faces covered from the eyes down. The (bulletproof?) vests they were wearing had writing on the front, that presumably said "ICE" or similar, but as the poor woman was in a high SUV type vehicle, I'm not convinced she would have been able to see it from the driver's seat. One of them grabbed the handle of the car door.

If a masked man in a balaclava approached my car in the aggressive way they did, and tried to open the car door, I'd be terrified and definitely wouldn't have stopped unless I was positive they were someone official. All my instincts would have been to get away from them.

It's appalling, and terrifying. They seem to be completely out of control.

Let’s try Greenland instead? (@ least there’s plenty of space there 🤔)

And absolutely nothing excuses their actions after the shots. The shooter walked casually after the car

To be fair, I thought the shooter was walking slightly awkwardly immediately after the shots - is it possible the car struck his leg or foot?

@Clavinova no he wasn't hit. One would like to think that perhaps we was a little out of sorts having just murdered someone, but I don't even think that's necessarily the case.

Which she might have got, if diplomatic protection had not prevented investigation into what had happened inside the embassy the shots came from.

It’s absolutely horrifying what ICE have done. From the video footage there is absolutely no justification for what that man did.

He fired multiple shots and is a trigger happy lunatic.

Then denying medical care! A vile and evil man, working for a cruel and corrupt “agency”, backed up my a megalomanic “President”

The flashing lights and siren of the vehicle the officers got out of before approaching her vehicle might have been a bit of a give away.

I thought I could detect a slight limp immediately after the shooting, although he seemed fine later.

I think he slipped on the ice shortly before firing at her, although I can't find that footage now. It was linked in the original thread somewhere.

Other legal accounts are saying similar

I'm so upset by this story. That poor woman had a 6yo son who is now an orphan. The ICE bastards murdered his mother in cold blood and the US President is now seeking to gaslight the nation about what happened.

Surely this is going to be the last straw for decent Americans? Are we now going to see a massive uprising, or are they going to carry on like the proverbial boiled frog, somehow unaware of the extent of the growing crisis that they are now in?

And what about the rest of us? When are the so-called allies of the US finally going to find the courage to speak out properly against what's happening? Is there a point at which our leaders will say that enough is enough, and how bad will it have to get before that do? Or are we all so fearful of the consequences of getting on the wrong side of the US that we are just going to carry on pretending that everything is hunky dory? Have we made ourselves so dependant on America that we actually don't have a choice?

I'm struggling to believe what's happening. My only hope is that some of the UK electorate might wake up to what's happening and realise that we are not so far behind.

Thing is we've not been shown earlier video of her blocking the road, plus there are lots of cars in the area with flashing police lights. She knew that they were police/ice and was deliberately stopping them by blocking the Road. Ice officials cover their faces through fear of attack outside of work as it's such a contentious issue with some people taking direct and often violent action against them.

If you view the other angle of video and not the one shown by the BBC she does start to drive at the ice agent...but he is very very quick to shoot.

In a country where police carry guns and so do criminals and gun crime is a massive issue, she was absolutely stupid to try to prevent the police removal of alleged illegal immigrants on her own in a car. She was stupid to not let the first policeman open the door and to not cooperative with him. That said the policeman was way to quick to shoot and had drawn his weapon when she was stationary. It's interesting that none of his colleagues drew their guns.

So whilst she was stupid that doesn't give him the excuse to shoot her.

She was stopped, jutting into the road, and ICE pulled up in their unmarked trucks, sounded their siren, and clambered out clad in their cosplay army kit, and started pointing and gesticulating. She waved at them through her open window to pass in front.

Now, if that was me, my reaction would be to move my car. Same as one would anywhere if a cop car or ambulance looked like it wanted to get past.

The officer who shot her in the face, he came from nowhere from her view. He walked behind the officers she was talking to, took position at her near forward left quarter, and he took aim.

She would have been looking at the officers at her window, and down at her gears looking to put it in drive. And when she pressed the gas pedal, she would be looking right, to where she was going. Her left was blocked by unmarked trucks. The shooter was to her left, possibly behind the car window frame. In her blind spot.

She really had no chance with that knob stood there aiming at her head.

And look at the vid, When he fires, that officer at the window pulls back like a hornet stung him. He was having a WTF moment. That pistol being fired feet from his head, FFS.

We can’t. We decided to spend all our money on welfare and the NHS, and as such we have not invested in our military, infrastructure, business or the other essentials needed to function independently without relying on the States.

The resulting embarrassing dependency and sycophancy is a problem entirely of our own making.

Some of us did say 🤷‍♀️

She should not have used her vehicle as a weapon against law enforcement. Simple as following the law. Break the law and there are consequences.

The difference between criminals and ICE is ICE can kidnap and shoot people in the street with impunity. They act outside the law and have no legal consequences.

The criminal faces criminal and possibly civil penalties.

The US is no longer a nation ruled by law.