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Epstein Files

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HosierLanez · 21/12/2025 17:40

so there’s a huge dump of data from Epstein files but apparently “nothing newsworthy” apart from a pic of bill clinton in a tub and Andy formerly known as Prince lying on girls knees all with faces blocked out… who is holding these people to account? Where is the citizen oversight of this case and the data- who is looking at the data and what is the rationale for the blacked out faces?

YABU this is a court process and it will come good in time, it is normal to have redactions like this

YANBU this is not as transparent as a normal process and it is less clear and open than the norm

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SerendipityJane · 01/02/2026 14:27

Or are wealthy people often also really tight?

Look how they hate paying tax ....

Ihatethistimeline · 01/02/2026 14:30

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 01/02/2026 14:18

I disagree, the BBC top news right now is about Mandelson and more allegations of cash changing hands. Further down the website they talk about Musk and Bill Gates. On American websites I've seen they barely mention Andrew.

I don’t think that this wildly veers from the point I was making. Ok Andrew and Mandleson are the stories in UK - with Andew the most prominent. Musk and Gates are more prominent in America. All of these people are already in the public domain, disliked by many and already scandalized so it’s easy to keep them in focus.

Where and who are the others? Epstein, a former humble school teacher, did not get set up with shady billions from the Russians via the Victoria Secret guy, also an island and only manage to entrap those four plus Clinton over decades. Sorry I don’t buy it. Those were the idiots who got caught writing to Epstein or in blatant photos with him and girls.

Who and where are the others over the many years this seemingly industrialised trafficking and raping took place?

It also wasn’t only teen girls victimized. There were younger kids - boys and girls and what happened to them?

EasternStandard · 01/02/2026 14:33

SwedishEdith · 01/02/2026 14:07

Yes. Or are wealthy people often also really tight? Happy to accept freebies and handouts. I know there's that response "Well, that's why they're rich" but it is odd that they would be asking for money for a private medical issue they could, no doubt, already afford. Or why even use an osteopath who changes £10k?

It was more than that, from the BBC

Jeffrey Epstein made $75,000 (£55,000) of payments to accounts connected to Lord Mandelson, bank statements released by the US Department of Justice suggest

CurlewKate · 01/02/2026 15:01

SwedishEdith · 01/02/2026 14:07

Yes. Or are wealthy people often also really tight? Happy to accept freebies and handouts. I know there's that response "Well, that's why they're rich" but it is odd that they would be asking for money for a private medical issue they could, no doubt, already afford. Or why even use an osteopath who changes £10k?

For clarity-it wasn’t for medical treatment, it was to pay for Mr Mandelson’s training to become an osteopath…

SwedishEdith · 01/02/2026 15:06

CurlewKate · 01/02/2026 15:01

For clarity-it wasn’t for medical treatment, it was to pay for Mr Mandelson’s training to become an osteopath…

Ah, okay, thanks.

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2026 16:43

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2026 11:29

He is immune from prosecution.

This goes way deeper than a simple soul such as I can divine. However it seems to affirm/confirm that Donald Trump is immune from criminal law.

So he could order murder and get away with it.

Oh,. he has.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2026 17:52

Why do people keep attempting to use the fact Biden didn't do this that or the other when he was President as some sort of evidence that Trump isn't in them or that loads of Democrats are in them...

Biden's government couldn't release anything, those files were evidence in open criminal investigations at the time, and remained so until Trump closed the case!

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2026 17:58

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2026 17:52

Why do people keep attempting to use the fact Biden didn't do this that or the other when he was President as some sort of evidence that Trump isn't in them or that loads of Democrats are in them...

Biden's government couldn't release anything, those files were evidence in open criminal investigations at the time, and remained so until Trump closed the case!

And even had Biden acted, the MAGAnauts would have dismissed it as politically motivated. Egged on by the press.

EsmaCannonball · 01/02/2026 18:59

One might suggest the likes of Mandelson and Fergie are rich because they never pay for anything themselves.

ItsDarkNow · 01/02/2026 18:59

So now Trump is suing michael Wolff and the Epstein estate

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2026 20:13

Haha, Trump sues people like the rest of us put on our pants - daily, sometimes more often.

He doesn't appear to care about the results much, he makes a big deal if he wins but then he'd make a big deal about winning third prize in the egg and spoon race.

EsmaCannonball · 01/02/2026 20:17

It's not just sexual stuff. There are emails showing when Mandelson was business secretary he was simultaneously advising the CEO of JP Morgan on how to challenge his own government's taxes.

JaneJeffer · 01/02/2026 21:23

“The Epstein files also contain articles published by The Irish Times in 1993 which would appear to have been sought in a search. One article related to the death of a girl who had been hit by a car in Dublin.” from the Irish Times - very odd

SwedishEdith · 01/02/2026 22:16

Bloody hell, just heard the Fergie email to Epstein. "Will you marry me" 🤮. So desperate for funding to keep the grift going.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 01/02/2026 23:23

So how did Epstein get so rich?

RedTagAlan · 02/02/2026 03:25

ItsDarkNow · 01/02/2026 18:59

So now Trump is suing michael Wolff and the Epstein estate

Let me guess... 10 billion dollah !

Tinytimmy123 · 02/02/2026 04:32

RedTagAlan · 02/02/2026 03:25

Let me guess... 10 billion dollah !

He has verbally threatened suing Wolff, but hasn't as of yet actually sued him.

Reason to believe it will never happen.
It would mean trump would be asked ALOT of questions regarding his relationship with Epstein. Since he is neck deep in the trumpstein files and has alot of people working very hard to keep his name hidden in the files one could assume he really really really doesn't want to have a chat about epstein and him ...ever.

Currently Melania is under threat of being sued by Michael Wolff because she threatened to sue Wolff...but because she would be open to discovery and have to answer alot of uncomfortable questions about her and trumps friendship with epstein, that too, hasn't happened. She is trying to convince the courts that she is based mainly in florida to get a more 'favourable ' judge ruling. Uncomfortably for her she made much of being in New York , where Wolff has filed, rather than Washington so this could be a bit of an issue.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2026 10:02

Uncomfortably for her she made much of being in New York , where Wolff has filed, rather than Washington so this could be a bit of an issue.

What have facts got to do with anything ?

Tinytimmy123 · 02/02/2026 13:16

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2026 10:02

Uncomfortably for her she made much of being in New York , where Wolff has filed, rather than Washington so this could be a bit of an issue.

What have facts got to do with anything ?

In the trump world...nada.

Conspiracytheories · 01/03/2026 10:26

RichardOnslowRoper · 31/01/2026 11:33

Expect Trump to bomb Iran any moment, for distraction.

You called that correctly.

Epstein and Trump successfully wiped from.the front page news by his bombing of Iran.

Shameless sacrifice of human lives to try to save his skin over his complicity in the Epstein affair.

UncannyFanny · 02/03/2026 11:13

And there you have it. Trump starts a war to distract everyone from asking too many questions about why his name appears over 5000 times in the Epstein Files. And it works doesn’t it? Everyone has stopped talking about the Epstein Files. Look over there! Look over there! Don’t look over here!

SerendipityJane · 02/03/2026 11:36

UncannyFanny · 02/03/2026 11:13

And there you have it. Trump starts a war to distract everyone from asking too many questions about why his name appears over 5000 times in the Epstein Files. And it works doesn’t it? Everyone has stopped talking about the Epstein Files. Look over there! Look over there! Don’t look over here!

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Epstein Files
UncannyFanny · 02/03/2026 17:54

Now we can see why Trump took control of Venezuelas oil reserves. Because he knew that a few weeks later he would be disrupting global oil supplies in the middle east.

Ihateboris · 10/03/2026 19:04

Has anyone else seen this? It's reported on other news outlets as well.

www.cnn.com/2026/03/10/politics/epstein-zorro-ranch-search-new-mexico

Tinytimmy123 · 10/03/2026 19:17

Ihateboris · 10/03/2026 19:04

Has anyone else seen this? It's reported on other news outlets as well.

www.cnn.com/2026/03/10/politics/epstein-zorro-ranch-search-new-mexico

Yes. It will be interesting to see if they find any bodies. Although epstein ordered large quantities of sulphuric acid. Its horrifying how infiltrated the world is/was by these (connected) people.