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Racist Threads

287 replies

PhilippaGeorgiou · 27/08/2025 13:11

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought AIBU would be ok. I am not running this as a poll, because I don't care about anyones opinions on the matter. And if anyone wants to respond with more racism, don't bother because I won't be engaging for even a second.

Right at the moment this site is not being overrun by racists because MNHQ has determined that there are no racists on the site and it's abuse to tell anyone they are a racist (even when they are). However, there are multiple threads expressing racism every single day, all rehearsing the same old misinformation and bogus narratives. Not one of those posters want to engage - they become abusive and offensive if anyone produces remotely evidenced facts. Their "facts" are the only truthful facts. Everyone else is a "woman hating woke leftist". Which is apparently not abus, according to MNHQ. MNHQ have made is abundantly clear that they will not moderate misinformation, and are blithely happy to allow most abuse to stand.

Here's the thing - there's pretty much nobody on those threads that is genuinely interested in having a discussion or debating information. There is nobody jumping on those threads saying that they don't really understand the different views and positions and would like to know more. Unsurprising, anyone who actually wants to explore the issue, the absolute last place to look to do that would be yet another toxic thread here. Probably the only good thing is that it really is highly unlikely anyone with a real curiousity about the subject would look to form opinions based on the toxic formula of MN.

The only thing that these threads are good for is clicks and ££££'s in the bank for Justine and the site.

So anti-racists - I suggest that we all stop answering these threads altogether. I know it is hard to see the racism stand (although apparently not for the owners of the site or the moderators) unchallenged, but every single challange does nothing but feed the flames and earn money for MN. You all know that the people who are not racists will spend 20% of their posts posting misinformation and 80% posting goady barbs and personal insults, just to keep the threads going. It will be incredibly boring for them if they only have each other to talk to. The threads will die without oxygen. And MN makes no money out of clicks that haven't happened. It's a win all around.

And if you want to do something proactive, instead of engaging with people who aren't going to listen, why not raise your concerns about the racism with the advertisers? They are being associated with it by their presence, and are clearly far more likely to influence the owners of the site than the people posting on it.

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PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 17:24

Edited as per pp's warning.

TopPocketFind · 27/08/2025 17:24

BMW6 · 27/08/2025 15:41

If I say I don't care about any of that but don't want people coming into the UK through unofficial channels - is that racist?

My view is I welcome anyone coming here who has applied and gone through the due process of checks.

I welcome people with skills and education that can be employed.
I welcome those who can work in the NHS or Care Homes with the necessary attitudes and command of English.

I do not believe the vast majority of those smuggled in are valid claimants for Asylum. I think most are economic migrants and should not be able to.just "break in".

If that makes me racist I'm OK with that.

You can be concerned about immigration without dehumanising refugees and asylum seekers crossing in boats who are only about 10% of total immigration.

Also asylum facts disagree with your not valid claimants and that claiming asylum is 'breaking in'

But if you don't mind being called a racist, who are we to argue

JaneJeffer · 27/08/2025 17:25

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 17:18

I'm not engaging with the racists on MN anymore. As far as I can see they are only on MN to peddle their racist bollocks and are not worth anyones time or effort.

Exactly

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 17:26

FrippEnos · 27/08/2025 17:24

Just FYI the last group that replied to posters with flowers, got complained about to MN and warned.

So maybe not such a good idea.

Oh. Maybe just best to post nothing at all.

sleepwouldbenice · 27/08/2025 17:28

Fizzer5 · 27/08/2025 16:40

Yes @sleepwouldbenice, they won't tell us why it was agreed in the first place we do not need the mass of unskilled scarcely educated that is just pitching up. There was no budget or plan about paying for it.

They agreed to the vast majority of immigration, we need it to particularly support areas such as social and health care. Therefore we should fund the services to support them. Can't have it both ways and we certainly can't blame them

Rizzz · 27/08/2025 17:28

So anti-racists - I suggest that we all stop answering these threads altogether. I know it is hard to see the racism stand (although apparently not for the owners of the site or the moderators) unchallenged, but every single challange does nothing but feed the flames and earn money for MN.

So you're basically telling posters to do what MNHQ has been telling them to do since this site opened.

'Scroll past and ignore' 🤷‍♂️

Except very few people take that advice whether it's given by MNHQ or OP's like yourself.

If it was going to be a thing that caught on, it would have long before now.

StandFirm · 27/08/2025 17:31

HangryLikeTheHulk · 27/08/2025 13:36

I think this site - influential as it is - is likely being targeted by the billionaire oligarch capitalists behind Reform UK / GB News / the flags bollocks / hotel yelling.

Which is why I think leaving the forum is a bad idea. Their voices are not the only ones.

JaneJeffer · 27/08/2025 17:31

@Rizzzwhat’s their reason for telling people to ignore racism?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 27/08/2025 17:31

SpidersAreShitheads · 27/08/2025 17:17

Before this descends into the inevitable bunfight, I just wanted to say that I'll be sorry to see you go @MrsBennetsPoorNerves.

I've seen your name pop up on a lot of the threads I've either been on or lurking on, and your comments are always fair and balanced.

If you decide to stay, or if you go and then decide to come back, maybe sticking to certain boards might help weed out the worst of the nastiness? I try and avoid AIBU if I'm feeling a little bit fragile. Sometimes I just come and have a poke around the property and decoration boards without looking at everything else because it's much calmer on there.

💐

Thank you, I appreciate your kind comments.

I've been on here for years and it will be really hard to walk away, but I think I probably need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, tbh, but the last few days have confirmed it for me. Partly because the volume of racist posts has got so out of control, and partly because MNHQ don't seem to really care.

It isn't fun any more.

RingoJuice · 27/08/2025 17:31

nomas · 27/08/2025 17:03

Oh, you're the poster who thinks you're a special immigrant because you married a white Englishman.

And are now importing your American race politics here. Lovely.

No, actually Britain imported American ideas on the matter. Where do you think woke came from?

StandFirm · 27/08/2025 17:32

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 27/08/2025 17:31

Thank you, I appreciate your kind comments.

I've been on here for years and it will be really hard to walk away, but I think I probably need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, tbh, but the last few days have confirmed it for me. Partly because the volume of racist posts has got so out of control, and partly because MNHQ don't seem to really care.

It isn't fun any more.

I get that - I would love for you to stay but if this feels like a chore then I guess it doesn't serve you anymore...

nomas · 27/08/2025 17:34

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 27/08/2025 17:31

Thank you, I appreciate your kind comments.

I've been on here for years and it will be really hard to walk away, but I think I probably need to. I've been thinking about it for a while, tbh, but the last few days have confirmed it for me. Partly because the volume of racist posts has got so out of control, and partly because MNHQ don't seem to really care.

It isn't fun any more.

I agree MNHQ don't seem to care, or at least, they have a brief they're following.

I hope you do come back, MrsB.

Rizzz · 27/08/2025 17:34

Whatafustercluck · 27/08/2025 14:11

Me too.

Simply put a 💐 after every post that's racist/ offensive/ massively overstepping. Instead of the good old fashioned mumsnet biscuit. Suggest doing the same with painted roundabout too!

The flowers thing was done to death a few years ago when some thought there was an 'anti teacher' sentiment taking over MN.

The trouble was after a while anyone who started a thread about a problem with a teacher got bombarded with flowers from the same few people, despite others wanting to discuss the problem with the OP seriously.

In the end MNHQ had to tell them to pack it in and scroll past or hide the threads if they didn't like them, rather than disrupt them for everyone else.

RingoJuice · 27/08/2025 17:34

HangryLikeTheHulk · 27/08/2025 17:08

You’re an American claiming that America has been dealing with migration longer than the UK ?

Just how old is America ?

You were like 95% white 30 years ago. Race politics has only just begun for you.

And tbh I actually thought you were curious about the question you asked.

StandFirm · 27/08/2025 17:36

PandoraSocks · 27/08/2025 14:13

Sadly, you are probably right about that @PhilippaGeorgiou as the same disinformation is spammed across the boards by an ever changing influx of posters.

One poster admitted they were all following a link from X or Reddit. Can't remember which.

Musk has got money to burn and supports Reform. Not surprising.

TopPocketFind · 27/08/2025 17:36

RingoJuice · 27/08/2025 17:34

You were like 95% white 30 years ago. Race politics has only just begun for you.

And tbh I actually thought you were curious about the question you asked.

Edited

You have a president who thinks slavery wasn't that bad. You voted for him,didn't you?

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 17:37

Oh for the days when we derailed racist or benefit bashing threads etc with talk of goats and scones and other nonsense. But then got accused of being cliquey 😂

Rizzz · 27/08/2025 17:37

JaneJeffer · 27/08/2025 17:31

@Rizzzwhat’s their reason for telling people to ignore racism?

I think it was because they didn't always see it as racism, so encouraged others to challenge and discuss.

Much the same reply as when some people have complained about ableism.

I guess some people see things differently, including the moderators.

TopPocketFind · 27/08/2025 17:38

StandFirm · 27/08/2025 17:36

Musk has got money to burn and supports Reform. Not surprising.

Actually he is supporting Lowe and Robinson now.

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 17:38

Rizzz · 27/08/2025 17:34

The flowers thing was done to death a few years ago when some thought there was an 'anti teacher' sentiment taking over MN.

The trouble was after a while anyone who started a thread about a problem with a teacher got bombarded with flowers from the same few people, despite others wanting to discuss the problem with the OP seriously.

In the end MNHQ had to tell them to pack it in and scroll past or hide the threads if they didn't like them, rather than disrupt them for everyone else.

No , in the end that isn't what happened. HQ moved The Staffroom out of Active Threads to minimise pile ons, as many of the worst threads for aggressive visitors were posted initially in Staffroom. Most teachers then more or less left the Staffroom and many MN altogether.

Whatafustercluck · 27/08/2025 17:38

nomas · 27/08/2025 17:03

Oh, you're the poster who thinks you're a special immigrant because you married a white Englishman.

And are now importing your American race politics here. Lovely.

Indeed. And anyway the US has dealt with nothing for longer than this country because it's all of about two minutes old by comparison.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 27/08/2025 17:39

@RingoJuice And "you" were non-white only 533 years ago. I bet they are regretting welcoming the immigrants. The USA was built on racism.

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Rizzz · 27/08/2025 17:39

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2025 17:38

No , in the end that isn't what happened. HQ moved The Staffroom out of Active Threads to minimise pile ons, as many of the worst threads for aggressive visitors were posted initially in Staffroom. Most teachers then more or less left the Staffroom and many MN altogether.

Edited

Most of the threads I remember where in AIBU and Chat.

I don't think I've ever looked at the Staff Room topic.

nomas · 27/08/2025 17:39

EchoedSilence · 27/08/2025 17:37

Oh for the days when we derailed racist or benefit bashing threads etc with talk of goats and scones and other nonsense. But then got accused of being cliquey 😂

I'm up for a bit of goat and scone derailing.

I'm cream first, then jam. On the scone, not the goat.

Whatafustercluck · 27/08/2025 17:40

TopPocketFind · 27/08/2025 17:38

Actually he is supporting Lowe and Robinson now.

And Andrew Tate. Kindred spirits.