Racist Threads

[PhilippaGeorgiou]

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought AIBU would be ok. I am not running this as a poll, because I don't care about anyones opinions on the matter. And if anyone wants to respond with more racism, don't bother because I won't be engaging for even a second.

Right at the moment this site is not being overrun by racists because MNHQ has determined that there are no racists on the site and it's abuse to tell anyone they are a racist (even when they are). However, there are multiple threads expressing racism every single day, all rehearsing the same old misinformation and bogus narratives. Not one of those posters want to engage - they become abusive and offensive if anyone produces remotely evidenced facts. Their "facts" are the only truthful facts. Everyone else is a "woman hating woke leftist". Which is apparently not abus, according to MNHQ. MNHQ have made is abundantly clear that they will not moderate misinformation, and are blithely happy to allow most abuse to stand.

Here's the thing - there's pretty much nobody on those threads that is genuinely interested in having a discussion or debating information. There is nobody jumping on those threads saying that they don't really understand the different views and positions and would like to know more. Unsurprising, anyone who actually wants to explore the issue, the absolute last place to look to do that would be yet another toxic thread here. Probably the only good thing is that it really is highly unlikely anyone with a real curiousity about the subject would look to form opinions based on the toxic formula of MN.

The only thing that these threads are good for is clicks and ££££'s in the bank for Justine and the site.

So anti-racists - I suggest that we all stop answering these threads altogether. I know it is hard to see the racism stand (although apparently not for the owners of the site or the moderators) unchallenged, but every single challange does nothing but feed the flames and earn money for MN. You all know that the people who are not racists will spend 20% of their posts posting misinformation and 80% posting goady barbs and personal insults, just to keep the threads going. It will be incredibly boring for them if they only have each other to talk to. The threads will die without oxygen. And MN makes no money out of clicks that haven't happened. It's a win all around.

And if you want to do something proactive, instead of engaging with people who aren't going to listen, why not raise your concerns about the racism with the advertisers? They are being associated with it by their presence, and are clearly far more likely to influence the owners of the site than the people posting on it.

What do you mean ‘MN is being targeted’?, and how have you determined there are a ‘lot of men on here too’?

You seem to miss a lot of things when you read threads.

Cats. Two of them. Don't let their cuteness fool you, they're utter bastards.

Cuteness overload. 🫶❤️

Well said.

I have noticed how emboldened racists have become to express their offensive attitudes. I can’t look at a comment section anywhere atm without seeing comments such as ‘I never owned slaves, I’m not responsible for what my ancestors did’ and saying that POC should be grateful to live here.

It’s ugly, it’s despicable and it shows just how much the UK has gone down the pan.

That's a reach. Introducing hyperbole and gotchas is not debating in good faith. Actually, it's not even how people usually discuss anything.

I wonder if posters who do this are even real?

Anyway, it's not genuine engagement.

Agree. It’s really unpleasant.

Something Remainers were mocked for pointing out back in the day...

The UK does have a heck of a lot of open space, that’s clear from flying over the place and from this land use data. What differs here is the low-density approach to housing, with so many individual homes being built compared to multi-family homes (apartments) in eg Germany or Switzerland. We’re not “full” in terms of space, we’re “full” because underfunded and neglected services have been optimised for profit rather than delivery. This is extractive, and does not benefit the recipient of the service in any way.

We are the 3rd most densely populated country in Europe after Netherlands and Belgium (not including small islands and city states).

We all agree that there isn't room for everyone who wants to come here don't we? We can't take in millions every year without end.

So it comes down to arguing over limits and when they are reached.

I prefer to deny them the little dopamine hit every time someone bites.

It’s so backwards.