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Afghan Relocation Scheme - £7bn going to be spent

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Libby00 · 15/07/2025 19:32

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o.amp

How did they find the money for this? Also, no checks to confirm what sort of people we are letting into the country.

This country is an utter disaster,m

A crowd of Afghans handing their papers to soldiers at Kabul Airport

Secret Afghan relocation scheme set up after major data breach - BBC News

The existence of the scheme could not be reported until now because of a court injunction.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o.amp

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Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:17

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:15

first of all, that website is looks extremely dodgy.
second, whilst i think bacha bazi is abhorrent ( although as an afghan myself its not nearly as common as the media would like you to believe, even the taliban themselves condemn it and its basically only going on in very very rural backwards villages so rare) do british men not rape and get away with it? Why are we pretending that british men do not commit heinous actions themselves?

It is a socially acceptable practice in Afghanistan. And not nearly as rare as you make out. How is that not beyond disturbing and disgusting.

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:18

Repottingtheplants · 15/07/2025 21:00

For some wild reason we (in the West) seem to think everyone across the world shares our values!

British soldiers reported their allied Afghan soldiers and citizens engaged in the rape of young boys.

https://aoav.org.uk/2025/bearing-witness-to-silence-how-uk-soldiers-were-traumatised-by-and-were-ordered-not-to-stop-the-rape-of-boys-in-afghanistan/

’Bacha bazi’ / ‘boys for play’ are an afghani tradition of using young boys for entertainment and sex https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/12/dancing-boys-afghanistan

This is incompatible with nations who believe in female sexual empowerment and expect men to show self control and not look at the world though sex crazed eyes

Edited

Wait till you hear about the West’s outright support of the mass murder of and other horrific crimes against innocent children happening right now in the Middle East … you know … since you care so much about the children.

BIossomtoes · 15/07/2025 21:19

ExtraOnions · 15/07/2025 19:47

I assume the secrecy has been to protect those individuals … either when they were in Afghanistan, or now they are here.
The Mail report may well lead to these people being put it harms way again. Slow hand-clap.

It was actually to protect the government of the day.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:19

Msmfailedusbad · 15/07/2025 21:04

Name changed for this. I have expertise in local govt and can attest that this has been going on for years with millions lavished on the scheme, to buy houses for use by these people , even though my council is a small one. Millions handed over to buy houses for this scheme, only for use by Afghan settlers. Cannot be used by other settlers or British homeless .They have also been housed in local army base etc. The £7bn sadly doesn’t surprise me at all, suspect the actual costs will be higher. Morally I have concerns that the scheme excludes local homeless etc, and isn’t affordable nationally . We are financially stretched to breaking point and in terminal cultural , social and economic decline. I feel guilty for brining my children into this mess, and say that as someone who is comfortably off. Really feel for British people with fewer choices than myself.

This country has gone crazy. It really has.

Brendahollowayreconsider · 15/07/2025 21:20

cakeorwine · 15/07/2025 20:36

Which Government?

Do you know when the leak happened?

Think it was 2022 and a conservative government mess.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:20

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:18

Wait till you hear about the West’s outright support of the mass murder of and other horrific crimes against innocent children happening right now in the Middle East … you know … since you care so much about the children.

Here we go. The rape apologists are out in force again.

LipstickLessons · 15/07/2025 21:23

Repottingtheplants · 15/07/2025 21:00

For some wild reason we (in the West) seem to think everyone across the world shares our values!

British soldiers reported their allied Afghan soldiers and citizens engaged in the rape of young boys.

https://aoav.org.uk/2025/bearing-witness-to-silence-how-uk-soldiers-were-traumatised-by-and-were-ordered-not-to-stop-the-rape-of-boys-in-afghanistan/

’Bacha bazi’ / ‘boys for play’ are an afghani tradition of using young boys for entertainment and sex https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/12/dancing-boys-afghanistan

This is incompatible with nations who believe in female sexual empowerment and expect men to show self control and not look at the world though sex crazed eyes

Edited

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do.amp

Where as British soldiers would just kill young boys. Doesn't sound like a lot of 'self control' was shown by British men.

Image from a 2006 SAS squadron compilation video from Iraq showing a member of the squadron with two other men, who appear to be handcuffed

'Children handcuffed and shot' - ex-UK Special Forces break silence on war crime claims - BBC News

Veterans who served with the SAS and SBS give BBC Panorama eyewitness accounts of alleged executions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do.amp

BIossomtoes · 15/07/2025 21:23

Brendahollowayreconsider · 15/07/2025 21:20

Think it was 2022 and a conservative government mess.

You’re right. It was Patel, Braverman and Jenrick’s fuck up and cover up.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:23

LipstickLessons · 15/07/2025 21:23

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do.amp

Where as British soldiers would just kill young boys. Doesn't sound like a lot of 'self control' was shown by British men.

More rape apologists joining the queue to make excuses.

Why do you need to defend the rape of children?

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:24

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:17

It is a socially acceptable practice in Afghanistan. And not nearly as rare as you make out. How is that not beyond disturbing and disgusting.

As an afghan i assure you its most definitely not. Where did you get that information from??? Its mainly only somewhat prevalent in very very rural villages and all afghans i know condemn it, including taliban

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 15/07/2025 21:24

Another mess left by the Tories.

ninjahamster · 15/07/2025 21:25

Absolutely the right thing to do imo. These are people who are in danger from the taliban due to helping us.

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:25

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:23

More rape apologists joining the queue to make excuses.

Why do you need to defend the rape of children?

Edited

Sounds like you are a murder apologist all their showing is that people from all nations commit heinous crimes , including western ones

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:26

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:20

Here we go. The rape apologists are out in force again.

Nope just calling out the hypocrisy of it. The poster couldn’t give a damn about the innocent children here or there. The bacha bazi is just being hijacked to support their bigoted views. You don’t like the resettlement? Well then take it up with our government that has had a historical fetish in getting it self involved in foreign invasions.

EarthwormJem · 15/07/2025 21:26

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:19

This country has gone crazy. It really has.

I'm not joining the pile on re bacha bazi. You'd hope the succesful applicants to the UK scheme have been properly vetted but it IS a reasonably prevelant practice in Afghanistan, hence its been subject to several recent documentaries.

You shouldn't believe Msmfailedusbad, though. They are either lying or mistaken. The scheme is being funded by the Ministry of Defence, including housing costs, and comes out of the Ministry's existing budget.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:28

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:26

Nope just calling out the hypocrisy of it. The poster couldn’t give a damn about the innocent children here or there. The bacha bazi is just being hijacked to support their bigoted views. You don’t like the resettlement? Well then take it up with our government that has had a historical fetish in getting it self involved in foreign invasions.

No you are engaging in whataboutery. aka making excuses for the rape of children.

MissyB1 · 15/07/2025 21:29

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:20

Here we go. The rape apologists are out in force again.

Oh Hi Elon 👋

Msmfailedusbad · 15/07/2025 21:29

I never said where the funding came from, but that it has been provided to local councils to buy houses and spend on resettlement. Mine has bought several houses , totalling millions for this specific purpose. It’s all TAXpayers money and we are all paying for it.

Lonelycrab · 15/07/2025 21:31

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:24

As an afghan i assure you its most definitely not. Where did you get that information from??? Its mainly only somewhat prevalent in very very rural villages and all afghans i know condemn it, including taliban

Where did you get that information from???

Nigel Garage no doubt, and his army of anonymous bot farm ruski trolls, brought to a popular forum near you sometime soon via dogshit media like Geebeebies. Yay!

Try and divert your attention here, simpletons and basically stupid people. It helps with billionaires and their tax avoidance Wink

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:31

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:24

As an afghan i assure you its most definitely not. Where did you get that information from??? Its mainly only somewhat prevalent in very very rural villages and all afghans i know condemn it, including taliban

Rural villages where? On the moon?

No, Afghanistan. Rural or otherwise, it has gone on and on and on unstopped because it is culturally acceptable.

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:32

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:28

No you are engaging in whataboutery. aka making excuses for the rape of children.

I called you and the other poster out for using rape victims to further your prejudicial and bigoted views, which clearly had hit a nerve. Think about it before you type.

chachahide · 15/07/2025 21:32

Libby00 · 15/07/2025 20:07

What western values? They were being paid. Absolutely no indication they share western values.

I was in the military, were you? I can assure these were good people who truly helped us. Without them we would have been fucked.

LipstickLessons · 15/07/2025 21:33

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:23

More rape apologists joining the queue to make excuses.

Why do you need to defend the rape of children?

Edited

No. I'm refuting the idea that men in Afghanistan are uniquely awful. British men invaded Afghanistan and murdered children, now British people are whining that they have to give shelter to some people from Afghanistan because they put their lives and the lives of their families in danger. That doesn't align with any 'Western values' I've ever heard of.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:33

MissyB1 · 15/07/2025 21:29

Oh Hi Elon 👋

Did you conjure that up all by yourself or did you get some help? The originality and novelty of your comment wins the internet today.

Jennps · 15/07/2025 21:34

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 21:32

I called you and the other poster out for using rape victims to further your prejudicial and bigoted views, which clearly had hit a nerve. Think about it before you type.

Still apologizing then.

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