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Afghan Relocation Scheme - £7bn going to be spent

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Libby00 · 15/07/2025 19:32

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o.amp

How did they find the money for this? Also, no checks to confirm what sort of people we are letting into the country.

This country is an utter disaster,m

A crowd of Afghans handing their papers to soldiers at Kabul Airport

Secret Afghan relocation scheme set up after major data breach - BBC News

The existence of the scheme could not be reported until now because of a court injunction.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o.amp

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BoredZelda · 17/07/2025 09:44

Libby00 · 16/07/2025 19:29

While Afghan nationals make up approximately 0.2% of the UK population, they account for a significantly higher proportion of arrests and convictions for rape and sexual offences. Their conviction rate—at around 59 per 10,000—is roughly 20–22 times higher than the national average of 2.7 per 10,000.

Using rape conviction statistics to prove anything is like saying 1 drop of water was responsible when your house flooded. 1 in 4 reports lead to charges. It is estimated that around 1% of reported rapes end in a conviction.

There are complex and institutional reasons why they are over represented in report and convictions. It isn’t as simple as them committing more crimes. Given the widespread belief here that immigrants are inherently dangerous, it’s not hard to deduce that bias may play a part when they are reported and convicted more often than their white counterparts.

The answer isn’t to have fewer Afghans, it is to work on getting more convictions. If that isn’t your focus when it comes to sexual assault, it isn’t the safety of women and girls you are actually concerned about when you use rape statistics to argue against immigration.

Msmfailedusbad · 17/07/2025 10:06

The weird mental gymnastics of the rape
, including child rape, apologists on this thread is unbelievable.

cloudydays5 · 17/07/2025 10:47

This is shocking https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o
The article says this person originally had his application (to the Arap scheme, a scheme which was public knowledge) rejected.

And this has all been caused by what, because someone didn’t use email correctly?

British troops leaving Camp Bastion in Helmand Provice, Afghanistan, in 2014

UK offered to speed up resettlement case of Afghan who posted leaked data online

The BBC understands the individual, an Afghan national, is now living in the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o

Hankunamatata · 17/07/2025 10:50

Bigger question is why in earth didn't it happen years ago? They have dragged their heels on this for years

Jennps · 17/07/2025 11:17

BoredZelda · 17/07/2025 09:44

Using rape conviction statistics to prove anything is like saying 1 drop of water was responsible when your house flooded. 1 in 4 reports lead to charges. It is estimated that around 1% of reported rapes end in a conviction.

There are complex and institutional reasons why they are over represented in report and convictions. It isn’t as simple as them committing more crimes. Given the widespread belief here that immigrants are inherently dangerous, it’s not hard to deduce that bias may play a part when they are reported and convicted more often than their white counterparts.

The answer isn’t to have fewer Afghans, it is to work on getting more convictions. If that isn’t your focus when it comes to sexual assault, it isn’t the safety of women and girls you are actually concerned about when you use rape statistics to argue against immigration.

What a terrible attempt at whataboutery, deflection and gaslighting.

Jennps · 17/07/2025 11:19

It’s pathetic beyond belief. Apparently rape and sexual abuse is complex and the numbers are probably wrong and there is no problem with certain nationalities being over represented in these crimes.

The industrial scale gaslighting is insane.

ArtTheClown · 17/07/2025 12:04

The answer isn’t to have fewer Afghans, it is to work on getting more convictions

Every conviction has a raped woman behind it.
I'd rather there were fewer rapes.

Libby00 · 17/07/2025 17:26

The answer isn’t to have fewer Afghans, it is to work on getting more convictions. If that isn’t your focus when it comes to sexual assault, it isn’t the safety of women and girls you are actually concerned about when you use rape statistics to argue against immigration.

If Afghans do commit more rapes, and there is amble evidence they do, isn't reducing the number of afghans in this country a way to protect women?

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Libby00 · 17/07/2025 17:29

BoredZelda · 17/07/2025 09:44

Using rape conviction statistics to prove anything is like saying 1 drop of water was responsible when your house flooded. 1 in 4 reports lead to charges. It is estimated that around 1% of reported rapes end in a conviction.

There are complex and institutional reasons why they are over represented in report and convictions. It isn’t as simple as them committing more crimes. Given the widespread belief here that immigrants are inherently dangerous, it’s not hard to deduce that bias may play a part when they are reported and convicted more often than their white counterparts.

The answer isn’t to have fewer Afghans, it is to work on getting more convictions. If that isn’t your focus when it comes to sexual assault, it isn’t the safety of women and girls you are actually concerned about when you use rape statistics to argue against immigration.

I suspect the incidence is massively underreported because most of the victims would be Afghani women, who would report due to family honour, lack of communication skills.

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ArtTheClown · 18/07/2025 07:48

Just seen that most of the Afghans on that list were asylum seekers unconnected to any work with the British army.

Parker231 · 18/07/2025 08:03

The personal details of serving and former members of UK special forces, and the security services, were included in the Afghan data breach - their lives have now also been put at risk.

Msmfailedusbad · 18/07/2025 08:12

No doubt open a load of fraud and abuse, just like a lot of other govt schemes . link to article

cloudydays5 · 18/07/2025 08:23

ArtTheClown · 18/07/2025 07:48

Just seen that most of the Afghans on that list were asylum seekers unconnected to any work with the British army.

There were schemes that were public knowledge for those who had assisted the UK https://www.gov.uk/guidance/afghan-citizens-resettlement-scheme

The man who posted data breach names on Facebook was unsuccessful, maybe he was not eligible. Presumably there were others on this list who also were not eligible. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o

Afghan citizens resettlement scheme

The Home Office has announced further details of the Afghan citizens resettlement scheme.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/afghan-citizens-resettlement-scheme

Repottingtheplants · 18/07/2025 08:34

PinkChaires · 15/07/2025 21:15

first of all, that website is looks extremely dodgy.
second, whilst i think bacha bazi is abhorrent ( although as an afghan myself its not nearly as common as the media would like you to believe, even the taliban themselves condemn it and its basically only going on in very very rural backwards villages so rare) do british men not rape and get away with it? Why are we pretending that british men do not commit heinous actions themselves?

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Clavinova · 18/07/2025 19:40

CopperWhite · 15/07/2025 22:18
Do you [pp] have the same problem with the estimated 300,000 people coming to live in the UK from Hong Kong, in addition to the 100,000+ that have already arrived?

At least we make the people from Hong Kong pay visa fees and a health surcharge upfront first, although they may be eligible for benefits later on;

When you apply for the first time, you’ll need to show you have enough money to pay for your housing and to support yourself and your family for 6 months.

In addition;

You and your family members will each need to pay a visa application fee.
It costs:

  • £193 if you’re applying for 2 years and 6 months
  • £268 if you’re applying for 5 years

You and your family members will each need to pay the healthcare surcharge.

For each adult (18 or older) it costs:

  • £2,587.50 if you’re staying for 2 years and 6 months
  • £5,175 if you’re staying for 5 years
For each child (under 18), it costs:
  • £1,940 if you’re staying for 2 years and 6 months
  • £3,880 if you’re staying for 5 years

https://www.gov.uk/british-national-overseas-bno-visa

Nchangeo · 19/07/2025 01:51

Ok, last week I was on here saying they should 100% be allowed to come over.

Then I read that someone on the list bought 22 family members. That family is not defined by blood or marriage. And that the average list person is bringing 8 family members.

Im sorry what?!? And how many people are on this list? And now we times that by 8 and have to house everyone?

Kier and Reeves best crack on with the house building. 😮

marshmallowmix · 20/07/2025 10:54

Yep one family brought 22 members …it’s madness ! The sheer numbers are crazy to be honest ….it has all been hidden too I do not trust the government Labour or conservatives …this isn’t okay …

Testerical · 21/07/2025 00:11

Oh do get a grip @marshmallowmix.

Stop frothing.

And buy Nige another pint while you’re at it.

MuckFusk · 21/07/2025 01:03

BluntPlumHam · 15/07/2025 22:47

Probably because USA/ and Brit army has just as much to hide. Look up the Muhammidiya rape cases and 14 year old Abeer Al -Janabi. I wouldn’t respond to the goading posts about Bacha bazi. It’s definitely an issue which when looked into no doubt makes one sick however none of the posters have genuine care or justice for those victims, they’re just convenient pawns to push the hate propaganda against migrants or anyone who they view as such.

in fact it was the entire purpose of this thread.

Absolutely right.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 05:11

Msmfailedusbad · 15/07/2025 21:04

Name changed for this. I have expertise in local govt and can attest that this has been going on for years with millions lavished on the scheme, to buy houses for use by these people , even though my council is a small one. Millions handed over to buy houses for this scheme, only for use by Afghan settlers. Cannot be used by other settlers or British homeless .They have also been housed in local army base etc. The £7bn sadly doesn’t surprise me at all, suspect the actual costs will be higher. Morally I have concerns that the scheme excludes local homeless etc, and isn’t affordable nationally . We are financially stretched to breaking point and in terminal cultural , social and economic decline. I feel guilty for brining my children into this mess, and say that as someone who is comfortably off. Really feel for British people with fewer choices than myself.

I don't believe you. In any case, being housed in a local army base doesn't sound like luxury.

Anyone can say they have insider information.

Msmfailedusbad · 21/07/2025 06:54

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 05:11

I don't believe you. In any case, being housed in a local army base doesn't sound like luxury.

Anyone can say they have insider information.

You could say exactly that about anyone that ever comments on any thread anywhere, so you are just being selective.
Anyway The army base thing can be confined with a quick google search, but you won’t do that because it doesn’t fit your narrrative.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 07:37

Msmfailedusbad · 21/07/2025 06:54

You could say exactly that about anyone that ever comments on any thread anywhere, so you are just being selective.
Anyway The army base thing can be confined with a quick google search, but you won’t do that because it doesn’t fit your narrrative.

Is one meant to feel hard done by because they aren't housed in an army base? If you read my post properly , you'd see I'm not questioning if they are or not. Most of the UK population wouldn't be jumping for joy at being housed here.

Your stock Daily Mail phrase , "doesn't fit your narrative," doesn't cover up an insecurity about your level of education, by the way.

Msmfailedusbad · 21/07/2025 07:46

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 07:37

Is one meant to feel hard done by because they aren't housed in an army base? If you read my post properly , you'd see I'm not questioning if they are or not. Most of the UK population wouldn't be jumping for joy at being housed here.

Your stock Daily Mail phrase , "doesn't fit your narrative," doesn't cover up an insecurity about your level of education, by the way.

Oooh sneering to boot, another common trait!

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 08:06

Msmfailedusbad · 21/07/2025 07:46

Oooh sneering to boot, another common trait!

But it's not sneering, is it. It's just a depressing fact.

Msmfailedusbad · 21/07/2025 08:27

TankFlyBossW4lk · 21/07/2025 08:06

But it's not sneering, is it. It's just a depressing fact.

Ok, well then, seeing as you know better than me, I am sure we all look forward to hearing about my prep and secondary school record , university degrees, professional qualifications, career to date, investments portfolio, value of my house etc….

Or maybe you don’t know and have no clue?