Afghan Relocation Scheme - £7bn going to be spent

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o.amp

How did they find the money for this? Also, no checks to confirm what sort of people we are letting into the country.

This country is an utter disaster,m

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/7bn-plan-to-bring-thousands-of-afghans-to-uk-secret-chancellor-mansion-house/

Source of the 7 billion.https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/7bn-plan-to-bring-thousands-of-afghans-to-uk-secret-chancellor-mansion-house/

@Jennps - you haven’t responded to my question?

Men in Afghanistan are not uniquely awful. But the cultural practice being called out here is uniquely awful. And it happens in Afghanistan more than anywhere else. And it happens because society finds it acceptable to not stamp it out. This is not about individuals, it’s about societal attitudes which are clearly prevalent in Afghanistan.

I am really pleased successive governments here have (on this single issue) acted with integrity: you fuck up, you pay the price. That’s good morals.

I’m happy for those people who get to make a safer life for themselves in the UK. AND their families.

Imagine being on the hit list of a totalitarian Islamic regime. Really, truly imagine that. If you’re anti Islamic fundamentalism but also anti the uk govt looking after these people… let’s just say there is a bit of an intellectual vacuum there.

Don’t waste your breath Jennps is a troll and will tell you she knows more about your culture than you do, it’s typical bot behaviour and an American bot given how they have spelt ‘apologizing’.

I personally know one person who came over to the uk because he worked as a civilian in a uk military base in Afghanistan and said he would be killed by the Taliban.He didn't mention anything about leaked data though. This well over 3 years ago though

It's been widely reported in several academic journals and has been the subject of at least a couple of recent (relatively) documentaries, including one by an Afghan journalist that won Amnesty International's 2011 best documentary award.

The UN have also spoken about it several times.

I'm not against the UK's relocation scheme, and assume that applicants are properly vetted, but I don't think it helps to downplay the problem if bacha bazi.

(Which, to be clear, I am sure you are not doing intentionally- as you say, it is far more prevalent in rural regions)

CBA reading the full thread. Especially as the simple answer it's not £7bn and yes they should come here
Disgraceful to imply otherwise

some of the comments on this thread are very suspicious to me, given what is being aggressively pushed on my social media today.

Im getting endless suggestions for racist, misinformation-based content about immigrants getting preferential treatment in housing allocations. I have not interacted with or lingered on similar content in the past. It’s actively being pushed at me.

Someone is paying to promote this content, today. It’s sick- making. It’s like the Nazi propaganda machine all over again.

At last some honesty to OP's opposition.

As of June 2024, approximately 217,000 Ukrainians were estimated to be living in the UK, but god forbid a fraction of that were helping the British army in the war.

Genuinely lovely to see the responses on here, about doing the right thing and the evidence why, and no one rising to the racism baiting trolls.

I agree that these people needed to be brought here.

From a practical point of view, where are we going to house them? We've hardly got a surplus of housing in this country.

Does not mean its as widespread as the poster was insinuating. Yes it is a problem that should be dealt with, but to say that it is practised regularly throughout Afghanistan is very insulting to towards afghans. Various other issues in the uk also have been the subject of documentaries in the UK eg gang culture, but to say that all people from the uk have a gang mentality would cause outrage

Again, a very very dodgy link/website

Quite

Yes. Taxpayers fund the Ministry of Defence. The costs of this scheme are coming out of its existing budget, and is important for preserving the reputation and trustworthiness of the UK military for future conflicts.

Are you proposing cutting defence spending?

If countries refuse entry to UK citizens because UK citizens have a higher propensity to commit knife crime compared to their own national average, then burying your head in the sand that we have a problem with knife crime and crying ‘racist’ wouldn’t be helpful. It would make more sense to stamp out knife crime.

Afghanistan has a societal problem with sexual crime. Trying to minimize doesn’t help anyone.

Spot on. Additionally, they were told that they would be able to come to the UK, at the outset, when they agreed to work for the UK government. The government has never kept their promise. I find this unacceptable, even before the data breach.

I genuinely hope you're a bot, because otherwise you're an awful person. Making out an entire nation to be sexual deviants is a real, real low. I feel sorry for you, if you are human.

but to say that it is practised regularly throughout Afghanistan is very insulting to towards afghans

Afghans that have have helped the UK government in our misguided endeavours.

We have a duty to them. Shame on those that don’t show that compassion.

This will be being paid for via borrowed money - have the largest tax burden and largest debt and flatlining economy, with middle earners bearing the brunt. people have a right to know about it and the costs, we are facing tough choices and whilst i am ok with reasonable defence spending per se, this money is at the expense of other things and people need to realise that.

Good. Western values - to paraphrase your implications - equate to the State machine using people then betraying and abandoning them to be killed by the people they tried to protect us from, simply because you don't trust foreigners.

You should be ashamed. But you won't.

Some of the statistics I've seen reported (before the return of the Taliban) are 50% prevalence among men in some regions of the country, and 20% of Afghan weddings having it as a form of entertainment.

https://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/id/eprint/173188/1/BB.Revised.pdf

I understand that, in urban regions, the prevelance will be A LOT lower, and I can fully appreciate you don't wish to be judged by it.

I also didnt really agree with the way the poster differentiated from "The West" given the US's role in Afghanistan and that the many US states still allow for child marraige. At least Bacha Bazi is illegal.

@Msmfailedusbad so… you’re ok with people who worked for the UK armed forces being, what, summarily rounded up and killed by the Taliban?

So lets get this right

On most asylum threads/immigration threads, there are screams of 'they should come over legally, not illegally' (even though there is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker, but park that for the moment)

Now we have people coming here out of desparate need, their lives are at risk, they are coming here legally and,,,, erm,,,, thats also wrong?