Glastonbury worst I've seen!

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Anyone else? I tuned in last night and couldn't believe how bad it was! 1975 was headlining and it was so middle or the road.

Maybe I'm getting old but the music was awful!!! So bland. Im early 40s 🤣

What are your thoughts?

No, they don't.
The word "woke" has gone through three stages in a very short time.
First, it was a compliment.
Then it was an insult.
Now it's a term of derision.

BBC: ...the 'antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable and have no place on our airwaves...'

I’m quite pleasantly surprised at the Jeremy Vine debate. Some interesting points of view from both sides

Quite enjoyed The Prodigy and Pulp but the high for me was Gary Numan. What a brilliant mix of new and old songs, showing he's still very much 'got it'.

I do feel they should have just ‘pulled the plug.’
Ive read all the arguments, but by not doing this it’s made everything worse for them. If Reform ever get into power it’ll probably be a distant memory or have to go ‘ pay per view’ only or something like that.

Why didnt he say death to the Russian army?

I dont get this obsession with Israel other than jew hatred, the atrocities in Ukraine, Russia, Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Sudan etc not a peak, no marches on Saturday, no marches for the treatment of women by the taliban. No one can convince me its just antisemitism wrapped up in a concern for the gazan people

Only because they have to. If someone had chanted 'death to [named group or individual],' would the BBC have pulled the feed? I think they would. So why didn’t they this time?

Anyhoo…. I’ve never heard Olivia Rodrigo before but watching her now I think it was an excellent set

Well exactly. Wars are horrible, but there's probably never been a point in history where some war or other hasn't been happening.

Well it’s a good question. I’ve heard him being very vocal about support of Ukraine at gigs. But I suppose you can’t really spend your limited time on stage talking about all the things you care about and you pick one that causes you the most anger in the hope that it makes everyone more vocal about the things that make them angry too.

I think so

He absolutely shouldn’t

But Lucy Connolly was or do you agree she shouldn't have been?

The problem is the police and the cps tbh, they need to make their minds up what constitutes a crime regarding comments and what doesn't. Maybe it depends on who the target is?

The mum at the school gates who the other mums steer their DH's away from... 😁

They were not antisemitic statements though were they. ‘Death to the IDF’ is not antisemitic. What a ridiculous statement.

Oh Gloriia,
Here we go again. Lucy said “set fire to all the hotels full of the bastards for all I care” can you see how that is explicitly racist and indeed a call to incite violence? Death to the IDF whilst not something I would chant is neither racist not calling for PEOPLE to be killed.

"Antisemitic sentiments" - you're misquoting. Taken together with leading a chant of "From the river to the sea" and talking on stage about working for Zionists in the music industry I've no problem with the description.

No.'Set fire to the hotels for all i care' is nowhere near as bad as shouting 'death!' to a group of people. Still I'm not in the cps so he'll probs get away with it no rhyme ro reason to it.

He's been dropped by his US agency anyway so maybe like the Irish trio he's learnt his lesson and will stfu in future.

Wow! You ok with what Lucy said then? The IDF is not a group of people - it’s not like saying Death to Muslims or Death to all white men. They’re an ORGANISATION. It’s the difference between Death to Facebook and Death to Mark Zuckerberg. Two very different meanings.
He won’t shut up because of being dropped by his agent in the US 🤣- that’s not how activism works

I didn't say it was OK. I'm comparing it to what big Bob said, his chants were much worse he was actually whipping people up screaming hate. Ah he's so gentle though you say .

I loved Jo Wiley’s outfit, but I fear very very few people could carry that look off (myself included) without looking like Daffyd Thomas character Matt Lucas plays in Little Britain.

Ok. I can see we are so miles apart with our thinking that we won’t be able to see each others point of view. But it’s good to hear things from another perspective all the same

'The IDF is not a group of people'

It is actually. Its hardly a group of anything else is it?

Why don't these <checks notes> 'ativists' say death to hamas, is it because they are scared that they'll be targeted by murderous extremists perchance?

The IDF is not a group of people - it’s not like saying Death to Muslims or Death to all white men.

No need to search that far for a comparison. It's exactly the same as saying Death to the British Army. Your examples, not so much.