Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

[Fitasafiddle1]

Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

This is exactly what is happening. My question is what happens if Iran won’t agree?

Well the talks are happening on Friday as far as I'm aware.

Maybe I'm being naive but I just think surely Iran will agree re the nuclear capabilities as long as their leader can still present it as a "win" because the regime is allowed to stay the same.

If Iran doesn't agree @Fitasafiddle1 then it will end much more badly for them (and maybe everyone).

At that point Trump may decide to get involved militarily.

We will be staring at a huge escalation. For what it is worth, I don’t think they will agree…. I hope I am wrong.

I hope you're wrong too. As you say, a huge escalation would surely follow.

The tone of tantrum in the exchanges between leaders in the media reported back and forth is quite dispiriting.

I am minded of the phrase "theatre of war" and suspect the director is in the Tarantino camp.

I shall start a kitten thread for distraction purposes x

I agree.
There are differing reports on whether any refugees have entered Turkey.
Turkey says none
whilst there was an interview with a family who had just arrived from Iran and images of people apparently entering.

Isn’t Trump still asking for Iran to surrender and stop all uranium enrichment. Or have I missed a Trump update.
( I don’t do insta, tweets etc. can’t even stand looking at Trump or hearing his voice. 🤢)

Trump is also, I assume, ordering Iran to cease supporting Hamas and the other militias, to stop supporting terrorism against Israel immediately, so a peace deal can be achieved.

It seems the US have come to the conclusion that a peace deal is not possible until Iran stops funding and sponsoring the attacks on Israel.

I don't do all that stuff either so ... possibly.

This was from Sky News 3 hours ago:

The prime minister has said the UK is in 'discussions' with the US. David Lammy is set to meet with his American counterpart Mark Rubio. He is on Friday scheduled to meet with his French, German and EU counterparts in a summit with Iranian representatives in Switzerland.

Israel in my opinion shouldn't bomb Iran because they have nuclear power Israel has more than enough nuclear power what gives Netayanna the right to decide another country can't have what Israel has Really hoping our prime minister doesn't involve us in a war that Israel has created Hope so much Starmer acts sensibly on this

Have you missed the numerous times Iran has threatened destruction of Israel?
Let them fight between themselves. Doesn’t concern us and we certainly don’t need another Gulf war.

I said earlier, Lammy's first big test as foreign sec, comes tomorrow. Will this be one of Starmer's biggest tests in the international arena?

He was a member of Al Qeada and then a member of Islamic state in Iraq, then joined Al Nusra and finally Hts. Was ISIS a step to far for him?

So Netanyahu is calling on the Iranian people to rise up against their leaders. Wonder how that will go down? Of course the Internet shutdown across Iran might mean he's appealing into the void.

Slight hints of "Leave the World Behind" create chaos and let a country's inhabitants turn on each other?

I'm not a supporter of the Iranian theocracy. I don't want to come across as a supporter, I'm not! However, Netanyahu has been telling the world that Iran is on the verge of developing nuclear weapons since at least 1992.
We know that Iran has had the capability to produce nuclear weapons for at least twenty years but haven't. It's constitutionally illegal for Iran to develop nuclear weapons under its own legal framework. There have been a number of motions bought before the government to change the constitution in order to allow it. They've all been overwhelmingly rejected on moral grounds.
What are the chances of the Iranian people over throwing this government and choosing one friendly to Israel? None, absolutely none.
The aim of this war is more than likely to destroy Irans infrastructure and economy and turn it into a dysfunctional shell of itself in the mode of Libya or Syria and we know how well that's turned out.

Let’s hope Lammy et al aren’t as pathetic as the Blair government was to follow America into a war no one wants.
Doesn’t matter whose side you take, it really isn’t anything to do with us anymore.

At the end of the day, Israel were not the ones to refuse the deal given to them way back when.
Islamic nut jobs are not really the best people to be running a country.

I really can't believe some of the things I've read on here during the last few days. I've just had to hide an awful thread on AIBU. Any other time islamic fundamentalists would be fair game for the way they treat women. Anything to get at Israel. I need to get off here soon and breathe fresh air😀 common and common sense 😉

I don’t think it serves anyone to turn a state into a dysfunctional shell, however Iran has been sponsoring militia to harm Israel - that is not disputed. It’s less to do with nuclear arms in my view, and more to do with cutting the main sources paying to injure and murder innocent civilians in Israel.

It seems Iran is preventing peace, to serve its own agenda, of course at some point this is going to have to be addressed. There was no need for the 7tn of October to happen at all.

State sponsored terrorism anywhere in the world is always going to end badly. It could be argued Iran have been sheltered up to now from the consequences.

Things can not remain the same, with such terrible loss of life on both sides. A solution must be found unless you would prefer decades of this to carry on? The people of Gaza didn’t ask to be stuck in the middle of this proxy war, and everything must be done to stop this now. It’s obscene to see such suffering.

The Shah don't seem so bad now, does he.

Don’t go @Dangermoo

I'm still here x

As it turns out and not for the first time Trump was spouting nonsense. Returning to the original point, it’s unclear what exactly he hoped to achieve with the chaos he stirred up. Then again, he probably doesn’t know either.

It’s horrendous. Mnhq seem to be gone and the site is a free for all re the thread.

Depressing I know but same as pp keep posting just so there’s a small bit of difference.

American intel reported Iran have not been actively pursuing nuclear weapon capability and would be at least 3 years away from being able to do so. Of course Trump decided to ignore the intel and join Netanyahu on this suddenly very urgent mission.

if you know, you know and can cut through all the BS