Death penalty for these evil prisoners

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Manchester bombers brother who helped plan attack is in prison for life.

In 2022 along with another prisoner attacked 3 officers, getting another 3 years added to sentence.

Now just seriously stabbed 2 male prison officers and thrown hot oil on them both and another female officer. Vile, disgusting.

Why is he and similar other evil prisoners being housed in comfort in a separation centre, highly staffed with their own cooking facility?

Needs putting down. Save millions. He's no good to anyone. A rabbid dog that just attacks anyone that goes near him. How many more prison officers will he be allowed to stab or throw hot oil over.

https://www.poauk.org.uk/news-events/news-room/posts/2025/april/pr-273-poa-react-to-terrorist-attack/

Exisiting thread on this:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5313695-poor-prison-officers-having-to-deal-with-this-today?page=1

Agree, but you'll get the criminal apologists along shortly to say you are barbaric. YANBU OP.

Leave him to rot in a cell by all means. And actually do that, no luxuries at all whatsoever. However, I do not agree with the death penalty.

How on earth did he have access to hot oil?
I agree with you, murderers and child abusers can all be put down. Not bothered how it’s done. I can’t see the point in keeping these people in prison for years when they are never going to contribute to society. Costs a fortune that could be spent on the victims of crime.

Thanks I didn't realise.

Yawn. Bring back public beheadings. Oops, they were innocent? Never mind, so long as primitive people's blood lust is satisfied.

Let's hang all those innocent people all over again!! Who cares about miscarriages of justice???

Why are they allowed to have something they can use as a weapon (hot oil). Why was this risk not assessed properly? Sounds like having these "terrorists" is not a good idea, just breeds their ideology.

No, we mustn't return to the medieval society that some of these people want to inflict on us.

I don't want to live in a society that behaves like these awful people.

He's not innocent.

Even if someone deserves to die, none of us have the right to administer that. None.

I don’t agree with the death penalty, purely because I don’t think death is a punishment - we all die! I think life imprisonment should mean just that, and prisoners that are a risk to others should spend their days alone in a cell - forever ideally.

If I was facing life in prison or could choose a painless death i’d definitely choose the latter, I don’t really understand people who wouldn’t (my DH would choose life in prison ‘cos he’s scared of dying - which is mad to me, you still die at the end 🙃)

I hope these people are never happy again, but OP and these men are in agreement that it's ok to deliberately kill someone, and I disagree with them.

If you think it’s wrong to kill, why do you want to kill?
And calling those with a different view from yours “apologists “ is just a way of dismissing their views without addressing the arguments.
That way lies the danger that in its extreme form leads terrorists to do what they do.
We need to be better.

I disagree.

If someone plots to kill lots of people, he goes to prison. Then is found guilty and says he doesn't care and attacks prison officers and on asking how he pleads calls them pigs and deserving of attack. Then attacks again, stabbing 2 and throwing hot oil over 3 causing severe injuries and will again if not stopped, rinse and repeat etc.

Do we lay down and allow an animal to attack or pop the animal out of its misery of wanting to repeat attack. Surely its humane to pop this animal out of his misery and also save others being injured or killed?

Do you not care for the previous victims or the next victims . Perhaps you might be able to chat to him and rehabilitate him. Or would he attack you too. Why do you care gor attacking animal and not tge people who are dead or injured.

I haven't called anyone an apologist. I just think these sick individuals shouldn't be given the opportunity to keep attacking others.

Different opinion. That's allowed.

He's in a separate facility because he's considered highly dangerous. It's a failure of the system that he had access to hot oil and weapons.

The prison system is a complete mess.

Agree. We can't just kill anyone that we've lost control of, because of what they might do. He needs to be secured better.

I learned the other day that in Japan when you are on death row they don't tell you what your execution date is. They just show up at your cell one day and are like hey today is the day. That sounds like torture to me, so in that respect it is punishment.