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Death penalty for these evil prisoners

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Sameoldsameoldsame · 13/04/2025 18:53

Manchester bombers brother who helped plan attack is in prison for life.

In 2022 along with another prisoner attacked 3 officers, getting another 3 years added to sentence.

Now just seriously stabbed 2 male prison officers and thrown hot oil on them both and another female officer. Vile, disgusting.

Why is he and similar other evil prisoners being housed in comfort in a separation centre, highly staffed with their own cooking facility?

Needs putting down. Save millions. He's no good to anyone. A rabbid dog that just attacks anyone that goes near him. How many more prison officers will he be allowed to stab or throw hot oil over.

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TwoRobins · 15/04/2025 01:45

As evil and disgusting as some people are, I cannot find it within me to condone wilfully killing them as punishment. It just feels intrinsically wrong.

PrimitivePerson · 15/04/2025 10:39

TwoRobins · 15/04/2025 01:45

As evil and disgusting as some people are, I cannot find it within me to condone wilfully killing them as punishment. It just feels intrinsically wrong.

That's because it is intrinsically wrong.

YouFetidMoppet · 15/04/2025 10:49

MissFancyDay · 13/04/2025 19:16

No, we mustn't return to the medieval society that some of these people want to inflict on us.

I don't want to live in a society that behaves like these awful people.

Agree with this, although people who planned to barbarically mass murder children should not have been in the position to do this.

This just shows that there was enough expertise and staffing to manage the risks and to care for staff.

I used to work in a mental health unit and the service users did not have access to hot oil and had to use plastic mugs, and obviously none of them were like these people (although this was due to harm to self more than others). Although i think these prisoners didnt have knives as such, but used broken trays?

hhtddbkoygv · 16/04/2025 08:08

Sadcafe · 13/04/2025 21:32

But he’s hardly innocent and his behaviour shows he cares nothing for other people, there are plenty of people in prison where there is no doubt of their guilt, the piece of sh1t from Stockport as a prime example, who really don’t deserve to live

What about Lucy Letby?

PhilippaGeorgiou · 16/04/2025 09:32

Icanhearabee · 15/04/2025 00:42

I wouldn’t ever want there to be any possibility of innocent people being killed, no. I only mean in exceptional cases where their crimes were committed in front of multiple witnesses or where there is video evidence of their crimes.

There have been multiple cases of circumstances in which people admitted crimes that they did not commit - sometimes under duress. And witness evidence, even from multiple people, is proven to be highly unreliable. There is no such thing as certainty. Just one study of unreliable witness evidence in the UK showed that 42% of such testimony involved murder cases.https://news-archive.exeter.ac.uk/homepage/title_855937_en.html

People make mistakes (or deliberate lies), and numbers do not help at all - in fact the more people involved the more convoluted stories can become. People start talking the second something happens, they compare what they saw, the take what other people say as things they saw...

My friend and I witnessed an armed robbery several years ago where shots were fired. We were about 200 feet from the robbers. I was correct that there were three of them. I cannot recall a single other thing as my brain was engaged with finding a car to hide behind. My friend saw three people as well. They were black. They drove away in a blue car. They were actually Asian (and my friend is Asian so you'd have thought she'd recognise the skin colour!) and drove away in a silver car. The car we hid behind was blue.

Home page news - Unreliable witness testimony biggest cause of miscarriages of justice over the past 50 years, study suggests - University of Exeter

https://news-archive.exeter.ac.uk/homepage/title_855937_en.html

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