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Bianca Censori needs help

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MidnightPatrol · 03/02/2025 11:19

Bianca Censori went to the Grammys in a see through mesh dress yesterday. Nothing is left to the imagination.

Is it some kind of coercive control? Is she just an exhibitionist?

And - surely inappropriate given he has numerous children who will see this behaviour too.

If this were in any other walk of life, it wouldn’t be allowed, and yet for some reason it’s allowed to play out in public like this.

Is it not just repeated indecent exposure?

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Ponderingwindow · 03/02/2025 18:06

She was surrounded by people and cameras. If she didn’t want to participate or she wanted to get away from him, all she had to do was ask for help or just walk away from him.

At some point we have to accept that women have agency. She might be a willing participant or she might be a victim of abuse. Either way, she has the power to stop this whenever she wants.

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 18:07

YAWN. Such a boring tired and racist rhetoric.
white woman needs saving from her controlling black boyf.

Shes a grown woman, it’s ridiculous to assume that she’s not consenting? What makes you think she’s being coerced…Kanye?

If anything one could argue that she’s using a man with a vulnerable mental health condition and a long and documented mental health battle…

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:07

Ponderingwindow · 03/02/2025 18:06

She was surrounded by people and cameras. If she didn’t want to participate or she wanted to get away from him, all she had to do was ask for help or just walk away from him.

At some point we have to accept that women have agency. She might be a willing participant or she might be a victim of abuse. Either way, she has the power to stop this whenever she wants.

With respect: even for rich people it’s never that simple

rainythursdayontheavenue · 03/02/2025 18:09

What I don't understand is that had he been naked, he'd have arrested and charged. She's naked, and they're over the front pages of most western media.

It scares me that we as a society are so dehumanised to porn culture.

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:09

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 18:07

YAWN. Such a boring tired and racist rhetoric.
white woman needs saving from her controlling black boyf.

Shes a grown woman, it’s ridiculous to assume that she’s not consenting? What makes you think she’s being coerced…Kanye?

If anything one could argue that she’s using a man with a vulnerable mental health condition and a long and documented mental health battle…

Pretty sure we’d all be saying the same if Kanye was white. And really you’re dismissing how hard it is for women to leave controlling relationships

SayyestotheDog · 03/02/2025 18:09

I just find it so pathetic how the only way Kanye can make /keep himself relevant is by orchestrating & puppeteering a woman & publicly parading her as his latest living art experiment/muse. It's not art though or conceptual fashion or a statement designed to make us re-think society's obsession with women's bodies or an ironic expose of the way we gladly lap up a naked female body - despite our collective horror & shock every time she's unveiled & paraded about the place. I don't know /haven't bothered to try to understand or know if/what his philosophy is about his pathetic cheap attempts at attention are, but no doubt he's got some cod philosophy justifying it. If it's fashion wonder when his menswear equivalent is coming out? Now that would make front page headlines - seeing his ugly grandiose self trussed up in a see through gimp outfit that's he seems so obsessed with dressing his poor wife in. As for her? Vacuous attention seeking IMO & possibly drinking the same cool aid & faith in his status as misunderstood genius. She does though have an amazing body. And???

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 03/02/2025 18:10

Ponderingwindow · 03/02/2025 18:06

She was surrounded by people and cameras. If she didn’t want to participate or she wanted to get away from him, all she had to do was ask for help or just walk away from him.

At some point we have to accept that women have agency. She might be a willing participant or she might be a victim of abuse. Either way, she has the power to stop this whenever she wants.

She's quite clearly drugged up to the eyeballs

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:15

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:05

Going OT but I remember SEETHING watching that God awful A Star Is Born movie where Lady Gaga does a full frontal nude shot for no reason at all and then when they put Bradley Walsh in the shower he keeps his fucking shirt on!! What is wrong with Hollywood that female nudity is imperative but men dress in 15 layers

FFS I meant Bradley Cooper not Bradley Walsh. Defo can’t cope with Bradley Walsh in the shower.

Corinthiana · 03/02/2025 18:33

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:15

FFS I meant Bradley Cooper not Bradley Walsh. Defo can’t cope with Bradley Walsh in the shower.

😂

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/02/2025 18:42

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 18:07

YAWN. Such a boring tired and racist rhetoric.
white woman needs saving from her controlling black boyf.

Shes a grown woman, it’s ridiculous to assume that she’s not consenting? What makes you think she’s being coerced…Kanye?

If anything one could argue that she’s using a man with a vulnerable mental health condition and a long and documented mental health battle…

Or she's a vulnerable woman being abused and controlled by somebody who has documented severe mental illness and could be abusive both 'naturally' and as a manifestation of his particular presentation of illness.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/02/2025 18:43

I personally believe that she is happily participating in the attention seeking.

Some women like to be looked at.

I bet many young ladies would trade places with her.

She is an intelligent lady, who had a very good job as an Architect, if anything she will be self made financially from this relationship for life.

Book deals, interviews, drama, drama.

rainythursdayontheavenue · 03/02/2025 18:52

The DM is reporting that investors in his Tokyo shows later this year are pulling the plug. He's reportedly losing $20 million. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

For those insisting she's under his control, he's making an album called "Bully" and this is all part of the promotion of it. She's not drugged, she's playing a role. Look at the afterparty photos.

NovemberMorn · 03/02/2025 19:05

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/02/2025 17:27

I don’t think she has, there’s a lot to find fault with. If you’re going to go near enough naked, you’d better be perfect. And she isn’t.
She is pretty close to how one would describe "the perfect body".
She is beautiful.

Of course she is beautiful, she has been modelled that way. I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't paid for her surgery and stipulated exactly how he wanted her to look.
As for him going naked, (as a couple have suggested) that's not the way he is playing this.
He is in control, demeaning her and leading her round like a prized cruft specimen, that's all she is to him.

He is totally vile.

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:07

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/02/2025 17:22

I doubt you measure up against her figure. Still, nice to have a pop at another woman's body, eh?

I’d much rather have my figure than hers actually. But you’ll notice I didn’t specify any faults so not “having a pop”. My point, again, is that if you are going to show your near enough naked body you had better be perfect.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/02/2025 19:11

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:07

I’d much rather have my figure than hers actually. But you’ll notice I didn’t specify any faults so not “having a pop”. My point, again, is that if you are going to show your near enough naked body you had better be perfect.

Well you would say that, wouldn't you? I really don't care. I took issue with your criticism and you did say that 'there's lots to find fault with'.

Try not to say things that you really don't mean.

NovemberMorn · 03/02/2025 19:13

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:07

I’d much rather have my figure than hers actually. But you’ll notice I didn’t specify any faults so not “having a pop”. My point, again, is that if you are going to show your near enough naked body you had better be perfect.

No woman, no matter how perfect (or not) should be demeaning herself like this.
It's totally classless and without dignity.

It has absolutely nothing to do with beauty.

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:14

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/02/2025 19:11

Well you would say that, wouldn't you? I really don't care. I took issue with your criticism and you did say that 'there's lots to find fault with'.

Try not to say things that you really don't mean.

I said what I meant. There is lots to find fault with. Which is why she would have been better properly dressed.

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 19:15

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:07

I’d much rather have my figure than hers actually. But you’ll notice I didn’t specify any faults so not “having a pop”. My point, again, is that if you are going to show your near enough naked body you had better be perfect.

Why does she have to have the "perfect" body to be acceptably naked? What's perfect? If she'd had been been a supermodel in the nude paraded by a narcissistic lunatic, would that have been OK? What an odd statement.

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:16

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 19:15

Why does she have to have the "perfect" body to be acceptably naked? What's perfect? If she'd had been been a supermodel in the nude paraded by a narcissistic lunatic, would that have been OK? What an odd statement.

Different point. We can debate whether it’s a healthy relationship, but my point happened to be about how she presented herself.

NovemberMorn · 03/02/2025 19:17

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:14

I said what I meant. There is lots to find fault with. Which is why she would have been better properly dressed.

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NO WOMAN SHOULD BE PARADED AROUND IN THE NUDE FOR HER 'OWNERS' EGO BOOST.

Do you get it yet?

DerekFaker · 03/02/2025 19:18

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 17:04

I don’t think she has, there’s a lot to find fault with. If you’re going to go near enough naked, you’d better be perfect. And she isn’t.

Oh shut up! Even you don't believe that.
.

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:20

NovemberMorn · 03/02/2025 19:17

NO WOMAN SHOULD BE PARADED AROUND IN THE NUDE FOR HER 'OWNERS' EGO BOOST.

Do you get it yet?

I think you need to calm down. And see my post above.

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 19:21

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:16

Different point. We can debate whether it’s a healthy relationship, but my point happened to be about how she presented herself.

You said she had better be perfect if she is going to be naked. You said she is far from that. Do you not see that's a really weird thing to say? Your main issue is that her naked body isn't acceptably perfect for your viewing, not that she's naked in the first place.

tsmainsqueeze · 03/02/2025 19:24

Purif · 03/02/2025 12:23

based off her earlier designs before Kanye, completely see through nylon stocking “dresses” and porn looking metal dresses that hold you in a certain position. They’re both porn addicted attention seekers and we’re all being made unwilling participants in their kink.

I tend to agree with this , after watching her facial expressions today i suddenly thought that she knows what she's doing and she is acting.
I also think there may be some control issues with him but mainly that they are in this together.
I think about her family , it must be awful seeing your beloved daughter dressed like this ,pretty much the whole world seeing her vagina as well as everything else.
As a feminist i feel slightly uncomfortable slagging of what another woman chooses to wear -in this case what to not wear ! but i think the pair of them have crossed a line ,especially if she really gave him a blowjob on the boat ,they obviously don't give a shit .

Ponderingwindow · 03/02/2025 19:27

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:07

With respect: even for rich people it’s never that simple

I’m speaking from experience myself. Society can offer a lifeline, but ultimately victims have to choose to grab it. It’s unfortunate, but it is reality.