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Bianca Censori needs help

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MidnightPatrol · 03/02/2025 11:19

Bianca Censori went to the Grammys in a see through mesh dress yesterday. Nothing is left to the imagination.

Is it some kind of coercive control? Is she just an exhibitionist?

And - surely inappropriate given he has numerous children who will see this behaviour too.

If this were in any other walk of life, it wouldn’t be allowed, and yet for some reason it’s allowed to play out in public like this.

Is it not just repeated indecent exposure?

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Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:28

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 19:21

You said she had better be perfect if she is going to be naked. You said she is far from that. Do you not see that's a really weird thing to say? Your main issue is that her naked body isn't acceptably perfect for your viewing, not that she's naked in the first place.

I don’t think it’s a weird thing to say, no. And it’s not my main issue. I think there is something seriously wrong with someone who would appear in public like that, whether by choice or coerced. My post was in response to someone who said she had “some body”. I disagreed.

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 19:35

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:28

I don’t think it’s a weird thing to say, no. And it’s not my main issue. I think there is something seriously wrong with someone who would appear in public like that, whether by choice or coerced. My post was in response to someone who said she had “some body”. I disagreed.

It's really weird. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
Your issue, as you say, is how she presents herself. You also say if she's going to be naked, she'd better be perfect and that she's "far" from that. So your issue isn't with the nakedness, it's with her not having a good enough body to be naked. Very Andrew Tate.

ShowHouse · 03/02/2025 19:37

Eye witnesses said he had his back to her when she was pretending to sing and he got jealous with the attention she was getting.
Eye witnesses said it looked like she had to pass it by him when she wanted to do stuff like go to the bathroom

NovemberMorn · 03/02/2025 19:38

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:20

I think you need to calm down. And see my post above.

I am calm.
I thought you may be hard of seeing as well as hard of understanding.

BallerinaFall · 03/02/2025 20:10

Humiliation rituals

Kuretake · 03/02/2025 20:17

Likewhatever · 03/02/2025 19:28

I don’t think it’s a weird thing to say, no. And it’s not my main issue. I think there is something seriously wrong with someone who would appear in public like that, whether by choice or coerced. My post was in response to someone who said she had “some body”. I disagreed.

I'm really interested - who would you say has a great body? What's your ideal?

Moonshine5 · 03/02/2025 20:17

Has every one forgotten the Paper magazine cover? Clue the pictures inside broke the internet

Dontlletmedownbruce · 03/02/2025 20:33

@Dollychopsporkchops says: If anything one could argue that she’s using a man with a vulnerable mental health condition and a long and documented mental health battle…

This is what my take is. He is very rich and very mentally ill. She was nobody until she married him (as far as I'm aware). She is the winner here. The worst of course are the organisers of an awards ceremony who allow this to continue and the press who encourage it. Soon she will have a public divorce and get loads of press attention as a result. And in years to come when money gets tight she'll be writing biographies every 2 years and documenting her plastic surgery, a bit of a Katie Price type.

Lighterlilly · 03/02/2025 20:35

Apparently their friends think it is a shared kink. I suspect that is right.

and I think she’s a great figure, I don’t think this needs to deteriorate into putting her body down, it’s bad enough without that.

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 20:47

JandamiHash · 03/02/2025 18:09

Pretty sure we’d all be saying the same if Kanye was white. And really you’re dismissing how hard it is for women to leave controlling relationships

And it’s controlling how? Did Bianca tell you that? She’s naked, I wouldn’t do it. She obviously will. It’s her choice. Why do you think she’s vulnerable?

DancingLions · 03/02/2025 20:47

I personally feel that you don't have to support every woman's every action, to be a feminist.

In fact to me, being a feminist includes recognising behaviors that's are damaging to women as a whole, even if perpetrated by another woman.

I think there's an element of wanting to believe she's controlled by Kanye to absolve her of "guilt". I see no evidence that is the case. The after party shows her having fun, loving the attention, people filming her etc. Apparently it was Kanye who get fed up and wanted to leave. That "dead behind the eyes" look is just the way she poses in those scenarios (for whatever reason). I don't think she's doing anything she doesn't want to.

She may well be an intelligent, successful architect. But fame can be a powerful drug. Some people just like to shock. Whatever her motivations, I believe they are her motivations and not solely down to him.

OneLilacGuide · 03/02/2025 20:53

Lighterlilly · 03/02/2025 20:35

Apparently their friends think it is a shared kink. I suspect that is right.

and I think she’s a great figure, I don’t think this needs to deteriorate into putting her body down, it’s bad enough without that.

I think it must be something along these lines. I can’t decide is it an exhibitionist kink or a humiliation kink?

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 20:53

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/02/2025 18:42

Or she's a vulnerable woman being abused and controlled by somebody who has documented severe mental illness and could be abusive both 'naturally' and as a manifestation of his particular presentation of illness.

She’s vulnerable…did she tell you that?
We know Kanye is vulnerable as he’s been diagnosed with bipolar and has been sectioned a few times.

I know it’s a wild concept, but some women act like that. Take Bonnie blue for example. Some women believe showing their body or sleeping with multiple men in one go makes them “sexually liberated”. To now say she’s vulnerable…is it because of her lily white skin?

Also your stereotypes about people with mental health issues being violent and abusive is boring, tiresome and olddddd

FoxtonFoxton · 03/02/2025 20:53

Lighterlilly · 03/02/2025 20:35

Apparently their friends think it is a shared kink. I suspect that is right.

and I think she’s a great figure, I don’t think this needs to deteriorate into putting her body down, it’s bad enough without that.

I think that's probably accurate as well.
He's tried it with every partner he's had -Amber Rose, Julia Fox, KK. He likes to be in control, tell them what to wear (or not wear) and encourage public nudity/photoshoots. He seems to have met his match with Bianca. I don't think she is necessarily vulnerable here.

EdithBond · 03/02/2025 20:56

tsmainsqueeze · 03/02/2025 19:24

I tend to agree with this , after watching her facial expressions today i suddenly thought that she knows what she's doing and she is acting.
I also think there may be some control issues with him but mainly that they are in this together.
I think about her family , it must be awful seeing your beloved daughter dressed like this ,pretty much the whole world seeing her vagina as well as everything else.
As a feminist i feel slightly uncomfortable slagging of what another woman chooses to wear -in this case what to not wear ! but i think the pair of them have crossed a line ,especially if she really gave him a blowjob on the boat ,they obviously don't give a shit .

Whatever her motivation, it’s important to view her (lack of) clothing in context.

For some time, red carpet looks on numerous women have become extremely risqué. Translucent dresses with only skimpy underwear beneath, cut-out side panels revealing no underwear beneath, slits up to the armpit, butt cut-outs, ample side-boob, nipple tassels. Alexander McQueen’s butt cleavage ‘bumster’ trousers were in 1993.

On this year’s Grammys red carpet alone, Chrissy Teigen, Victoria Monét, Julia Fox and Willow Smith left very little to the imagination.

Bianca Censori is pushing the boundaries still further. Indeed, to their limit. But it’s not while every other woman’s covered up. It’s part of an on-going and current trend.

Creates an interesting debate about what is or isn’t tolerated or viewed as ‘decent’. For example, can the entire boob be exposed provided the nipples are covered with tassels? Is a translucent dress OK if a tiny triangle of thong gives a suggestion of cover? Who decides what’s acceptable for women to wear? And why’s nakedness shocking or considered sexualised? It’s just a body isn’t it?

IMHO, the most remarkable thing is the clear gender difference in exposing the body. Wouldn’t be tolerated in men. All those women on red carpets are accompanied by men who are completely covered up.

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 21:05

Dontlletmedownbruce · 03/02/2025 20:33

@Dollychopsporkchops says: If anything one could argue that she’s using a man with a vulnerable mental health condition and a long and documented mental health battle…

This is what my take is. He is very rich and very mentally ill. She was nobody until she married him (as far as I'm aware). She is the winner here. The worst of course are the organisers of an awards ceremony who allow this to continue and the press who encourage it. Soon she will have a public divorce and get loads of press attention as a result. And in years to come when money gets tight she'll be writing biographies every 2 years and documenting her plastic surgery, a bit of a Katie Price type.

My issue is the developing narrative of her being “vulnerable”, as if she couldn’t possibly be fully consenting.

They are both off in my opinion and they’re both using each other (imo). The power dynamic is an interesting one. They both have power and it can be argued that there is a power imbalance too - on both sides.

The narrative that she is vulnerable or is the ONLY vulnerable one here is tricky.

eyesontheball · 03/02/2025 21:49

"On this year’s Grammys red carpet alone, Chrissy Teigen, Victoria Monét, Julia Fox and Willow Smith left very little to the imagination."

Yes, I just saw all their photos from the event and thought they were clearly trying to look a bit on the edge/ shocking/ as revealing as can be ... until Bianca basically insulted them all with how much further she went (I expected the mesh dress to be a bit darker or something, the fact the photos are all blurred tells me there was absolutely nothing covered).
I actually hope this is a bit of a wake up call for women celebs, how ridiculous and stupid it is to wear skimpy clothes while men are dressed comfortably head to toe. Wouldn't that be amazing as a consequence of this silly girl's misjudgment...

And yes, if people are not allowed to publish her photos without blurring, she shouldn't have been allowed to take part dressed like that.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/02/2025 22:02

Dollychopsporkchops · 03/02/2025 20:53

She’s vulnerable…did she tell you that?
We know Kanye is vulnerable as he’s been diagnosed with bipolar and has been sectioned a few times.

I know it’s a wild concept, but some women act like that. Take Bonnie blue for example. Some women believe showing their body or sleeping with multiple men in one go makes them “sexually liberated”. To now say she’s vulnerable…is it because of her lily white skin?

Also your stereotypes about people with mental health issues being violent and abusive is boring, tiresome and olddddd

Abusive people can have mental illnesses. too. They're not all innocent victims of circumstance, helpless at the hands of others.

Add in a potential exacerbation of a mental illness and it's very possible for abuse to escalate.

I certainly knew all about it when my mother's mental health worsened as a kid - it would go from common or garden abuse that was easily concealed (a punch to the side or back of the head doesn't show bruising, for example) to being kicked, stamped on or attacked with assorted household implements and being threatened with permanent facial scarring. Especially when she wasn't sleeping more than a couple of hours a night if at all - that led to explosive entries into my room at 3am and smashing up the room around me because she knew I was secretly awake and planning to say something to my teachers about her in the morning.

FWIW, as she is so similar facially to his previous wife, I would have assumed that she was likely to have been of mixed heritage - had I given them any thought beyond 'She looks a lot like Kanye West's ex wife' when I glanced at the photo and then read the comments on the thread about her appearance.

SayyestotheDog · 03/02/2025 22:05

Just read in the Daily Fail that this stunt's cost Kanye 20 million in lost gigs in Japan who have pulled the plug after this! Pleased to see the pushback on it.

ObsidianTree · 03/02/2025 22:14

I think she should be arrested. If a man did that it would be indecent exposure, why not the same for a woman? Then maybe she might be able to get help. Perhaps it's what she needs

Yalta · 03/02/2025 22:40

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 03/02/2025 15:41

Is 30 'old' for a model? Confused

I guess it would be for Leonardo DiCaprio! 😆

Agree about talented women not having to dress naked/near naked, as they don't need to grab attention, they already have it.

She’s only 30!!!!!

I thought she was definitely late 30s.

I would say 30 is a bit old for some types of modelling. Especially one who isn’t a household name for modelling and not because she is someone’s wife with a predilection for taking her clothes off in inappropriate places

k1233 · 03/02/2025 22:41

Not sure if this video has been linked above or not. I saw it last night and felt very uncomfortable for her as she seemed reluctant, shaking her head etc you don't see it in the videos taken from the other side

https://www.instagram.com/blacvolta/reel/DFnpU4ePW-z/?hl=en

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/blacvolta/reel/DFnpU4ePW-z?hl=en

ThePolarBearWhoLostHisCrown · 03/02/2025 23:58

k1233 · 03/02/2025 22:41

Not sure if this video has been linked above or not. I saw it last night and felt very uncomfortable for her as she seemed reluctant, shaking her head etc you don't see it in the videos taken from the other side

https://www.instagram.com/blacvolta/reel/DFnpU4ePW-z/?hl=en

Is that part of the performance though? She dressed like that beforehand and willingly travelled there before dropping her coat on the red carpet. She surely knew what she was doing?

CheekyPombear · 04/02/2025 01:14

Why should Bianca be arrested?. It is him who should be arrested.
He is a barsteward.

There is enough evidence to jail him.
Why are Bianca's family or friends doing nothing?.
When they finally part ways god I hope so for Bianca's sake she will need much help for mental trauma.

CheekyPombear · 04/02/2025 01:15

ThePolarBearWhoLostHisCrown · 03/02/2025 23:58

Is that part of the performance though? She dressed like that beforehand and willingly travelled there before dropping her coat on the red carpet. She surely knew what she was doing?

I hope you never find yourself in the grip of a controlling narcissist.