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Katie298 · 23/09/2024 08:15

She’s shagging a load of teenagers and all you can trot out is ‘ooh misogyny about her appearance’. You’re all well trained!

CeruleanBelt · 23/09/2024 09:08

Pointing out that a woman looks more like 35 than 25 is only misogyny if you believe younger women are better than older women.

Otherwise, it's merely an observation.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 23/09/2024 10:13

CeruleanBelt · 23/09/2024 09:08

Pointing out that a woman looks more like 35 than 25 is only misogyny if you believe younger women are better than older women.

Otherwise, it's merely an observation.

You['re being disingenuous now and your post is just silly. Women value looking younger than they are, it's been this way for an awfully long time now and beauty companies and salons are well geared up for it. They don't make much difference but still, that's the ploy and women buy into it.

This has almost nothing to do with her appearance either. As so many posters have jumped in with 'imagine if the sexes were reversed...', a man's appearance would never be criticised in the same way. Never.

She's certainly stirred up a lot of fear in the women-folk as not only is she after the sons, the husbands are welcome too. That's where all the snark is coming from, she's outright telling women that she can have your sons and your husbands and for some, that's going to happen.

poppyzbrite4 · 23/09/2024 10:16

CeruleanBelt · 23/09/2024 09:08

Pointing out that a woman looks more like 35 than 25 is only misogyny if you believe younger women are better than older women.

Otherwise, it's merely an observation.

Why are people making comments on her looks at all?

Golden407 · 23/09/2024 11:39

FasterMichelin · 21/09/2024 23:37

Well, yes. She's presumably going to make a shit load of money from the videos and won't need to pay the participants. It's good business sense. That doesn't mean I agree or advocate for the business.

Brilliant, she could start up a sideline selling narcotics to the young men she's nobbing. It's a win win!!

I always thought of business acumen as starting a business with the potential for long term stability and some form of ethical trading etc etc. Clearly I've got it all wrong 🙄

Devilsadvocat · 23/09/2024 11:53

Perhaps she is 25 but all the sex has aged her.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/09/2024 12:04

poppyzbrite4 · 23/09/2024 10:16

Why are people making comments on her looks at all?

Her age is relevant to the fact that her targets are 18 year olds.

poppyzbrite4 · 23/09/2024 12:06

ScrollingLeaves · 23/09/2024 12:04

Her age is relevant to the fact that her targets are 18 year olds.

As far as we know she's 25. No one has seen her birth certificate so speculations on her age, are just that. People are just being spiteful so let's not pretend otherwise.

5128gap · 23/09/2024 12:25

CeruleanBelt · 23/09/2024 09:08

Pointing out that a woman looks more like 35 than 25 is only misogyny if you believe younger women are better than older women.

Otherwise, it's merely an observation.

Hardly an 'observation' to say she doesn't look far off 60 though. That's the misogyny. Woman does something wrong. Punish woman for it by attacking her. Go to form of attack against women=their looks. Go to way to attack a woman's looks = call her old. The linking of female bad behaviour with lack of physical attractiveness, and linking a lack of physical attractiveness with age are mysogynist clichés as old as time.

5128gap · 23/09/2024 12:36

Katie298 · 23/09/2024 08:15

She’s shagging a load of teenagers and all you can trot out is ‘ooh misogyny about her appearance’. You’re all well trained!

You know those half wit types of men who when women upset them, by taking their parking space or something, they turn round and shout "you fat cow" or "you ugly bitch"? Regardless of what the woman looks like even, because their tiny minds default to "woman annoyed me, best call her ugly"? Well that's what some of you on here sound like. It's perfectly possible to have a discussion where this woman's behaviour is criticised without mentioning her looks. But some of you just can't seem to resist the urge to default back to the playground.. In all truth, I'd say that's your training kicking in, and you seem to lack the wit to rise above it.

BlackShuck3 · 23/09/2024 12:56

@5128gap
I agree, the ridiculous knee jerk insults are laughable, the woman in question may well have knocked ten years off of her age but she is slim youthful and attractive.
(I'm not saying I agree with what she's doing, I find it distasteful and it makes me feel uncomfortable)

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 23/09/2024 14:00

Brilliant points, 5182gap, that is exactly what's happening here.

All these face creams marketed at women, I've yet to see one suggesting that if you use this one it will add years to you, overnight. Oddly enough there wouldn't be any call for it, not at all.

Namerchangee · 23/09/2024 14:09

The Nottingham Post have picked the thread up - www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/mumsnet-users-say-its-grim-9572950

OP posts:
Pobblenotoes · 23/09/2024 14:19

Both posts are basically promoting her, in a time when hate crimes against women are surging, and there was an article in the press over the weekend about 14 year olds reporting the most rapes. What this does is objectify women again and normalise porn and communicate that it's fine for fathers, brothers, husbands, sons to have sex with a porn star, and that everyone is OK with this. If my daughter was starting Uni in Nottingham this week, I'd be driving up to get her and make her take up her second choice. I would not feel she was in a safe environment for a young woman. If I had a son starting Uni, I'd give him a good talking to about respecting women and women's bodies and choices and make it clear that porn is not a representation of normal healthy relationships and healthy consenting adult sex. I think this is abhorrent, and I would encourage everyone to complain to nottingham evening post about it, get it taken down, and ask them to stop advertising porn.

DerekFaker · 23/09/2024 14:22

oakleaffy · 21/09/2024 22:07

Lol yeah right...if you say so, love.

Cattery · 23/09/2024 14:30

🤮

lindyloo57 · 23/09/2024 18:39

This is so wrong, imagine if a bloke was asking to sleep with girls would it be ok ? no, he would be arrested as she should be.

MintyNew · 23/09/2024 18:42

Disgusting, if I was her mother I would disown her. Seriously. She's 25 and that's what she ended up as. So sad.

ManyATrueWord · 23/09/2024 18:55

shakes head People who think paying for sex and porn are just fine are going to think this is okay. Personally it makes me feel unwell.

5128gap · 23/09/2024 18:59

lindyloo57 · 23/09/2024 18:39

This is so wrong, imagine if a bloke was asking to sleep with girls would it be ok ? no, he would be arrested as she should be.

They're arresting men for asking to sleep with young girls now? Blimey. No wonder the prisons are full.

lindyloo57 · 23/09/2024 19:04

@5128gap ha ha you know what I mean, averting for lots of young woman to sleep with him while he record it.

KarenandFour · 23/09/2024 19:04

It’s pretty yuck! It’s the queuing bit that got me lol sloppy 30ths lol

Alucard55 · 23/09/2024 19:11

lindyloo57 · 23/09/2024 19:04

@5128gap ha ha you know what I mean, averting for lots of young woman to sleep with him while he record it.

But nobody is being forced into participating. These men could just not turn up.

ObieJoyful · 23/09/2024 19:17

Queuing up??

So they’d be one after the other?

Hope she’s got plenty of Canesten in.

And condoms.

🤢

FasterMichelin · 23/09/2024 19:52

Golden407 · 23/09/2024 11:39

Brilliant, she could start up a sideline selling narcotics to the young men she's nobbing. It's a win win!!

I always thought of business acumen as starting a business with the potential for long term stability and some form of ethical trading etc etc. Clearly I've got it all wrong 🙄

Why are you being snarky?

Being ethical has nothing to do with business acumen. Not does it have to be a business you endorse. She's probably making a shit ton of money which I'm guessing is her intention, so yes, she's done well to fulfil her own goals. It's literally nothing to do with what you like or agree with.