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CF Neigbour Using Hot Tub

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grandmabrown · 22/07/2024 17:10

Summer 2022 we suspect someone was using our garden while we were out as things began to move and on occasions the hot tub appeared used. We didn't think too much of it to be honest, with teenage children (who denied using it) things do often move and we were busy so didnt give it too much thought. Looking back now though that is when things started happening. Earlier in 2024 we went away and, upon return, a friend commented that she had popped round on her way past, nobody answered the door, she heard noises in the back garden and had come in through the side gate. There greeted by a family, using our hot tub and garden, who told her we had gone to X location and would be back on X date (both details correct), they were watching the house for us. When we got back we were baffled, asked around, nobody knew anything. We are part of a neighbourhood watch whatsapp group. We all keep an eye on each others cars and houses when away and update one another if we see anyone acting strange hanging round or any crime. We asked on this group and nobody had seen anything but one of the group members helped my husband to install security cameras and a ring doorbell and nothing has happened since.

Fast forward to now, my street-neighbour, lets call her Helen (as this is her name), and I have always been on a smile and wave basis. I only know her families names from the Christmas cards we send/receive. Recently Helen has been acting off towards me and I appear to be annoying her by existing. She will sigh if she sees me and I have caught her on more than one occasion glaring across at me and pointing at my house while talking. I have become sick of this and asked another neighbour, who I am friendly with, what was going on. Neutral neighbour seemed very awkward and said she didn't want to stir the pot or tell tales. Eventually she said Helen was annoyed at me as I had promised her use of my garden and hot tub for her sons birthday/end of term party but had revoked it and "caused a scene" about intruders, which she know was aimed at her, on the neighbourhood Whatsapp. Apparently the party was due to be when we are on holiday and I had said if she kept an eye on the house they could have full run of the garden but changed my mind, leaving her son with nowhere to host and all his friends thinking the party is going ahead. Helen said we have had this arrangement before and she does not understand why I am changing it now. This is not true. At all. I have never had a conversation with her, let alone offered to host a party for her. I checked with DH & DC and nobody has spoken to them or said they can use our property to host.

I have a million questions for her but don't know where to start. Obviously I now believe they were the family using our garden and it explains how she knew locations and return dates of our holidays. I do not know how to approach this or what to ask. Surely they will deny it. But the outright lie she has told our neighbour is harder to deny. What do I do? There is no way they are using my garden but now I am also worried that, when we go away, our garden may be used. The cameras will alert us on our phones and we can ring the police but I would really rather not cause a neighbour dispute and end up down that route. I am absolutely baffled by the audacity that someone would do this and then be mad about it, without ever even having a conversation with me.

OP posts:
Thedayb4youcame · 22/07/2024 20:41

So is this what the AI posts look like?

Thedayb4youcame · 22/07/2024 20:42

Rosscameasdoody · 22/07/2024 19:47

What makes you say that ?

Just look how it's written.

crockofshite · 22/07/2024 20:45

DragonGypsyDoris · 22/07/2024 18:16

Leave a turd floating in the hot tub.

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Elle7 · 22/07/2024 20:48

AI Helen has killed off AI @grandmabrown i suspect. No word from the OP makes me pretty suspicious that this post might be not quite as it seems?

MapleCreemee · 22/07/2024 20:50

Is she a CF or a raging narcissist? Are they the same thing, now that I think of it...?🤨🤔

DontBiteTheCat · 22/07/2024 20:52

4 hours, ten pages and the OP hasn’t been back.

I think we’ve been had.

DidYerAye · 22/07/2024 20:52

Elle7 · 22/07/2024 20:48

AI Helen has killed off AI @grandmabrown i suspect. No word from the OP makes me pretty suspicious that this post might be not quite as it seems?

'ChatGPT write me a Mumsnet classic OP including the words hot tub, neighbour, holidays, neighbourhood watch, and teenagers, but don't include paragraphs'.

Floofydawg · 22/07/2024 20:55

I said 5 pages back that it was a wind up.

Thedayb4youcame · 22/07/2024 20:56

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whosthefoolnow · 22/07/2024 20:57

This has just reminded me of the allotment thread.

Thedayb4youcame · 22/07/2024 21:02

whosthefoolnow · 22/07/2024 20:57

This has just reminded me of the allotment thread.

I cannot understand how anyone believed anything on those threads. Nothing added up on that from the outset.

liveforsummer · 22/07/2024 21:02

whosthefoolnow · 22/07/2024 20:57

This has just reminded me of the allotment thread.

Tbf the allotment had been lovingly cultivated for years by the neighbour. They hadn't just snuck in and claimed it while on holiday! How did that end btw? Was there not one with a garage though where neighbours had done something really cheeky during a house sale? I wonder how they all turned out in the end 😆

StaunchMomma · 22/07/2024 21:03

Agree that the neighbourhood whatsapp group is your friend, here.

'It as come to our attention that a neighbour has been telling others in our area that they were given permission to use our garden and hot tub and that we have 'unreasonably' removed this permission. We would like it to be known by all that we have never had such an agreement with anyone, nor have we had any form of discussion about it. Going forward, we would like to make it clear that our insurance does not cover incidents on our property in our absence, hence we do not give permission for anyone to use it. Any activity caught on security cameras will be reported to the Police.'

Elle7 · 22/07/2024 21:03

I’ve just had a little play around on ChatCPT and it’s bloody amazing what stories it can come up with! All with paragraphs mind. What’s the deal with no paragraphs?

Pity really! Although there are CF neighbours like this, it did seem far fetched and with the lack of any replies from @grandmabrown whatsoever it absolutely does seem like this isn’t as it seems!

PreciousMahoney · 22/07/2024 21:04

Hmmmmmm

3/10

Too many details matching the pool thief neighbour story only not as good

Clarinetiu · 22/07/2024 21:06

Hot tub lock or water drain

Whatstheworstthatcanhappen354 · 22/07/2024 21:11

Agree with all - also shamelessly placemarking. I have to know what happens!

Oldfatandfrumpy · 22/07/2024 21:13

I would put in the WhatsApp that you are disturbed that people have been trespassing while you have not been there and have installed cameras in the garden. I would also say that for the avoidance of doubt you have never and will never give anyone permission to use your garden or hot tub while you are away. If anybody sees or hears anything in the garden while you are away please contact the police (if anything changes you will let the group know personally)

Fuck Helen and her sense of entitlement

usersuserse · 22/07/2024 21:15

so I read the story linked above

https://lolitopia.com/2024/07/20/i-discovered-my-neighbors-had-been-covertly-using-my-hot-tub-for-a-year-i-gave-them-a-memorable-lesson/

and then because I have idle curiosity I googled for skin dye for a hot tub to see if anything was vaguely true about this and came across this thread which is even weirder than this thread to which I see @grandmabrown has not returned - presumably having a knees up with her mother.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bodymods/comments/16ub5sp/semipermanent_skin_dye/?rdt=61797

the weirdest bit of the post is "Eventually she’d like to be blue forever" - which is a whole weird world of fetishes I never knew existed.

DontBiteTheCat · 22/07/2024 21:16

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….huh? I didn’t understand much of your post, but I was speaking for myself.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 21:18

OP post on the WhatsApp group your cameras aren't working and you can't get anyone out until Monday but you're away for the weekend so would people mind keeping an eye out.

Move your car a few streets away, and lie low, wait for CFs to descend on your garden , fully in the hot tub and go out there.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 22/07/2024 21:22

I love this story so much! It'll be a shame if it's not true. Reminds me of the Mexican house thief thread, but a home-grown version.

Thedayb4youcame · 22/07/2024 21:26

DontBiteTheCat · 22/07/2024 21:16

….huh? I didn’t understand much of your post, but I was speaking for myself.

I know you were, which is why I "thanked" your post - go check your notifications.

To clarify the remainder, a genuine MN post would have way too much irrelevant detail, would feature the word "cringe", and would have plenty of question marks where none are needed - all were missing from the OP.

LlynTegid · 22/07/2024 21:30

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Elderflower14 · 22/07/2024 21:34

Following!!