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To be furious at husband for secretly vaping while Ttc

109 replies

mmmkayyyy · 01/06/2024 17:48

Posting here because of anonymity. My husband and I have been trying to conceive for over a year, I have two children already from previous relationship and he has none. He used to be a smoker but quit last year when we decided we wanted a baby. Today I found empty vape items in his bag. I'm so upset as I feel like I've been carrying the burden of this going on for so long and no baby (except one miscarriage last year). He said he's been doing it when he's stressed but he will switch to nicotine gum. I feel violated as I didn't consent to having chemical-laden semen in my body while TTC. I've told him im not having sex with him anymore. Aibu?

OP posts:
PonyPatter44 · 01/06/2024 17:49

Are you quite well? Chemical-laden semen?

Soubriquet · 01/06/2024 17:50

Urm…yabu

i don’t smoke. I don’t vape, but you can’t judge what your husband does

Bs0u416d · 01/06/2024 17:50

If he ate marmite, would you then have marmite laden semen in you instead? For example.

SlashBeef · 01/06/2024 17:51

Wtf 😅

WitchyBits · 01/06/2024 17:51

Chemical laden semen 😂😂😂😂

SlashBeef · 01/06/2024 17:52

Won't the sperm still be chemical laden, by your standards, if he uses nicotine gum 😂

Cheeesus · 01/06/2024 17:53

Maybe PPs aren’t ttc and aren’t aware of the messaging to not vape when ttc.

https://mft.nhs.uk/app/uploads/2023/12/SMPIL-23-016-Vaping.pdf

https://mft.nhs.uk/app/uploads/2023/12/SMPIL-23-016-Vaping.pdf

toothhurty22 · 01/06/2024 17:54

Oh dear this has to be a wind up.
Chemical laden semen Grin
I dread to think what I'm laden with...

mmmkayyyy · 01/06/2024 17:54

Cheeesus · 01/06/2024 17:53

Maybe PPs aren’t ttc and aren’t aware of the messaging to not vape when ttc.

https://mft.nhs.uk/app/uploads/2023/12/SMPIL-23-016-Vaping.pdf

Thank you. The information I obtained was that it contributes to issues with implantation and also birth defects which is why I'm so upset.

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PossumintheHouse · 01/06/2024 17:54

Chemical-laden semen? 🤔
Oh well, problem solved if you're not having sex anymore.

Boomer55 · 01/06/2024 17:57

Decades ago, people were bashing out kids willy-nilly.

Most people smoked years ago.🙄

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 17:58

There are issues around a. Having an addictive personality, and b. Being dishonest/sneaky, here.

Neither of them are fantastic traits for having babies with someone.

It sounds like you're under P to conceive because he has no kids of his own. Might it be a better fit to meet a man who's already got his own kids, like you (?)

How old are you, do you really want to go through the baby etc stage again now?

How old are your kids?

Do they already have half siblings through their Dad?

How long have you been married and how long before that have your kids known him? It's not often in the best interests of kids to have new half siblings ..... I'll be flamed but ..

Kelly51 · 01/06/2024 18:04

I feel violated as I didn't consent to having chemical-laden semen in my body while TTC. I've told him im not having sex with him anymore.
That's enough internet for today, jesus bloody wept.

ginasevern · 01/06/2024 18:06

Stop being so dramatic OP. Chemical laden semen for god's sake. He's taking a sneeky puff now and then, not mainlining heroin. Out of interest, does he actually want to have a baby?

LiterallyOnFire · 01/06/2024 18:08

SlashBeef · 01/06/2024 17:52

Won't the sperm still be chemical laden, by your standards, if he uses nicotine gum 😂

And was previously when he smoked.

Lack of consent for "chemical laden semen" is a weird flex.

IDK why OP didn't just stick to irritation that he has compromised his speak quality.

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 18:09

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nearly-2000-chemicals-some-potentially-harmfulfound-in-vaping-aerosols-180978872/

Everyone's acting like the op is cray, but is she?

You don't agree to give you smoking to tttc and then vape, which has lots of potential issues that are being highlighted and haven't been investigated or studied yet; and lie about it to the person you're TTC with.

Ateotd issues with pregnancy and with babies once they arrive; tend to fall on the shoulders of the Mum more than the Dad.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins University analyzed popular vaping products and found nearly 2,000 chemicals not disclosed by manufacturers, as well as six potentially harmful compounds, including a pesticide.

Nearly 2,000 Chemicals—Some Potentially Harmful—Found in Vaping Aerosols

Researchers discover industrial chemicals, a pesticide and caffeine during analysis of popular vaping products

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nearly-2000-chemicals-some-potentially-harmfulfound-in-vaping-aerosols-180978872

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 18:11

*And was previously when he smoked.

Lack of consent for "chemical laden semen" is a weird flex.*

The flex is that she wasn't TTC with him then.

She's also now probably wondering if the miscarriage she suffered (and let's face it, she suffered it, not so much him) could have been in any way affected by the vaping; which kept from her. Maybe not, but from the link above, nhs trusts are clearly asking couples ttc and having fertility treatment not to vape.

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 18:12

Boomer55 · 01/06/2024 17:57

Decades ago, people were bashing out kids willy-nilly.

Most people smoked years ago.🙄

And there were some disastrous implications.

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 01/06/2024 18:16

Soubriquet · 01/06/2024 17:50

Urm…yabu

i don’t smoke. I don’t vape, but you can’t judge what your husband does

Ofcourse she can judge what her husband does. She can judge what anybody does.

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 18:21

SlashBeef · 01/06/2024 17:52

Won't the sperm still be chemical laden, by your standards, if he uses nicotine gum 😂

Apparently nicotine gum only has the nicotine, not the chemicals and is therefore considered ok.

Justcallmebebes · 01/06/2024 18:24

Boomer55 · 01/06/2024 17:57

Decades ago, people were bashing out kids willy-nilly.

Most people smoked years ago.🙄

This, along with alcohol it's an absolute mystery how the human race has survived. YABVU

mmmkayyyy · 01/06/2024 18:24

DotDashDot24 · 01/06/2024 18:11

*And was previously when he smoked.

Lack of consent for "chemical laden semen" is a weird flex.*

The flex is that she wasn't TTC with him then.

She's also now probably wondering if the miscarriage she suffered (and let's face it, she suffered it, not so much him) could have been in any way affected by the vaping; which kept from her. Maybe not, but from the link above, nhs trusts are clearly asking couples ttc and having fertility treatment not to vape.

Edited

Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. I just feel like he's been sabotaging me behind my back with this, I thought it was common knowledge how important a healthy lifestyle is when TTC especially with dramatically falling fertility rates.

OP posts:
Cammac · 01/06/2024 18:26

Kelly51 · 01/06/2024 18:04

I feel violated as I didn't consent to having chemical-laden semen in my body while TTC. I've told him im not having sex with him anymore.
That's enough internet for today, jesus bloody wept.

Quite! 😂

mmmkayyyy · 01/06/2024 18:27

I suppose I was open to a bashing though. I remember I had to re-home a cat years ago because of a postpartum panic disorder and I got flamed on here lol

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mum11970 · 01/06/2024 18:28

Dear God, people never cease to surprise me with the twaddle they come up with these days 🤦‍♀️